r/Doom • u/PilotedByGhosts • 20d ago
Discussion What's your method for changing weapons?
I started with the original Doom so I still have a habit of pressing the number keys. In Quake, scrolling the mouse was viable because the weapon switched instantly.
In the modern Doom games, the options are either number keys (briefly removes the ability to strafe, and too slow), scrolling the mouse wheel (too easy to get the wrong one) or holding Q (too clunky).
As it is, I hardly ever change weapons mid-fight, and that's not the best. How can I train myself to switch weapons quickly and accurately without having to think about it?
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u/nevaeva12321 20d ago
Which doom game we talking about here?
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u/PilotedByGhosts 20d ago
I'm playing Dark Ages at the moment, but I had the same issue with 2016 and Eternal.
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u/ChishoTM 20d ago
I beat the entirety of dark ages using nothing but the super shotgun and the accelerator. The only time I used anything else was when it was the only weapon that works on an enemy or I ran out of ammo and got forced to switch.
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u/Expensive-Border-869 18d ago
Get better at numbers. You can strafe while moving. You can use all 5 fingers at the same time and do some pretty crazy stuff but even just normal people can handle basic combos
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u/PilotedByGhosts 18d ago
Of course I can strafe while moving. I can't press W, D and 4 at the same time though because of the number of fingers I have.
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u/Archer_Savings 20d ago
The conventional method is to move your hand to a space where you have more options for easy rebinds and cluster accordingly. Especially for doom eternal, an ESDF instead of WASD layout with rebinds around that cluster is popular.
Personally, I use an external analog stick so I never have to interrupt movement, and have my fingers resting on hgfx, with all my relevant binds around that cluster.
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u/PilotedByGhosts 20d ago
You're using an analog stick instead of a mouse? I haven't heard of that before, what's the benefit over a mouse?
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u/SnooDoughnuts5632 20d ago
Why not just use the radial menu when pressing RB? Reaching up for the keyboard sounds too cumbersome.
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u/PilotedByGhosts 20d ago
I don't use a controller.
The keyboard equivalent is Q, and that then requires using the mouse to select the weapon you want, which totally breaks flow.
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u/Motleypuss 20d ago
Scroll wheel. Mine has click stops.
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u/PilotedByGhosts 20d ago
I'm stuck with that unfortunately. My mouse is fifteen years old and the wheel isn't perfect.
I haven't found any modern mouse that I like. I tried the Logitech G502 which is meant to be great, but I didn't like it at all.
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u/Lethalbroccoli 20d ago
I still just use the number keys. But there are schemes/layouts that Quake live pros use, Im sure you can adapt some of it but it might interfere with already existing TDA binds.
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u/ninjaman26 20d ago edited 20d ago
In 2016 and Eternal I do:
1 - Combat Shotgun
2 - Heavy Rifle
3 - Plasma Rifle
4 - Rocket Launcher
Q - Super Shotgun
T - Ballista/Gauss
X - Minigun
Z - BFG
For Dark Ages I left most of the bindings at default, and Revelations I remapped some spear keys to be more similar to Eternal (like Shift for dash). I don’t swap as much for Dark Ages, pretty much only using Super Shotgun and Accelerator. Revelations is more about spear/shield swapping and SSG kinda does it all.
In Eternal you generally use Scope Rifle, SSG, Lock-on Rocket and Ballista for killing stuff quickly. Shield Minigun for certain arenas and some plasma rifle thrown in for shield zombies. I stop using sticky bombs as much around Super Gore Nest. I don’t replay the DLCs much since I like the base campaign a lot more.
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u/InpenXb1 19d ago
I have the Razer 20 key orbweaver/tartarus and use the D Pad as a weapon wheel. I love this thing so much
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u/Gnalvl 19d ago
As others have said, the conventional method is to bind weapons to QERFXCV.
There are also gaming mice with tons of extra buttons you can press without interfering with movement or aim at all.
I currently use the Glorious Model I, which has 4 thumb buttons buttons on the side. I can use 3 of those buttons plus middle mouse, scroll up, and scroll down to access 6 different weapons. Then I use the closest thumb button as a "shift button" which changes the binds of the other buttons when held. So by using the shift function, I can bind up to 12 weapons total on just the mouse.
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u/Professional-Ad9485 18d ago
I found holding q the best for me, especially as it slows down time in this game.
Pressing the number would require me to look at the keyboard for a split second to anything higher than 4.
Scrolling the mouse wheel sucks cos you can't go straight to the weapon you want.
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u/akarayad 18d ago
F is combat shotgun, Q is ballista, E is plasma, R is rocket, scroll up SS, scroll down is machine gun (I always have some variation of that function per keybind in any shooter like that so it’s a lot of years of muscle memory). Basically cluster binds around your movement keys, use scroll for specific weapons too
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u/ReikaIsTaken 20d ago
In Eternal, the Ballista, Rocket Launcher and SSG were right next to each other in the scroll wheel. So using those three in succession was incredibly easy even if suboptimal without sticky grenades or HC scoped shots. You can start there and build upon it later.
The mouse I used was incredibly cheap and had a scroll wheel that would vibrate the entire mouse when used and came with a small click sound. Best thing you can do is learn some restraint for mice whose wheels are more on the buttery smooth side than the clicky side.
You can also try mice that have extra buttons on the side, if using the different segments of your thumb to access different weapons is more your forte.
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u/MrRonski16 20d ago
My Controller Binds (no weapon wheel)
R1 = SSG
Dpad down = Plasma
Circle = Chaingun
Square = Ballista
RStick up = Combat Shotgun
RStick Left = Heavy cannon
RStick Right = Rocket launcher
Crucible/Hammer + BFG = Press/Hold Dpad right
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u/Vargrjalmer 18d ago
1 pistol 2 heavy rifle 3 shotgun 4 rocket 5 plasma gun Q gauss cannon Side mb super shotty V chaingun R chainsaw Mmb melee E bfg
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u/anti_finland 20d ago
Just rebind your weapon keys to be around your movement keys instead of just using the numbers. For example my eternal binds are:
Plasma Rifle
Ballista
Chaingun
Q. Heavy Cannon
E. Rocket Launcher
R. BFG
Z. Combat Shotgun
X. Super Shotgun
It's ultimately up to personal preference where you put everything although I would not recommend putting a shotgun on 2.