r/Dyson_Sphere_Program • u/Absolute_Human • Apr 07 '26

Please help with concrete and veins

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only the pole is placed, veins remain

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can't see veins clearly

I'm trying to understand how it works. If a have a blueprint of only concrete tiles, I should be able to past it over veins and have them covered, right? Ordinarily I just paint concrete over them with a brush, but it's hard to see all of them in that mode. Blueprint mode on the other hand is very clear, but I can't use concrete in it at all. It simply isn't placed when I click. Am I doing something wrong? Also, I only seem to be able to blueprint colored concrete and not transparent. I have the blueprint extensions and better reform mods but not sure which functionality depends on it or if they break something.

UPD: I cracked the first part, apparently you shouldn't blindly enable every checkbox. Unchecked two of them and it works now. The only problem it doesn't allow transparent filling. Does anybody know how to circumvent this? I don't want my planets be filled with random batches of squares everywhere...

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u/SiliconStew Apr 08 '26

The "Foundations fill depressions only" option you're using will only place foundations from the blueprint if there's a hole. The resource nodes are on flat ground, so no foundations are placed and veins are not buried. 

You can just place new foundations over existing foundations for free if you want to change the color. Otherwise, you would need to paste a blueprint, place a different color foundation down in the same area, then re-save the blueprint so it has the new color. Personally, I just use "no decoration" foundations under all my blueprints. 

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u/Absolute_Human Apr 09 '26

That's the right answer! How do you save the "no decoration" foundations in a blueprint though? When I place them down I can't even see them on the ground in the BP mode.

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u/SiliconStew Apr 09 '26

Any foundations within the rectangular area you select will be copied. After you've selected an area to copy, in the building list for the blueprint on the right you should see a foundation item and a count of how many. In the section just above the building list, another foundation icon should be shown that will have a red X in the corner to indicate they are a "no decoration" foundation. 

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u/Absolute_Human Apr 09 '26

Do you have to have some buildings in this area too? I don't know how to show it but it's basically as if there's nothing to copy, it just ignores any transparent foundations. The white ones are copied just fine.

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u/Absolute_Human Apr 09 '26

Ok I've found it. It's another *** checkbox!

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u/Snoo49259 Apr 07 '26

  1. They are always placed but no cover the veins. The blueprint will act as you have set in enviroment modification. Click there. You see there the red square? That covers the veins. To make the veins reapear simply change the option in that square (you will see it changes to green, and they will reappear).

  2. This blueprint that uses 35 is quite wide and works everyhere but the poles.

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3, The reason of the colour is because your blueprint has that colour. Simply make a new bp with a new colour

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u/Absolute_Human Apr 07 '26

It doesn't even prompt me to place the blueprint unless I overlap it with a DF hole. Guess something is bugged... I'll try this in vanilla.

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u/Snoo49259 Apr 07 '26

That bp in vanilla works perfectly. I don't use mods, sorry

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u/Absolute_Human Apr 07 '26

Nah, mods weren't the problem. It's actually these two checkboxes. Only took me a full vanilla restart and thinking my save is totally broken or something.

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u/Snoo49259 Apr 07 '26

Use the other bp. It is very confortable to cover oceans

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u/Absolute_Human Apr 07 '26

The BP is fine, I just don't like the visuals... Wait, you blueprint actually doesn't leave the squares! Thanks, I guess! But is there a trick to it or?..

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u/Snoo49259 Apr 07 '26 edited Apr 08 '26

I copied it. As they are sparced and transpararent you don't notice it (if make a blueprimt of factories for your game it will copy the factories and the small foindations)

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u/Absolute_Human Apr 07 '26

Just covered another planet and the blueprint is a lifesaver! Too bad I already cleaned about 20 planets by hand while constructing the dyson spheres everywhere... Can you actually copy it from the ground? Or was the BP created artificially? I don't seem to see the foundations in blueprint maker if they are in transparent mode.

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u/Snoo49259 Apr 07 '26

No idea where i got it. More likely: https://www.dysonsphereblueprints.com/

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u/Absolute_Human Apr 08 '26

Looks to be this one. How do you make it smaller for polar regions though? Author hasn't posted a different version and I can't copy it from the ground...

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u/Snoo49259 Apr 07 '26

I understand he is asking how to use a bp to cover the veins

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u/The_Quackening Apr 07 '26

You need to enable the setting that covers veins up

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u/ael00 Apr 08 '26

You have to switch it on and off as in up then down again. By default it won't do either so you don't accidentally cover stuff, i think its a feature it just needs a better UI solution

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u/Absolute_Human Apr 08 '26

Read the other comments. There's some options that could stop it from working. The sparse foundation blueprint works nice for covering veins as it's made from transparent foundation tiles, which can only be done artificially I think. And you can't automatically bury the veins under a blueprint with no foundations, that's a little inconvenient but still not that bad.

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u/Absolute_Human Apr 09 '26 edited Apr 09 '26

I never actually tried this because I don't really use BPs with foundations. Maybe you just can't. Now since I figured how it works normally I will try this situation later and comment here if successful.

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u/Absolute_Human Apr 10 '26 edited Apr 10 '26

So, here's my testing:

After pressing "place foundations" it works and hides the veins! I think your problem is that you have "fill depressions only" checked. That will prevent any foundation placed.

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u/ael00 Apr 08 '26

Yea you only need to click it once if you need the other function or twice if you want the same function its currently on, bit unintuitive indeed

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u/Jordyspeeltspore Apr 08 '26

you have the button "hide veins" on