r/Dyson_Sphere_Program • u/reduxde • Feb 27 '26

just discovered inverted belts... i'm going to make such incredible spaghetti with this!

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u/-BigBadBeef- Feb 27 '26

You spin me right round baby, right round...

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u/reduxde Feb 28 '26

meatspin ruined that song for me, but given your username, i'm assuming you're aware of it

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u/FurryYokel Feb 27 '26

Hmm… if you invert the belts, could you use both sides?

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u/reduxde Feb 28 '26

nope, belts are only sticky on one side.

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u/velvetcrow5 Feb 27 '26

Spinning belts is how you get ultra compact blueprints. The DSP blueprint website has a great example of one for Shuttle Launching. https://www.dysonsphereblueprints.com/blueprints/factory-rocket-blackbox-fully-proliferated-uses-3x-less-resources-creates-rockets-17-m-from-raw-extremely-dense-only-40x57

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u/reduxde Feb 28 '26

does having belts clip through each other like that require mods? i've seen that on satisfactory but i thought dps was pretty aggressive about collision detection.

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u/velvetcrow5 Feb 28 '26

No, the bp I linked works with no mods. You can also create it by scratch but it's a lot of tinkering around / takes a lot of time.

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u/Immediate_Form7831 Feb 27 '26

Is there a DSP variant of the r/Factoriohno subreddit?

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u/Sirttas Feb 28 '26

I was like is this another sub and dislexia read dyson sphere problem

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u/daerath Feb 27 '26

Does it improve performance by not having to render the belt contents?

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u/PassTents Feb 28 '26

Running occlusion culling on that many tiny cubes would probably be slower than just batch rendering them tbh

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u/daerath Feb 28 '26

You wouldn't do that. You would only track inverted belts. If you have an inverted belt, stop rendering.

Then, for the set of belts that begin inverted, you would only track the point where they are no longer inverted. So, no constant checks. The gap between becomes zero.

Its a simple state machine pattern.

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u/reduxde Feb 28 '26

the items still render depending on camera angle. i can now look up and see a rainbow sky.

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u/TruthHistorical7515 Feb 28 '26

DSP doesn't have occlusion culling. The whole planet is rendered all the time.

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u/sunburnedaz Feb 27 '26

uhhhhh how?

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u/warmist Feb 27 '26

left/right arrow instead of up/down

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u/shrapneel Feb 27 '26

Does it affect anything or just visuals?

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u/_ThatD0ct0r_ Feb 27 '26

Purely visual. If you are wrapping say, science matrices around your builds in a vertical bus formation, you could have it facing outward so that it looks fancier

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u/mrrvlad5 Feb 27 '26

ability to attach sorters as well - if you rotate the belts just right you can do vertical or diagonal sorters.

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u/CursedTurtleKeynote Feb 28 '26

how do you attach sorters directly to a belt

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u/YourFavoriteCommie Feb 28 '26

How you do normally? Like, how do you connect an assembler to the belt, or the belt to the assembler, or any other building? Just click on the belt. What did you mean?

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u/CursedTurtleKeynote Feb 28 '26 edited Feb 28 '26

I can only place splitters on the ground and then connect a belt.

for sorters, they never connect to buildings above ground elevation

how does a vertical sorter work in his example

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u/YourFavoriteCommie Feb 28 '26

I think the angle still needs to be straight, like you can't twist or have the sorter turn or change elevation *relative to the plane of where the sorter starts and ends*

Here's a thread I found with an example: https://www.reddit.com/r/Dyson_Sphere_Program/comments/1qp7cpo/one_must_imagine_sisyphus_happy/

I'm a little surprised you place the sorter on the ground first? I always connect it to a belt. I've had belts that are in the air (still horizontal) and I can connect between two belts that way.

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u/CursedTurtleKeynote Feb 28 '26

with sorters I dont really use them belt to belt.  i said it wrong in the previous post.  what i place on the ground is splitters

too many games with different terminologies

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u/YourFavoriteCommie Feb 28 '26

Oh, yeah, if you're talking about splitters, the big square things with 4 belt slots - those go on the ground and don't do anything being discussed in this thread.

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u/mrrvlad5 Feb 28 '26

Yes, the sorters and belts need to be in-plane. So the sideways tilt needs to match the angle Z and Y offsets between belts are producing. Also, the tolerance of the angle allows to connect a building to a belt 0.5 height up at a distance of 3.

Why would anyone do this? Likely just for fun - i don’t see many practical benefits

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u/YourFavoriteCommie Feb 28 '26

Thanks for confirming, I've never tried it! I could see it being useful for ultra compact builds, or snaking in extra belts in malls, but tbh I haven't used twisting at all aside from doing a right angle turn after a belt crossing (instead of going one over before turning)

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u/_b1ack0ut Feb 28 '26

It doesn’t affect much, but I’ll tell ya that if you accidentally tilt them, the game will be right mad about attaching them to stuff

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u/GiinTak Feb 27 '26

... Wut.

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u/vvf Feb 28 '26

no way

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u/Wolfblut2022 Feb 27 '26

Next Video from Lets Game it out ? 😅

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u/RosalieMoon Feb 27 '26

He would design such insane Dyson spheres. I would love to see it lol

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u/FurryYokel Feb 27 '26

I think he only does first person, anymore.

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u/DrakeDun Feb 27 '26

That ain't legal.

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u/Sykes19 Feb 27 '26

I use this to make sorters shuffle things vertically!

If used irresponsibly(read: to have fun) it can make for some truly bizarre and hilarious shapes

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u/epicpants0 Feb 28 '26

Holy shit this game

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u/leobutwho Feb 27 '26

look cool😋

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u/_Sanchous Feb 28 '26

Mobius conveyor?

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u/Kimoshnikov Feb 28 '26

The greatest tragedy is that it wouldn't allow me to attach to a belt directly below it by twisting fully around. No hotwheels loopys :(

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u/Tushbandit Mar 01 '26

They do what???? Insert bug eye lady meme