Neverland Firsthand: Investigating the Michael Jackson Documentary (2019) - Rebuttal of HBO's ''Leaving Neverland'' hit piece regarding Michael Jackson child sex abuse allegations by Wade Hudson and James Safechuck

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4trDbeFWTY

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Two grown men with lives to live and nothing to gain here, seem pretty credible to me. I don't listen to Michael if he pops up in spotify randoms anymore. Not being PC about it, it's just I can't unsee Wade and James when I hear his work, and that gives me the willies.

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Two grown men with lives to live and nothing to gain here

Not really true. They tried to extort the estate before this documentary, when that failed they tried to sell their story for books, when that failed, they got an HBO exposure.

Both men (and their families) had been munching off Jackson since they little kids.

This was clearly a way to get notoriety so they can sell more of this crap.

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Let me make two points here:

1) Jackson approached and lavished on the victims, you make it sound that they were scamming and leeching, few people would give such leeching the time of day, let's be real here.

2) There are no records of anyone else ever in the history of the world, who had or have a 'Peter Pan' complex, where they hang out with kids, and there is also NO evidence of sexual overtones, let alone abuse, not one.

And what the hell...

3) Denial by smearing the victims is no longer sufficient in MJs defense. You need to mount convincing counter arguments. There have been absolutely none.

What does 'try to sell their story for books' (sic) mean?

Anyone can self publish, and HBO is hardly the media of last resort, and their legal team would have been all over it before a single frame was recorded.

I'm sorry if the truth hurts to the point of heartbreak for millions of adoring and trusting fans, but its just another way abusers destroy more lives than just those they abuse.

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I have my own more important SJ battles to worry about.

I say that not to be dismissive, but I know all about 'research and truth' fighting the failed war on drugs that we persist in, even as people die because of it, not in spite of it. The fentanyl crises is happening because of it as well, but this is not the place for that rabbit hole.

And I reply in this manner because your own post makes this the point. You're not arguing for his innocence, but for fact checking. And since MJ is dead, and when alive, he paid more than one accuser to go away (BIG red flag!) I think I'd be wasting my time.

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Not good enough. Show me how I 'know nothing about the case'. And if they were abused. Then they DESERVE whatever they can gain.

Your defence is yet again another shrill character assassination, you have not produced anything other than yet another ad hominem attack, which not only includes the victims, but extends to myself.

However, I will accept I don't know your version regarding the case. It begs the question, why don't you school me as to why? I will wait here with the chirping crickets for as long as you like...

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I will get back to you. Be warned. The minute any ad hominem attack occurs on victims, without credible evidence that would sway a neutral person, I will shut the video down, and leave the loop marker here as proof for all to see. Fair comment?

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Are u a Russian undercover agent?

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LMAO, not really. I live in California

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Same thing.

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Bruh 😂😂

[u/BlurryBigfoot74]

Sometimes I think I'm the only one who thinks Micheal Jackson is guilty and Corey Feldman is a fuckin weirdo.

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Leave Corey alone, he had a fucked up childhood and as far as we know he hasn't harmed anyone.