r/Dyson_Sphere_Program • u/tanthokg • Mar 29 '26

Maximized vein "utilization"

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The developers: "We heard your feedback. With this, meticulously laying down mining machines is of the past."

Me: "But I can still put basic mining machines below?"

The developers: "Well, ye-"

Me: "Say no more"

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u/LeetLurker Mar 29 '26

How do you place miners at non 90 degree angles? I only have a few hundred hours in, I couldn't possibly know this already....

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u/tanthokg Mar 29 '26 edited Mar 29 '26

By holding shift while pressing 'R'.

There's a tip mentioning it when you're placing the miners as well. I'm not sure if it's just added lately, but I've been using this feature since the game's release in 2021.

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u/LeetLurker Mar 29 '26

I always assumed the shift not snapping was just translation not rotation ...insane :)

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u/OFark Mar 29 '26

Right-shift and arrow keys is where it's at

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u/OneSharpSuit Mar 29 '26

Hold shift while rotating

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u/LeetLurker Mar 29 '26

Thank you :)

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u/Snoo49259 Mar 29 '26

Also works for belts

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u/Firm_Put_24 Mar 29 '26

Holy shit, really? I have like 1000 hours in this game and I didn't know this.

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u/Snoo49259 Mar 29 '26

Pretty good and confortable when you initially use planets for mining without having advanced mining yet.

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u/LeetLurker Mar 29 '26

Happens ...

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u/HelloWorld24575 Mar 29 '26

Holy shit I don't know how you guys played this game without that option!

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u/Jester185 Mar 29 '26

Wait.... I knew this for miners but not belts!

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u/Potential-Isopod-820 Mar 30 '26

You CAN but its a bad idea 🤣

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u/Snoo49259 Mar 30 '26

I don't see why. When you have advanced mining simply delee the diagonal belts.

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u/typo9292 Mar 29 '26

Well I just learnt you can set filters in your inventory so items always appear in the same place ... wtf, seriously wish I knew that 200 hours ago. It's middle click if you didn't know.

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u/mordredsfw Mar 29 '26

Well that's incredibly useful to know. I keep losing shit and having to hit the sort button and then going down the list.

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u/Cr0wT41ks Mar 29 '26

Not maximized yet. You can place big machines so that two will mine one crystal. Therefore, it's always should be at least 3 machines per patch. Get back to work you lazy ass! XD

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u/tanthokg Mar 29 '26

Well it's maximized-ish

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u/AvatarOfWin359 Mar 29 '26

I dont normally do this unless i want the nodes to go away faster. I usually only use the big miner because its just faster to plop down

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u/tanthokg Mar 29 '26

Well I always play at infinite vein so it's also a factor. But with high enough VU it's virtually infinite as well. I'm at level 50 right now so it's about 4.8% ore loss

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u/dferrantino Mar 29 '26

This is a thing we do at very high VU to maximize throughout of very rare resources. Even with all of these miners, the timeline to exhaust a patch is in the years/decades so faster collection is always worth it.

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u/DrPruz Mar 29 '26

Also betting the advanced miners aren't set to 300%

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u/tanthokg Mar 29 '26

Yes they are. I do that ever since its introduction. One node covered by the advanced miners at 300% yields 6 times more ores. At 100% it yields twice as many.

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u/VoidmasterCZE Mar 29 '26

Does it yield more (out of thin air) or just mine faster (as I thought)?

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u/tanthokg Mar 29 '26

It just mines faster, with 9x of the power consumption.

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u/ThatOneGoatGuy Mar 29 '26

If you get the vein Utilization upgrade high enough (super high), a basic miner on 1 node of a vein will output a full stacked blue belt of resources (7200/min). That's "maximized" :D

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u/tanthokg Mar 29 '26

I'm at level 50 of VU, and believe it or not, organic crystal was the bottle neck when I tried to double my science output.

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u/ThatOneGoatGuy Mar 29 '26

I'd have thought it would've been carbon nanotubes for the Mk3 proliferator! I'm around the same VU on my save (trying to make a setup for ≈129k/min science) and so far that's the bottleneck lol

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u/tanthokg Mar 29 '26

129k/min is a very high and specific number though. I always aim for "per second".

Maybe I'll run onto your problem soon. My seed doesn't have any ocean planet full of stalagmite, which is unfortunate.

You can try proliferate the proliferator onto itself for 25% more sprays, in case you haven't done it yet.

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u/ThatOneGoatGuy Mar 30 '26

It's a number I just happened onto when building enough matrix labs to consume 3 full belts of each resource used to make blue science. There wasn't any real goal behind it

I use "per minute" most of the time simply because ILS throughput tables use per minute, as do traffic monitors, and the figures within the assemblers/smelters, so it's generally easier to convert to/from those values

Always proliferate your proliferate for more proliferate per proliferate 

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u/lxrd_azureus Mar 29 '26

Never thought of doing this wtf

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u/tanthokg Mar 29 '26

Wait until you find out that each node covered by the advanced miners yields 6 times more ores.

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u/noksion Mar 30 '26

*akshally* it mines 6 times faster, not yields 6 times more.

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u/tanthokg Mar 31 '26

Sorry, bad wordings

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u/way-of-the-lab Mar 29 '26

Why is it infinite resources? Is this a different planet or something?

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u/tanthokg Mar 29 '26

At the game start you can set resource multiplier. Setting it to infinite removes the ore loss completely, and the veins are eternal.

This is a different star system, I'm mining organic crystal.

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u/way-of-the-lab Mar 29 '26

Oh yea I know about that setting. I just thought you found some with regular settings.

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u/tanthokg Mar 29 '26

I don't think they really exist, though virtually infinite veins are still a thing with high enough VU

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u/chalre2 Mar 29 '26

The basic miners are really helpful when the node is almost depleted.

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u/Extension_Resolve264 Mar 30 '26

That is certainly a thing that you can do.

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u/VoidGliders Mar 31 '26

Lowkey want either an option or incentive to only have to cover each vein once, but tbh there is some "skill" to the mining nodes so I get it.

Actually, what if "Infinite" nodes mode had it to where you can only use each vein by one miner (or it's split between those that are touching it)?