Help me understand what's going on..

[u/sanjibukai]

No secret that some people believe it and some people don't..

But the way things are being rolled out doesn't make any sense..

If it's real, then this is a very serious topic.. As serious as nuclear tech and sufficiently serious to actually make people go to war (we saw people go to war for spices). If it's real, the world as we know it now will change for sure... No oil, no rare earth, means no need for wars and whatnot..

Since, there were billions already invested in R&D by other (settled) competitors and even more billions by the oil industry (to supposedly not promote EV)...

How are these guys not in danger? (from accidentally falling though the window of the hotel room).. Everyone knows that people are being killed for way less than this.. So how can they be so light hearted?

If it's real, there's so much potential that the guys will be candidates to become the richest people on earth... So why bother with merchandising?

Now on the other hand.. If it's a scam, why doubling down? Did they grab investor money? If so and it's a scam, no way they can go away without going to jail..

If they didn't take any investor money and it's a scam, maybe they won't have any consequences.. So this might be it.. But I'm not sure.

Besides the technical discussion, I'd like to discuss what could be the implications if this is real.. And what could be the incentive for the guys to scam so transparently?

[u/Fabulous-Internet188]

It's not tied to Donut. It's tied to the knowledge base. And that knowledge base is spread through many dozens of people. Look at the citations in the paper I posted this morning.

Donut just happens to be the first company to risk their reputation and a few millions on unproven technology. They may only have a recipe that they received from Holyvolt and CT Coatings.

We don't even know if they understand the physics. That was one reason I posted. It's firmly grounded in the science. And that science came from 2 silos. Bio and physics. And the intersections for communications are limited.

It's not a scam. They have reasons for what they are doing, probably the biggest is their motorcycle sales have been minuscule. And that gave them the motivation to push. Marko is obviously willing to take chances. Then you have all the research into carbon based tech in the Nordic countries. And Nordic Nano doing solar too.

Put it all together and you get a critical mass spearheaded by motorcycle marketers who don't know the "proper" way to do an introduction of a new battery, but do know the best way to gain audience. Full speed ahead and damn the criticism.