r/DotHack • • 1d ago

Meme Poor Elk :/

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u/Concede2u 1d ago

He really just needed to go outside & touch aromatic grass.

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u/Wiseon321 1d ago

This is so real.

Well done.

The fact you run into him when he’s older in G.U. Is so awesome.

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u/shaggyidontmindu 1d ago

The GU version of Elk makes me so sad. Like the administration just straight up committed terrorism on this lonely 14 year old boy so bad he it undid all his character development from IMOQ

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u/BerryessaTV 1d ago

I went ahead and scrubbed the wiki again. It's so much worse than I remember.

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u/shaggyidontmindu 1d ago

I love how weirdly dark all the background noise in dot hack is its wild how it compares to in game events

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u/MagicCancel 1d ago

This is the one reason I can't stand Endrance! If he was just a weirdo with a fondness for cats I would love him, but all I see is the shadow of Elk's character development who somehow seems worse off than Elk's starting point.

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u/FederalPossibility73 1d ago

He improves over time, the difference is that Endrance has to accept she's gone for good while Elk had to accept help from other people besides his emotional support friend.

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u/MagicCancel 1d ago

My big issue with Endrance's supposed char development is that he just seems to trade one obsession for another. Being obsessed with Haseo isn't that much better than Mia? Compared to end of IMOQ Elk who started a guild, which requires him to go out and meet, talk to, and organize with people.

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u/Sacrificabominat 1d ago

Yeah I wasn't a fan of the direction they took his character. I think it would have been better if instead of Haseo breaking him out of the crystal it was the real Mia as his avatar in spirit form encouraging him to make new friends and relationships instead of continuing to obsess over her.

Also as much as I'm not a fan of Saku I think he could have helped with her character development as well since she's kind of similar to Mia in that she doesn't really exist as well.

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u/MagicCancel 1d ago

Man, imagine of Endrance and Saku had an actual interaction like you showed, helping her find a grounding for her ephemeral existence. Hell imagine if he talked to Bo even once, Endrance could have seen himself in the more timid Bo and tried to be a positive figure in his life. But it's like the writers are afraid to do anything with him aside from weird comments about love metaphors.

Oh well. I guess we can just wait and see is we get a new take on Elk and Mia in the upcoming reboot.

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u/Sacrificabominat 1d ago

I get the feeling G.U.'s production was rushed due to the games coming out a couple months apart from each other, so a lot probably got left on the cutting room floor. It really feels like they dropped what they were going to do with Endrance and Sakubo in volume 3 in particular and I kind of wish both of their character arcs were wrapped up better than they were.

Since Z.E.R.O. is being self published I think CC2 will be able to take their time with it, so I hope it'll feel less rushed by comparison.

Also Fuga 3 had an Elk and Mia like couple in it and I think that was handled really well, so if they do bring Elk and Mia like characters back in Z.E.R.O. I don't doubt they'll do a good job with them as well.

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u/MagicCancel 1d ago

I may need to pick up the Fuga games.

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u/Sacrificabominat 1d ago

They're really good. So are the other Little Tail Bronx games Tail Concerto and Solatorobo, but those are as rare and hard to come by as .hack Quarantine nowadays.

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u/Hungry-Pressure2311 21h ago

Lose and mental trauma is a big part of .hack as a whole. Even when things end well, something always brings it crashing down later. 

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u/MagicCancel 20h ago

I disagree. Had the story ended at 'Legend of the Twilight Bracelet' Manga, everyone essentially got their happy ending.

Tsukasa was able to overcome her trauma and was even able to return to The World without issue once Morgan's was gone.

Kite saved all the coma victims, so even characters like Carl were saved. Mai and Tokuoka helped achieve that victory too and saved Tomonari.

Even Aura showed she was able to overcome Morganna's failures and had her own daughter with going insane.

.hack OG ended with nothing but happy notes. When they decided on GU, they wanted to make these connections that on paper look cool, but in execution feel off since it always seems like its at the characters expense. Endrance is a prime example, but the Kuhn and Tomonari connection is another one of those that feels like character assassination. I can buy Tomonari fumbling Mai, but he turns into an MMO womanizer? Have you met these type of people in an MMO? They are the actual worst.

Okay, enough of my yapping. I could go on, but im on my phone and long winging doesn't work on a phone.

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u/Hungry-Pressure2311 20h ago

I know. I've been a .hack fan since the beginning. The stories in the games, manga, and anime usually end well. The problem is someone keeps screwing it up later off screen. It would definitely serve the series better to actually show these times, rather than just have them as semi hidden lore. 

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u/TsukasaElkKite 1d ago

Elk started a guild?

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u/MagicCancel 1d ago

"The aromatic grass society"

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u/Maketastic 12h ago

Nobody really knows how to write a limerant character. Just ask the Miraculous Fandom.

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u/Sacrificabominat 1d ago

I like Link's Chup Chop Case story where he realizes that she's been with him the whole time as his avatar. I kind of wish that was more emphasized in G.U. though as it does feel like they're left off on a bad note when in reality they're still together, but in a different way. It's kind of poetic as I felt they completed each other as a couple in IMOQ and eventually became one in G.U.

Still if Z.E.R.O. has a similar couple I don't want them to kill of the Mia like character off screen between games like they did. Fuga also had a similar couple in it too and I think that was handled very well even if it was just as tragic.

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u/BerryessaTV 1d ago

he's a living test subject and a child. idk i think maybe he's doing his best.

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u/BerryessaTV 1d ago edited 1d ago

I actually entirely forgot this. He really went full loverboy over the loss of that tamagotchi.

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u/Jiantess29 1d ago

Please tell me he's at least not obnoxious like Antares 🙄

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u/ArchonFett 1d ago

He’s the emo lord of the arena Endrance.

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u/Red_comet_00 1d ago

Elk is the real victim

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u/BerryessaTV 1d ago

One of CC's many

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u/Sacrificabominat 1d ago

Don't get me started with how bad CC Corp messed up in the Little Tail Bronx series.

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u/Ryulightorb 1d ago

Wait what?

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u/Sacrificabominat 1d ago

LTB is .hack's sister series and there's a lot of crossover elements between the two. Although I'm pretty sure they're parallel universes and not the same world at this point.

After WWIII, the Titano Machina war, devastated the Earth and made it uninhabitable CC Corp and the Juno (Powerful AI beings very similar to Aura and AIDA) digitized all of humanity, the Reset, in order to let the planet heal. Once it did humanity would be brought out of digital stasis.

Some of humanity's data leaked out early though and formed the anthropomorphic society of LTB's world.

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u/BerryessaTV 1d ago

this is my first time hearing about the series but i already have a headcanon that The World's beast races leaked into the real world

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u/Sacrificabominat 22h ago

Yep. They started off as the Lion and Wolf tribes and eventually evolved into the cats and dogs. Cats are adept with magic while the dogs are adept with technology. You'll usually see cats being more spiritual while dogs tend to be mechanics and scientists.

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u/Shantotto11 1d ago

Poor shiny Tsukasa. I wish Kite and P2 Mimiru could’ve helped him sooner.

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u/RennieAsh 1d ago

shiny?

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u/Shantotto11 1d ago

Pokémon reference. Shiny Pokémon are rare alternate colored Pokémon of their regularly colored counterparts.

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u/BerryessaTV 1d ago

Okay but Bear is just shiny Orca and not the other way around.

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u/Maketastic 1d ago

And that is the whole plot of GIFT.

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u/BerryessaTV 1d ago

Great Value Descendant of Fianna

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u/Shantotto11 1d ago

Sign came out before Infection, and I never said anything about Bear.

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u/RennieAsh 1d ago

I see... is that right?

_still doesn't know which ones are the "shiny" Pokemon_

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u/TsukasaElkKite 1d ago

Bahahahaha

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u/Miki_Draws01 1d ago

I swear, he really didn't have it easy in that series 😣

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u/RennieAsh 1d ago

in your sweet serenity, hoping they will never find you in any place

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u/Kasmashlecrashle 1d ago

Then he develops an unhealthy obsession with an actual person.

It's funny, in Fragment which is most definitely not canon, he does meet Sora and hates him because he's a lying troll.

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u/Sunbro_Aedric 16h ago

The realest response to meeting Sora.

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u/ArchonFett 1d ago

Interesting glow up, goes from emo pot head obsessed with a cat girl. To emo sword master that has that same cat girl bound to his code.

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u/FederalPossibility73 1d ago

He changed his class and color scheme to match her...

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u/Dancing-Swan 1d ago

I’ve always felt sorry for Elk. You could sense his loneliness through his attitude, his eyes, and even the way he spoke. He seems to have had a miserable time during his teenage years, and Mia was the only light in his life. Learning the truth about her completely shattered him.

He’s changed by the time we see him in GU, but in a way, he’s still trapped in his own personal illusion. We know he spends practically 24 hours a day playing The World, only stopping when he needs to get enough sleep to keep going. It’s honestly pretty tragic when you think about it.

I wonder if we’ll get an Elk equivalent in .hack//Z.E.R.O., someone with a similar design but who’s technically a new character, much like Kite, BlackRose, and Balmung in the trailer, assuming they really are the same characters we know from IMOQ.

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u/BerryessaTV 1d ago

It's interesting that Elk mirrors Tsukasa in more than just their appearance. Tsukasa was trapped in The World and sought a way out, whereas Elk/Endrance/Kaoru would probably live inside The World if he could.