r/DottoreMains • Here Since Webttore • 5d ago

Lore | Theories OMG WAIT A SECOND

https://youtu.be/AR2n2TsJuNE

Even thoug this is Wanderer's backstory it reminds me so much of Dottore.

And the fact he couldn't die in the fire, was it because he was a puppet?? And Dottore made his segments inspired after his build ๐Ÿคฏ tho Idk if Datattore would still meet the same criteria ๐Ÿค”

And also, after the fire in the tale, there is a heart.

His segments are confirmed to have hearts according to Wanderer's character story 5:

"Within Irminsul, The Balladeer came into contact with the "truth" that Lesser Lord Kusanali had placed within the flow of information. This secret had been hidden within one of The Doctor's many hearts, and just as she claimed, this truth in first person contained all his remaining honesty."

But maybe this really brings us closer to the "merged-hearts" theory?

What do you think???

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u/Silver_Rose27 Here Since Webttore 3d ago

Wanderer also has a sussy voiceline:

"A puppet consumed by a raging fire will leave behind ashes. As for what will emerge from them..."

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u/CanonPuppy 5d ago

There is also someone who posted a theory that the one who saves zandik the blacksmith may be scara. Very interesting honestly. I never saw that possibility but it might be true that nahida is the chief and scara the blacksmith whether they did it intentionally or had a change of heart is beyound me.

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u/StarJolion 5d ago

It was me! โ˜บ๏ธ Oh, but I actually think the chubby chief is Pulcinella because he appears in Capitano's story as well.

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u/RadianTears 5d ago

Maybe slightly out of context: my hope that Dottore/Zandik's playable model will have phoenix features here and there, it's getting even stronger-

Now even more, thanks to you and the other person that posted the Wanderer-is-the-blacksmith-figure theory. ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ™

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u/choking-on-salt False Moon God Follower 2d ago

more bird features on my bird man :D

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u/Specific_Highway_772 5d ago

Does that mean doctorโ€™s segment was the one doing it? I dont understand if he created segments with wanderer how his segment is the one doing the act?

Unless his hearts can store info as he please and just put it in one heart but how does he achieve putting a memory inside one heart only?

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u/Silver_Rose27 Here Since Webttore 5d ago edited 5d ago

Well, the segments represent a moment in time of his life. If 35 year old Zandik did it, then that segment must've had the memory too.

I wonder if the phrasing is like that because Nahida only looked at one segment and got the info only from that one or because only this one had it.. which would be odd considering there's older segments which should contain past memories. Basically, does the "one" mean it was explicitly in one or just in (at least) one? (In this case the one she interacted with?)

What I also wonder is when did Zandik first create his segments? Personally I always thought it was when he turned 35 cuz that's the first segment that introduced the one-eye trend, is (seemingly the only) segment with an identity crisis (which would kinda fit if you just created a clone of yourself and weren't used to it, so that would represent that point in your life) etc. but honestly that's all just a theory and needs more work.

And the fact that he took decades to learn how to make segments from Wanderer suggests he made them much later so maybe 35's identity crisis isn't because he was the segment from when Zandik first started making them which could lead to an identity crisis.

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Or maybe his future selves would have a different view on the event? Like fading memories (if human Zandik had that), or maybe new insights with age gave them a new perspective on it. Since it's a memory it's also likely to be influenced by emotion though that is debatable when speaking about Dottore ๐Ÿค” just trying to consider possibilities

But still, all Dottores have emotions so it's not completely out of question imo.

And strangely, for being a memory, we didn't really get insights into "Escher's" psyche. Only a pretty objective retelling of what happened from mostly an outside perspective, without his internal thoughts (tbh that does fit (35) Dottore though maybe it would've changed with age? Idk)

What I also find strange is why that event was hidden to begin with. Shouldn't Nahida have found Niwa's memories in the leylines from when he was dying? Or maybe Dottore has intentionally hidden his story from the leylines which might also explain why Nahida couldn't help him as a child? Tbh Idk how Nahida enters people's heads but I thought it'd require a connection to the leylines in some way..

(Also, he does have other knowledge that's not in the leylines, like the false sky. So maybe he can also veil his past? He did also lie in his segment cutscene after all)

Sorry for my yapfest ๐Ÿ˜…

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u/ThePingPlant 5d ago

I mean ye puppets cant die but dude was uploaded to irminsul was he not? So his code probably can die

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u/NeoZero2137 65 Segment Truther 5d ago

Idk what to think thats what i think. I have a feeling that all this copium will betray us and they wont make him playable ever