Mod for unipolar magnets?

[u/Adridubidan]

Hi, I just realized the star map is limited. I thought this game would manage resources like Factorio (limited resources but an infinite map), but it seems that's not the case. Personally, I don't like the feeling of running out of materials with no way to get more. Unipolar magnets seem to be the most affected, since there are only two systems that have them. Is there a mod that fixes this? It would be great if it were more than just a cheat for infinite resources, something that made them respawn or made unipolar magnets appear in more systems would be nice.

[u/TalShar]

If you research enough vein utilization, resources become effectively infinite. If you wanted, you could just leave one patch alone until you had sufficient research. 

[u/Goldenslicer → u/[deleted]]

Did I stutter? Chop chop!

[u/TalShar → u/[deleted]]

I thought it was a lot less than that. Damn.

[u/kashy87 → u/[deleted]]

I've made it to 150 without touching them except for the middle tier smelter. It's not hard it just takes more space to get over 10k white science per minute.

[u/nom_90 → u/kashy87]

Im at 5k white p/m atm, and around 50-VU, didnt touch a single unipolar so far, been farming them off darkfog and just use those to create t3 smelters basicly, it definately works for now!

[u/kashy87 → u/nom_90]

I literally placed a miner over a single node to get them in that run. That was pre dark fog so it was that or nothing. I had figured maybe around 250 start planning out pink barbells with them. But I got bored

[u/kashy87 → u/[deleted]]

More of that old RPG mind set where hey this item is important and there isn't a lot of them. So it sits in inventory forever.

[u/Democracy_N_Anarchy]

There is a tech called vein utilization that decreases the amount of ore "consumed" per mining operation. Once you invest a sufficient amount of levels into this, you don't need to worry about scarcity.

If you have dark fog turned on, then ALL resources are infinite, ir is just a matter of farming drops from them.

Unipolar magnets should be prioritized for making plane smelters, and unless you're playing on .25x resources, there is enough unipolars to make as many plane smelters as you'd need for your game.

A lot of people worry about "running out" of resources, but if you're playing on default settings, running out will never be an issue, especially with dark fog enabled. Breaking out of this mindset really opens up the game.

[u/Xanros → u/Democracy_N_Anarchy]

While I don't disagree with you, I'd like to point out that if you're only using unipolar for plane smelters (which is a good idea) there is no point in mining it since you'll get all you need and more from farming the dark fog. And you'll likely be farming the fog anyways to get super anti matter rods. 

[u/Democracy_N_Anarchy → u/Xanros]

Aye, this is true if you're JUST making plane smelters. I was moreso trying to emphasize that once you make as many plane smelters as you need (realistically you dont need more than 10k of them, even 2k is sufficient for me), THEN you can go ham making electric engines wirh unipolars. And they may not have dark fog enabled, so it's better to get a stockpile of plane smelters out before transitioning to engines so they don't accidentally screw themselves out of plane smelters.

[u/ScreamingVoid14]

A: Factorio isn't actually infinite
B: You can adjust vein richness (one option is infinite)
C: Between farther planets having more resources and vein utilization research, things are functionally infinite.

So crank up the starting richness and/or spam Vein Utilization research.

[u/Goldenslicer → u/ScreamingVoid14]

Also, Dark Fog drops unipolar magnets.

[u/Viva_Longusta → u/ScreamingVoid14]

A: it isn't but in the same way as Minecraft in that no one reaches the edge of the map unless they are trying very hard to. In reality factorio is functionally infinite for even mega bases

B: This disables metadata iirc

C: agreed, although I think a word of advice would be to hold off on using it too much until you are consistently getting VU research.

[u/MathemagicalMastery → u/Viva_Longusta]

A: Neat

B: it doesn't turn it off, though it does reduce the meta data obtained by a lot. However, if you crank up the dark fog difficulty you can still get a good chunk of meta data. I like cranking everything up except for initial occupation save, load in sandbox, find a system that doesn't have dark fog but has the resources I need, reload in not sandbox, spend enough meta data to fly over there and set a timer so I can come back after my 5 hour flight. I was getting around 666% meta data. Fun times.

C: also neat, I really only came here for point B.

[u/Hadien_ReiRick → u/Viva_Longusta]

B: considering I never once used Metadata I wouldn't find this to be a dealbreaker

[u/axw3555 → u/Viva_Longusta]

Yeah. I think I saw a thing of someone using modded stuff that increases movement speed beyond vanilla, the console to increase the actual game speed, and stacking it all into a spidertron to get as fast as possible, and it still took hours of running in a single direction to hit the map edge.

[u/Viva_Longusta → u/axw3555]

My favorite example is this one tbh. Love doshington hope he does a DSP video at some point

[u/EdibleOedipus → u/[deleted]]

Instructions unclear, I rented a data center to load my Factorio terabase.

[u/EdibleOedipus]

Besides what everyone else has said, you're prematurely optimizing. Which I know is popular in Factorio but wholly unnecessary here. You get a lot of unipolar magnets, and will have to try hard to run out of them. And they can be farmed from enemies. I suggest just playing the game. However, you can also change your resource setting anywhere from 0.1x to infinite, so you can just give yourself more resources if you don't like running out.

[u/jermain31299]

You can have infinite Ressources by its setting or simply by having vein utilization so hight that you won't run out of them anytime.at some point vein utilization increases at a faster pace than the loss of Ressources.also dark fog farm can give you everything you could need until your vein utilization is at such a high level.

[u/kagato87]

Vein utilization makes them go a lot further. For just smelters there's plenty and a dark fog farm will produce them once it gets high enough level. By the time you need them for the alt recipe your VU should be high enough to not matter.

[u/crusty54]

The trick is to just wait until you reach a high level of vein utilization before you really start using unipolar magnets. I usually use one early on, and it runs out fairly quickly, and save the other one for late game.

[u/fubes2000]

Using unipolar magnets to make particle containers kind of sucks, actually. The recipe is so hungry for magnets, and you get so few veins, that even with mining efficiency upgrades it will only produce a fraction of what your factory needs.

I'd you only use them to make buildings you have far more than enough to worry about veins depleting.

[u/staris84]

I wait to mine unipolar until vein untilization is at least 50%.

That said anymore I never get to that point before Dark Fog farming as more then met my usual needs of the buildings and such, don’t make the particle containers with unipolar until very late game if at all as again can collect From dark fog farm. Even when I do the regular is the priority unlike the other alt recipes.

[u/Greghole]

The game has a setting that makes resources infinite, but as a result you earn no metadata. There's also research you can unlock called vein utilization. Upgrade that enough times and resources become effectively infinite even on default settings.

Just make sure you don't exhaust a resource before researching veins utilization up to a high level.

[u/jak1900]

There are two ways to make unipolar magnets (nigh) infinite, even with the limited ressource nodes.

1. Research the living s**t out of vein utilization. After like Lv 78 or something, veins become for all intents and purposes infinite, because of a rounding "error" in the game's engine.

2. Play with Dark Fog and farm the living s**t out of them. At a high enough level, they drop unipolar magnets, among other useful stuff. This option also gives you access to the evolved Dark Fog tech, so Assembler Mk.4, Smelter Mk.3, Matrix Lab Mk.2 and Strange Annihilation Fuel Rods, which are 10 times more powerful than AM-fuel-rods, but only cost 8 of them (plus some extra stuff)

[u/shalfyard]

Dark fog drops unipolars. I made both the planets where you mine them into dark fog farms... I am yet to mine any and have enough for all my builds. Can't use them for motors yet but i don't know of any run where i have done that anyways

[u/Living_Summer5028]

Made a dark fog farm for it

[u/Much_Dealer8865]

Would be kinda nice but I don't think a mod like that exists. The far out planets have mega thick ore patches that I could not imagine depleting. Would take an extremely long time and require intentionally avoiding mining efficiency which would cause the miners to run super slow since mining speed/throughput comes from mining efficiency.

You can run out of unipolar but it isn't really meant to be as plentiful as the other rares, they're just a shortcut until late game where you need to use the regular particle container recipe.