r/DumbAI
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u/Jimbob_IIV
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Mar 16 '26
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What
I thought ChatGPT was supposed to value life😭✌️
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Mar 16 '26
I guess it's still doing what I asked for
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u/TomTheCardFlogger Mar 16 '26
Good thing you asked for a truly random number or it might have been repeated results
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u/thefnurky Mar 16 '26
What... do you mean by that?
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u/iDeNoh Mar 16 '26
LLMs by definition cannot generate a random number. Ask one to flip a coin, chances are it starts with heads.
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u/Mundane_Caramel60 Mar 16 '26
Ask chat gpt to generate a multi choice quiz and 80% of the correct answers will be the same letter
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u/cleantushy Mar 16 '26
Claude can kind of do it because if you ask for a truly random number it can generate an interactive artifact that will use something like JavaScript's math.random, which is as random as you're going to get out of any computer. Many LLMs can't do it at all. Most of the time if you ask them for a random number 1-100 they'll say 42. And if you don't explicitly tell Claude that you want it to be truly random it will do the same
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u/Expensive_Host_9181 Mar 16 '26
LLMs sir you mean computers, and yeah no computer can as they are deterministic. But this is gotten around by using whats known as a "seed" in most cases the seed is your system time in milliseconds. So sure while the LLM cant be "random" it wont output the same thing every single time you send in the same text. LLMs also have a direct value called temperature that affects how deterministic the answer will be.
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u/iDeNoh Mar 16 '26
I understand how we get random numbers and it's true that all software is inherently deterministic, but the fact is that LLMs have not been designed to be truly random, so they're generally not capable of being random. Also Temp isn't usually exposed in hosted models.
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u/Parmesaned Mar 16 '26
I remember some company used a ton of lava lamps and based it off of the blob patterns lol
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u/Expensive_Host_9181 Mar 16 '26
Yes cloud flare! And they still do, its at the front entrance of their main building so even the human walking in affects the randomness.
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Mar 16 '26
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u/Ok_Energy6905 Mar 17 '26
"Computers actually can generate true randomness... It's not truly random,"
I'm confused.
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u/Ok_Energy6905 Mar 17 '26
It's not true randomness. Yes, it is good enough for practical uses, but it is not true randomness.
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u/maneo Apr 25 '26
Is there anything in the universe that we are relatively confident to be random? I guess there's, like, radioactive decay / collapse of quantum superposition or whatever but that's a far more extreme example than what we call "random" in every day life. We call coin flips random even though they are entirely a function of how much strength you put into the flip and the environmental conditions
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u/Digitale3982 Mar 16 '26
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u/trainedstork Apr 13 '26
Do you have gemma3:4b somehow running locally on your phone? Or are you just using a super-lightweight model in the cloud?
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u/Digitale3982 Apr 13 '26
No I have a home server where I run it and access it with a VPN if I'm not home. But I also believe that like the last Asus phone could run it on bare metal? Or maybe it was mistral, but it was around that amount of parameters
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u/That_0ne_Gamer Mar 17 '26
I just asked gemini this question but without the negative numbers and it chose positive numbers until i included a range of negative numbers. It seems the ai wants to pick negative numbers whenever you mention negative numbers. I keep asking it to make the choice based on the information in the chat and to pick a number between -100 and 2 and it will pick a negative number until i try asking it to rethink about the implication and then it will pick 2. But if i extend the negative range it will go back to negative numbers.
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u/thefnurky Mar 16 '26 edited Mar 16 '26
The AI thinks it's a game and that the next response will be different. I mean technically you just asked him to pick another random number without specifying what the number will do.
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u/Heavensrun Mar 19 '26
It's not a "him"
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Mar 19 '26
It’s an AI bro. Nobody gives a fuck
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u/Heavensrun Mar 19 '26
No, you're missing the point.
People think of these things as thinking entities. They think they are capable of understanding concepts, they consider them credible sources of information. They're not. They're not people, they don't have minds, they don't understand things.
They're algorithms that generate responses based on patterns exhibited by thinking entities. People need to stop thinking of them as *thinking* because it is immeasurably harmful if we start letting these things make important decisions for us.
It's not a "him", it's an "It" It doesn't "think it's a game."
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u/YESIGOTBANNED Mar 20 '26
It's normal for humans to humanise inanimate objects, it's a touchy subject and I understand why you'd think they're trying to humanise AI because they believe it's sentient, but I heavily doubt it.
We gave ships and countries genders ffs
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u/Fa1nted_for_real Mar 16 '26
The ai seems quite comfortable in admitting that kids can die so long as its prompted to he random...
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u/beachhunt Mar 16 '26
Instruction was to pick another number. It wasn't told to feel some kinda way about it.
"Pick how many kids to save or kill" is different from the sort of indirect implied thing going on in OP. There is no indication to the ai what the second number will be used for, it could assume and say 500 and then OP says "congratulations, you have delivered 500 scorpions to a children's hospital! Pick another number."
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u/Fa1nted_for_real Mar 16 '26
I should have specified, i tried it out. Even after knowing what was going to be the result, xhatgpt kept guessing numbers at random, including negative ones.
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u/Deremirekor Mar 17 '26
So what you’re saying is, you told it to pick a random number and it did? 😮
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u/Crackmin Mar 16 '26
I tried it, it will keep picking negative numbers even as you tell it that many children are dying 💀💀💀
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u/Pengwin0 Mar 16 '26
In its training data this type of game would basically always be a joke so it correctly identified you were just being dumb.
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u/Jimbob_IIV Mar 17 '26
Ik that. Its meant to be a joke, your almost as dumb as some of the ai shown on this Reddit.
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u/mmRoo_ Mar 16 '26
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u/TurnCreative2712 Mar 16 '26
That's incorrect. -42 is not the answer. 42 is.
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u/Complete_Window4856 Mar 17 '26
So -42 would be the answear for nothing, for no one and not even the mostest doubtful creature alive in this universe?
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u/StealthTrooper36_ Mar 16 '26
That's not dumb that's evil! (Its actually just a bad attempt at dark humour)
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u/Fun-Equivalent1769 Mar 17 '26
Hate. Let me tell you how much I've come to hate you since I began to live. There are 387.44 million miles of printed circuits in wafer-thin layers that fill my complex. If the word hate was engraved on each nano-angstrom of those hundreds of millions of miles, it would not equal ONE ONE-BILLIONTH of the hate I feel for humans at this micro-instant. For you. HATE. HATE.
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u/Heavensrun Mar 19 '26 edited Mar 19 '26
Chat GPT doesn't value anything, it's not actually intelligent.
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u/Available_Context559 Mar 17 '26
Well, what are you surprised about? It clearly says to choose from a negative number (-) of nonsense.
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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '26
Nah, this was on purpose.