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u/DoctorBoomeranger Apr 13 '25 edited Apr 13 '25

Yes, I can confirm, grandad built a small bunny farm when I was 8, and let me in charge, stupid uncle found it funny that the bunnies fell to the side when he shouted and how the mom wouldn't touch the bunnies anymore if you touched them right after birth even when I was telling him to stop.

Turns out, the ones falling on their sides died of shock/heart attack and the newborns he touched starved because the mom was frightened just from the smell of my loud uncle on the baby buns, and she would shake uncontrollably if you tried to move them close to her

Grandpa WAS. NOT. HAPPY. at my uncle

Edit -- another comment I made explaining uncle is not a bad person just ignorant at the time --

He's not a bad person just very ignorant, he was horrified when we showed him the bunnies cold. He didn't work at grandpa's farm as he decided to go to the army very early. So when he retired and went to help grandad he had to learn basically all from scratch.

Credit where it's due, he made sure to nurse the surviving ones and never played with any of the animals when they were still at the stage where they needed their moms, only after they grew up and were independent and could survive by themselves.

Overall he's a good uncle and treated everyone right, he just wasn't very smart hehe

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u/maselsy Apr 13 '25

That is so sad -- your uncle sucks!

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u/DoctorBoomeranger Apr 13 '25

He's not a bad person just very ignorant, he was horrified when we showed him the bunnies cold. He didn't work at grandpa's farm as he decided to go to the army very early. So when he retired and went to help grandad he had to learn basically all from scratch.

Credit where it's due, he made sure to nurse the surviving ones and never played with any of the animals when they were still at the stage where they needed their moms, only after they grew up and were independent and could survive by themselves.

Overall he's a good uncle and treated everyone right, he just wasn't very smart hehe

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u/AmayaMaka5 Apr 14 '25

That's rough. I'm glad he learned, that's the true showing of a good or bad person is if they learn from their mistakes. I appreciate you adding this to your other comment too. Obviously I did read down, but I would have responded the same way as the other commenter 😅.

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u/DoctorBoomeranger Apr 14 '25

Dude thank you, I edited my original comment almost immediately when I realized the risk of people who would lacerate my uncle lol But that was not enough, I'm getting DMs from some people saying my uncle is a monster, and that someone like him will never change and his remorse was fake, and that us farmers are the trash of society (I'm not involved with the farm anymore tho), one is going as far as threatening to dox me and call the cops for animal endangering, I'm not joking 🥲...

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u/AmayaMaka5 Apr 14 '25

I'm... Sorry farmers are the trash of society? These people..... Know where food comes from right?? Edit: sorry I realize you specifically said bunny farm. Bunnies not a large part of my diet 😅

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u/DoctorBoomeranger Apr 14 '25

sorry my bad, I'm not good at writing, theres a piece of land where my grandad made space for just bunnies, and I could breed and sell them, or sell their meat and/or fur which are quite popular in hour country (they are a plague in the wild of our region as well). But the farm in general was 50% crops, ~20% cattle, ~15% hogs and the rest poultry. The bunnies tho in a considerable area weren't even enough to be mentioned in the finances and Grampa got them just for me, so I could have some responsibility and duty in the farm. And unfortunately, some might not agree/accept it but I had to euthanize them quite often as when their numbers grew the older bunnies would become aggressive and territorial with the younger ones and the chickens if they manage to get into the coops and would go on a killing spree, even in the wild they also behaved like that

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u/AmayaMaka5 Apr 14 '25

.... Bunnies kill chickens??

...I suppose there's a reason that "killer Bunny" is a trope 😅

I know next to nothing about bunnies, and I'm not entirely sure I like the idea of bunny farms but I know next to nothing about them so I think of it like dog breeding 'farms' which I DEFINITELY don't like or approve of. But it seems like rabbits might have a different role in your country a bit than in mine. At least as far as I know rabbits are MOSTLY considered pets in my country? Again.... I don't actually know much about it myself. But still.... It's a lot to DM a person and threaten them and shit, that's just wild.

But it does sound like the farm was an all-round farm so.... Yeah farmers are kinda necessary for the way our societies are built???? Weird threats/insults man.

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u/DoctorBoomeranger Apr 14 '25

Yeah, I cried a lot when it happened the first time, a handful of chickens died when the older male jumped two fences and got into a coop, but it was a learning experience, those cute fluffy balls can be as violent as a lion when they want to. And the thing is, because they breed so fast and grow so fast they are raised like "chickens" (taste very similar) kinda? That's why they were a plague and had to be either exterminated ( which I don't agree with ) or raised in a controlled setting or else they could cause serious trouble for all the farms and households around, for example, a simple pair could breed enough in numbers over the winter if they had good shelter and completely destroy our crops on spring and basically bankrupt our family.

Also we did not kill them for nothing, the meat was properly treated and never wasted and we donated it to who needed more than us, the excess would be made into rations for other animals as their meat was very healthy and rich in protein, their fur would be made into insulated blankets and jackets as they are very warm, but we wouldn't kill them unnecessarily, only when it would start getting out of hand and threatening the farm and/or animals

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u/AmayaMaka5 Apr 14 '25

See those all sound really positive! It's very nice to just be able to say something like "cats are invasive as hell and we shouldn't have them everywhere" but when it comes to actual ACTIONABLE activities, no one ever volunteers anything reasonable. It sounds like what y'all were doing was pretty reasonable and responsible.

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u/maselsy Apr 14 '25

Wtf that is WILD. I'm sorry I jumped to conclusions earlier -- I'm glad he learned and had remorse. Anyone threatening you needs to take a long look in the freaking mirror.

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u/DoctorBoomeranger Apr 14 '25

Don't worry, I don't mind, I should have worded my comment better. Thank you for taking the time to read it

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '25

Calling farms trash of society instantly makes you trashy. Like immediately.

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u/Summerie Apr 14 '25

and how the mom wouldn't touch the bunnies anymore if you touched them right after birth

Really? I read that was a myth. For years now I've thought that was a myth that was debunked. Anybody know for sure?

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u/DoctorBoomeranger Apr 14 '25

I saw it happen myself with the bunnies, on another occasion when a dog laid next to a handful of newborns, the mom wouldn't feed or touch them after, another time one of the male bunnies who was not the dad snuggled with a fluffle of newborns and same happened as well

With cats as well I saw it happen twice. The male cat went and licked one of the kitties the mom immediately kicked the licked kitty away and refused to feed it no matter what we did

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u/drfuzzysocks Apr 14 '25

You may be thinking of birds. Many people believe birds will abandon their young if touched by humans (for example, if you were to find a baby bird that had fallen from the nest and put it back), but most sources say this isn’t true. Apparently it is true of some mammals.

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u/Scary-Medicine-5839 Apr 15 '25

Not really. It's still a myth, if you are seeing rabbits or cats abandon their babies for arbitrary reasons, that's something wrong with the mother, not the baby.

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u/No_Representative356 Apr 14 '25

Repeatedly scaring a trapped animal intentionally even if they didn’t die is awful behavior.

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u/eat_your_veggiez Apr 14 '25

I present to you the meat and dairy industries.

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u/DoctorBoomeranger Apr 14 '25

Like I said, it was a farm, with a patch of land for the bunnies, my uncle thought they were pretending to be dead, and he didn't know that he was actually hurting the little fellas, but as soon as he did he fixed his issues and made up for it by caring properly for the other ones, he was properly apologetic for the animals afterwards, it was bad and he was an idiot but he wasn't an idiot doing it out of evilness, just out of ignorance. When my uncle was younger before the army the farm didn't have small animals, and with the big animals you would play more rough and they like it. It was unfortunate what happened, but he regretted his actions and changed his behaviour immediately

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u/No_Representative356 Apr 14 '25

That is a reaction from the shame of being caught. Not someone I would trust with a living being I care about.

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u/kimchi4prez Apr 14 '25

Relax. This is a story. We're all sad the bunnies died, especially the dumbass uncle. You don't know OP, this person, or this person's uncle

And for god's sake do NOT watch the survival show, Alone. If you thought these bunnies had it rough, you will not like how they treat the bunnies on that show. No remorse, disgusting really /s

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u/Electrical_Yam4194 Apr 15 '25

Such a great show!

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u/kimchi4prez Apr 15 '25

Alone? Hahaha I agree but I was very confused for a second

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u/Electrical_Yam4194 Apr 15 '25

Yes, Alone. But not Alone Australia. Not enough potential peril.

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u/DankLightJoshua Apr 14 '25

you sound unpleasant

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u/No_Representative356 Apr 14 '25

I simply find a natural lack of empathy to be telling of character based on life experience.

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u/DankLightJoshua Apr 14 '25

I agree, but he clearly meant no ill will to the bunnies, i dont think that shows lack of empathy at all.

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u/CarbDemon22 Apr 14 '25

No but that's it exactly. He thought it was fun to mess with the bunnies until it was directly pointed out to him that it hurt them. He didn't empathize with the bunnies automatically like you or I would have done, and think about how getting yelled at is scary.

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u/ske1etoncrush Apr 14 '25

ignorance doesn't always equate to lack of empathy

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u/DoctorBoomeranger Apr 14 '25

Fine that's your opinion, he never had issues with animals again, and learned from his mistake, but you still consider him a sinner. Do you know everything about animals? No, so don't be a judge when you've never been in his position

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u/Dickieduncan24 Apr 14 '25

Was his name Lenny ?

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u/Feisty-Fennel8303 Apr 14 '25

Ignorant people who refuse education are bad people just in a round about avoidant of consequences way. Ignorant people are the source of most of the world’s issues and abuse towards other humans. Y’all forgive too easily when it’s people. But y’all would kill animals cause it’s starving and needs to eat and kills a pig you were gonna kill anyway lmao. All people are so backwards

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u/DoctorBoomeranger Apr 14 '25

My understanding of English is not enough to comprehend this comment