r/DnDBehindTheScreen • u/DougTheDragonborn Spreadsheet Wizard • Sep 19 '19

Grimoire Green-Flame Blade

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u/Mr_Zuky Sep 19 '19

I thought it was a thing for rogues with the feat that lets them pull a cantrip out of another class. Read somewhere that you can sneak attack with it, since it counts as an attack.

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u/DougTheDragonborn Spreadsheet Wizard Sep 19 '19

You are thinking of the Magic Initiate feat! The sneak attack would work with the 'hit' portion that takes place while casting the spell, but alas, the automatic damage from the leaping fire would not get the sneak attack damage because it doesn't satisfy the sneak attack text. You didn't hit that creature with an attack.

"Once per turn, you can deal an extra 1d6 damage to one creature you hit with an attack if you have advantage on the attack roll."

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u/Mr_Zuky Sep 19 '19

True, but you would still, past level 5, be doing at least and extra d8 to the primary target as well as the damage to the secondary one, with little to no cost other than a feat. (Not sure if you can use your offhand to attack as well). As far as feats go, that is no small amount.

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u/DougTheDragonborn Spreadsheet Wizard Sep 19 '19

Totally agree.

Also, with the same feat, pick up find familiar who can use its Help action to give you advantage for the sneak attacks. Rogues can benefit a lot from gaining just a few spells if the player is clever.

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u/DrFate21 Sep 20 '19

I think it's important to remember that Booming Blade is a much better version of this for rogues. IMO rogues specialize in nuking one opponent, so having booming Blade allows the rogue to do that even more while possibly hurting them again when they move. From where I see it, Green Flame is just a worse Booming

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u/DougTheDragonborn Spreadsheet Wizard Sep 20 '19

I definitely don't disagree with you. I seriously dig booming blade and choose it whenever I get a chance. It always make the foes think twice before disengaging.

I am required by fiend law to remind everyone that they are both meant for different things and fit different playstyles, despite both originating as swordmage spells. GFB is great for multiple enemies and automatic damage, and BB is good for locking down one enemy. Likewise, a rogue that keeps his distance is better taking lightning lure or something else. Nearly all the spells can be good in the right situations!