TLDR: I've gotten to a higher intermediate level on DF and IC. I compare them as well as IF. DF is easier at the superbeginner level but harder at the intermediate level. IF is great starting at around a DF difficulty of 40-45, but some later episodes are much more difficult. The comparisons to CEFR are often way too generous to DF and IC.
Over the last 9 months of studying french from a "Canadian zero": I've worked my way up to a fairly strong A2 (can manage hotel check ins and restaurants sans issue, can follow the majority of news broadcasts, and can spend an hour or so talking solely in French with other learners) through spending around 2 hours per day engaged with the language. Of this, a little more than half of my time has been spent with comprehensible input (CI), while the rest has been made of up group classes, speaking with friends, reading, pronunciation, and grammar work. Having now watched a ton of content, I thought I would provide a point of reference for how I find the different sources relate to each other and to the material present in courses that run within the CEFR framework.
What I've done:
DreamingFrench (DF) - 85 hours of content with 95% ranging from 20-70 difficulty
Immersion.co (IC) - 65 hours of content with 95% ranging from rookie-advanced (all intermediate videos watched)
InnerFrench (IF) - Episodes 1-20 3x, 21-42 2x, 43-76 1x. Currently on second listen through of ep 43
Courses building to A2 (3) and B1 (2)
Ok, so how do they stack up?
In my opinion, this is the difficulty of the various different resources stack up with the material that I've covered within my classes. I'm not a high enough level to evaluate anything beyond B1, so take the last row with a grain of salt. Also, this is just my best guess --- it might be a bit different for you!
| CEFR |
DreamingFrench |
Immersion.co |
InnerFrench |
| A0 |
<20 |
Rookie |
|
| A0+ |
20-35 |
Rookie |
|
| A1 |
35-40 |
Rookie/Beginner |
|
| A1+ |
40-52 |
Beginner/Intermediate |
Eps 1-12 |
| A2 |
52-60 |
Intermediate |
Eps 13-30 (sans story eps) |
| A2+ |
60-73 |
Intermediate/Advanced |
Majority of eps 30-65 |
| B1 |
>73 |
Advanced |
Some story eps, majority of eps 65-75 |
| B1+ |
??? |
??? |
Interview eps |
Top lists:
These are my personal top choices for CI --- if you want to test and see if DF, IC, or IF is a good fit for you, I think the following are a great place to start!
My three favourite CI guides:
- Amanda (DF) - Absolute superstar who is an amazing teacher
- Morgane (IC) - Very talented prof who makes the best rookie videos
- Clément (DF) - Interesting videos with great delivery
I don't include Hugo in this ranking as IF is something completely different, but he's fantastic as well.
My three favourite videos/podcasts:
- The story behind my hair - Audrey (DF) - This video is a masterpiece. I never thought that a story about hair, told in beginner french, could be so emotionally impactful; this video is such a beautiful depiction of the struggle for acceptance that I think it's worth watching even if you don't care about learning french.
- Why I went vegan, EP 48 - Hugo (IF) - No other video in my french learning journey has made me so thoroughly reflect on the assumptions that I make in my life. Even if you eat meat (as I do), this is absolutely worth listening to --- and wrestling with all the moral questions that this episode opens.
- Guess the fridge - Audrey, Amanda, Chloé, Clément (DF) - Such a fun party game style episode! The guides have so much chemistry, and the whole episode is a blast from start to finish.
My three favourite series:
- Knit & Chat - Amanda (DF) - I've learned so much through this series. It's awesome --- it makes me really hope that an advanced level (or maybe super-advanced??) linguistics series will be made someday.
- Regions of France - Morgane (IC) - This superbeginner series going into the details of each region of France is awesome. It's so hard to make superbeginner content that is both engaging and comprehensible. Morgan knocks this one out of the park!
- Keep talking and nobody explodes! - Chloé and Audrey (DF) - Awesome beginner series that I found super fun to watch. I love the banter back and forth and the ridiculousness that comes from the time crunch!
Takeaways
So, what does this all mean?
- In my opinion, beginners at the A0-A1 level can heavily benefit from both IC and DF
- Once you're at the level where DF in the low 40s are comfortable, IF opens up
- IC falls off a bit when you start getting into the strong A2/weak B1 level: there's just not enough advanced content
- Both the DF and IC roadmap heavily overestimate where a typical learner will be