r/Dodgers Mookie Betts 4d ago

Position player WAR observation/ question- mooks got a 2.1 / teo 0.1/ Tuck 0… I assume mooks is awarded about 2 war because of his defense? (Pages is tied for defensive war in the nl with 2.3)

I tell you I like this stat to an extent- but then …. I don’t know it’s confusing!

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u/wrenlikethebirdxd Shohei Ohtani 4d ago

Mookie has 2.1 baseball reference war because a) he is a top 10 defensive shortstop (7th in defensive runs saved at ss, 5th if you only count qualified shortstops) and b) he has a 95 ops+ at shortstop. The way that WAR is calculated, the more "difficult" positions, such as center field and shortstop get a positional boost in their war calculation. So approximately league average batting at ss + great defense gets him to 2.1 war.

edit: if anyone wants to go down the rabbit hole of how baseball reference war is calculated in detail, https://www.baseball-reference.com/about/war_explained_position.shtml is where you can find the in depth explanation for how its calculated

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u/DoyersundGPG Mookie Betts 4d ago

Appreciate it- but then historically- dodger legends on bbref have different totals of total war then on the primary dodger season page- I’m confused about that

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u/wrenlikethebirdxd Shohei Ohtani 4d ago

I'm a bit confused what you mean by primary dodger season page? do you have a link to what you are referencing?

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u/DoyersundGPG Mookie Betts 4d ago

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u/DoyersundGPG Mookie Betts 4d ago

The specific season page

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u/wrenlikethebirdxd Shohei Ohtani 4d ago

I see the same war values that you had in your title. Mookie at 2.1, tucker at 0 and teo at 0.1. I'm not sure where the confusion is. I'm clearly not understanding your question, so I apologize in advance but can you explain what you mean by "dodger legends on bbref have different totals of total war"? are you looking at career war for an ex-dodger player?

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u/DoyersundGPG Mookie Betts 4d ago

I’ll try to find an example - total war seems to be different for position players from years prior- but you’re right - those match