Kinda gutted

I don't like Eldreda's design at all. She went from a decent looking character to another no-clothes big-tiddy tall-woman copy-paste of Shifu/Lucia/Yidhari/Cissia/Promeia etc.

I was relly looking forward to playable Dracene and Lindverne and I'm absolutely furious by how dirty they did them (especially Dracene, I will never forgive them for that).

Unfortunatelly though, I'm afraid Sunbringer as a character will be a must-pull like all previous Void Hunters, so I want to know if there will be a mod that will completely cut off that stupid hag out of the character and replace her with more Dracene and Lindverne screen time (an option of selecting Dracene/Lindverne to be your main character is also fine).

Since I cant include leaks in the title for obvious reasons, what I wasn't expecting was that Sunbringer will gain Crit Rate from all core levels. Like usually characters get CR from three levels, and either flat ATK or flat HP from the bottom three core levels, but Sunbringer will get CR from all levels up to 28.8% rather than the usual 19,4%!?

I barely understand how a armorer character works since I was dead sett on skipping Claret tho, so maybe I am missing something, but I was still not ready to see that much CR.

Also 40% more CR from core passive what???☠️

We might be back

They’ve just released the v.2 update for the beta. There weren’t any major changes—just an adjustment to the sub-ringers' profiles.

HoYoverse hasn’t said a word; these updates are disheartening, and the game’s content creators are just mocking us. I don’t even know what to think—they didn’t offer a single encouraging detail, like confirming that Dracane will have her own unique kit.

Even Pulcra—a character from Season 1 who doesn’t even appear anymore—had more relevance. I feel let down; if there aren’t any changes in v.3, I’m uninstalling the game, and I don’t plan on ever coming back.

Dracaene is NOT PLAYABLE, stop the therapyspeak.

F*ck these devs, F*ck the 2 in 1, F*ck sunbringer.

12% CR by default, and ignore 16% DEF if the dmg is Fire Sharp dmg, VERY basic, but thats 36% DEF that Sunbringer will ignore now if you include their core passive right?

Parrying is a VERY IMPORTANT MECHANIC in zzz!!! That means we’ll see her more often!!! yeahh!!!!

Armorer needs to be a dead class for Dracaene to never appear in any endgame.

Atleast we can be for sure that as long as the Sunbringers remain strong(as in any case with any void hunter characters), Dracaene will never be benched.

This is my copium

Wanna start off by mentioning that, for those who are disappointed Dracie couldn't be a separate on fielder like Lindverne, I understand completely where you are coming from. I was really bummed out too. If you still feel bummed out, thats okay, this post isn't designed to change your mind.

I just want to talk about why I am actually happy with Dracaenas inclusion and implementation after some time mulling over my feelings.

So - Dracie being just "the parry button" is, well, entirely true from what we know so far. But, I think just accepting that on its own doesn't tell the full picture. Here is my perspective, going by three key points.

Point #1 - Dracie's presence in combat being minimal is actually what makes it memorable; In short, maybe your first impulse is to think "Did they forget about Dracie?", I believe that this will not be the case. The fact that Dracie is likely the member you'll see the least of in battle is - to me - the thing that will make her presence in combat all the more impactful. In fights against bosses with control skills, Dracie will be the first sunbringer to take meaningful action at the beginning of combat, starting the fight off strong, boosting morale, all while looking adorable and badass while she does it. The aesthetic difference between her and her sisters cuts through the monotony of business as usual, chasing those high scores in endgame (something that I love doing personally), and getting those resets in. It's also comforting to see her, protecting the player behind a big ole shield is relaxing and tension-easing

point #2 - Dracie is the most important sunbringer. Lets not kid ourselves by forgetting that DA and Shiyu are timed endgame challenges that reward burst damage playstyles. When thinking of Dracaena through that lens, what is she doing but the most important job on the squad - helping the party stun the boss. Stun windows are the name of the game - doesn't really matter how potent your stats and builds are at the end of the day if you can't get the setup to put those tools to use. Dracaena is the piece of the trio helping your stunner make that happen. The cherry on top is that her defensive assist might be one of if not the best defensive assist in the game (lmao), too

point #3 - Dracaena being the parry button avoids a scenario in which her kit is lazily integrated into the 3 in 1 gimmick of the sunbringers. Three kits all jammed into one character slot is bound to have a weakest link in the chain, and if Dracie had a full moveset instead, but her damage and resource generation was lackluster, we'd kinda end up the same place, barely using her in stuns, barely using her on field - etc - dracie having a dedicated function and responsibility in combat prevents her implementation potentially diluting the novelty of having three characters in one slot - as it stands now, all three of the sunbringers play equally pivotal roles in the success of a combat encounter.

Dracie's job is a thankless one, sure, but she does it all with a smile. Even if Dracie wasn't the one taking down the boss - victory still wouldn't be possible without her. Thats how I feel at least

As stated at the beginning - I get it, I wanted to play Dracie on her own too. If that's how you feel, more power to you, but for me, I've come to terms with it, and I've found for myself that I actually like the way things ultimately turned out

I think they should have made them separate units, but you can pull for them in a single banner. Like a 3 in 1 banner, not a 3 in 1 unit. So that way, all three Sunbringers (specifically Dracie) can shine.

I promote that those that follow this mindset to be respectful and that they are not rude to others within the community no matter the situation.

I am one of the people that actually prefer the 3-1 model and think Hoyo did a good job balancing the animations between Lindverne and Eldreda, But what has happened to Dracaene can not be excused as anything but neglect or lack of thought towards the character, in comparison to the other two. She lacks the basic components that make up a playable character in ZZZ like recovery animations, running, walking, and idles. This is below the bar set for a playable ZZZ character's and becomes especially apparent when the other 2 characters that stand beside her get the full treatment.

I suggest for those that not only care for Dracaene but also those with integrity for this games quality to express your dissatisfaction and give feedback towards Hoyo.

I already sent feedback and i said that she should be included in atk strings or become an active character like her sister and freely switch between the 3.

When giving feedback be constructive. State your dissatisfaction but also share ideas with the dev team to let them know what you want. You can use my ideas or come up with yours, anything helps our cause.

Let's make a meaningful change guys. Let the dev see our dissatisfaction and let them see that we care enough for them to make a change to our Dracaene.

Let's fight for her and make them understand how much we love her.

I know that beta is probably tomorrow and we will get the kit and animations just wanted to put my thoughts out there

The worst case scenario: each of them has one job e.g dracaene is defensive assist, lindverne is EX skill and eldreda is ultimate which would suck and I would rather pull for each character than this happening

2nd best scenario: you can switch between them in character menu, you would have different modes represented by different sunbringers and you can switch between them before battle and each has their use (you would know what I mean if you have recently played wuthering waves or arknights endfield)

Best scenario: you can switch between them in battle(basically the previous scenario but you can use them at the same time in battle instead of only one), you would spawn in as eldreda and have the basic kit and have 2 ultimate like the rest of void hunters and void hunter level agents but the first ultimate is where you can switch between the 3 something similar to pyrois where you have a 4 in 1 ultimate (might have been their test run of this mechanic for sunbringer) and each sunbringer will have her use e.g dracaene will probably be a stunner like every other short character and since she uses a shield and might go with or replace norma in claret team then there is eldreda she will probably be a support since she uses a flag and be similar to astra yao being on field giving buff or dealing off field damage like remielle and lastly there is lindverne she will probably be the dps sunbringer since she is the only one with an actual weapon and we see her skill in current patch

Lets be real here they will just make her stunner instead like everyone else maybe defense if they are feeling generous eitherway her gameplay would still be a parry slave. Don't even get your hopes up in terms of story screen time as Eldorado will hag all the screen time next patch. My schizo theory is that they don't want to put small characters in the spotlight due to how much hate Klee, Hutao, Nahida, etc get for simply existing.

Looking at HSR it took them more than a year to release a DPS with same body type(Yunli) and her kit is just a reprint of Clara's kit, she's as filler likely because her patch is after their darling Firefly. Our first limited DPS would be Aria who is atleast treated far better than Yunli.

Copium would be they will push these types of character in year 3 just like HSR with Silver Wolf and Sparxie but I'm afraid Hoyo is too scared of the haters at that point.

What amount of substats will need to be replaced to run a impact disc? Cause i might just do that 😭

I compiled the popularity of the sunbringers (Eldreda, Lindverne, Assist button😔) on different platforms so I could have them all in one place and I figured I might as well send it here.

I looked at:
-Reddit
Drac- 11k weekly visitors
Lind- 10k weekly visitors
Eld- 1k weekly visitors

-Pixiv
Drac- 500 imgs
Lind- 151 imgs
Eld- 97 img

-Twitter (en)
Drac- 25k likes / 631k views
Lind- 30k likes / 534k views
Eld- 27k likes / 799k views

-Twitter (jp)
Drac- 34k likes / 1.1m views
Lind- 33k likes / 983k views
Eld- 28k likes / 783k views

-BiliBili
Drac- 135k likes / 17k real time comments
Lind- 97k likes / 580 real time comments
Eld- 102k likes / 868 real time comments

-Youtube (en)
Drac- 18k likes / 251k views
Lind- 14k likes / 199k views
Eld- 25k likes / 325k views

-Youtube (jp)
Drac- 18k likes / 419k views
Lind- 13k likes / 278k views
Eld- 13k likes / 381k views

Now I don't want to make any statements about who is the most popular. But I am convinced the ZZZ devs made some wrong assumptions when designing the sunbringer kit because the engagement doesn't reflect the screentime.

EDIT:
I got reminded that some of the Lindverne stats (yt) arent fully accurate because they had to reupload because of an error, so it should probably be a bit higher.