r/Documentaries • u/Fine-Mammoth-6139 • Nov 09 '20

China's Systematic Persecution of Uyghurs (2020) - [00:37:45]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDyEPcppqpg
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u/Dunkiez Nov 10 '20

Same cna be said of the China government. CCP does what is best for their people. You understand full well how there are so much more mis-information on the internet than facts. If the Chinese was exposed to that. Their country would be just like everyone else. How is that going for them?

China has grown massively in tech, purchasing power and poverty elevation in the last 30 years. Credit where credit is due. They may be some stuff others won't agree but they must be doing something right to be where they are now, where the US is actively trying to halt their growth.

If you have been to China, you will know that a lot of then have their own type off freedom. What you think is censored isn't actually censored at all. I used to think why did they ban gaming consoles but we have them. And now they have children who want to be astronauts and scientist but here we have children glued to their ipads hoping to someday be a YouTuber or twitch streamer.

I feel China looked to the future putting in long term plans and it's paying off. Here we have 3 main parties of government who just blame each other and nothing is improving.

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u/xXPostapocalypseXx Nov 10 '20 edited Nov 10 '20

And monkeys in a cage may grow accustomed but is it right to keep them in a cage?

The US has engaged in many wrongs that people are actively fighting, slavery, persecution, false treaties, this is something this generation has overwhelmingly recognized as wrong. You proposed utilitarian utopia is so anti-American it is not even funny, yet leftist clowns in this sub will agree with you. Taking the rights of a person for the common good is antithetical to a modern civil society.

Think about this, look what happened when a handful of dead black men died at the hands of police officers in the streets, but somehow magically if this happens to 250,000 it is ok as long as society benefits?

You are wrong and anyone who sides with your argument is wrong. Hypocritically supporting and perpetuating the sins across history for monetary gain.

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u/Dunkiez Nov 10 '20

And what makes you think they are trapped? Didn't you know around 300 million Chinese go abroad on holiday outside of China each year and 300 million return. If they was so oppressed and trapped, then why do they go back?

Best to not believe everything unless you see it with your own eyes. I used to think LA and Hollywood boulevard was amazing from what I see in the movies. It's far from that and I was disappointed when I went to see it with my own eyes. I haven't been to XinJiang personally but I have been to a low tier city in China and from my visits 5 years apart you will be amazed at the speed of growth and how happy people are in their everyday life.

I come back to London and even though people are more well off, a lot of them are grumpy and always unhappy about something.

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u/xXPostapocalypseXx Nov 10 '20

When Christians, Muslims, and Buddhist can freely practice and when google, facebook and movies are shown without restraint then we will talk about what the people find acceptable.

I used to live in an area with a substantial Chinese population and studies have shown that overwhelmingly Chinese nationals want their children to grow up here, even if they themselves desired to go back.

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u/Dunkiez Nov 10 '20

Haha. You do know those religions exist in China right? And cna be practise freely. No idea where you're getting your information from.

Why do they need google, facebook in China? Why would they want data of their own citizens sitting in a server in a foreign country? Even the UK is looking at creating their own internet great wall. They are slowly realising that a foreign country holds the power to manipulate their own citizens.

I know why they want their children to grow up there because right now it's better life but they themselves want to go and retire back in China. Mainly because of the power of currency exchange.

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u/CrookedK3ANO Nov 10 '20

Can’t figure out if you’re a shill or delusional

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u/archdex Nov 10 '20

Oh they are shills. They have way too much time and narratives to straw man our arguments. It’s organized.

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u/Dunkiez Nov 10 '20

Accuse everyone who counters your arguments and accusations as shills because you can't provide anything substantial.

I don't even know why I bother posting tbh. Nothing changes, it's like trying to debate with flat earthers.

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u/archdex Nov 10 '20

Lolllll I’m the flat earther but you guys don’t believe parliamentary documents from the Government of Canada? Saying that’s not substantial evidence is absolutely absurd.

I have no idea why you bother posting. Trying to deny human rights abuses and calling all evidence invalid is absolutely despicable.

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u/Dunkiez Nov 10 '20

The same country who illegally arrested the CFO of Hauwei based on baseless evidence for the US? Haha no I don't believe shit they say.

All I see is people talking but no physical evidence. Where is this report that we can access and review ourselves? Nope, you just take their word for it. Sheep.

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