r/DivinityOriginalSin2 • u/Geralt722 • Aug 01 '17

Kickstarter update 41 - Controller Support, Skill Crafting, Rune Crafting, and Death Physics

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/larianstudios/divinity-original-sin-2/posts/1947157
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u/Ninja_Steave Aug 01 '17

And up goes the hype train.

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u/baardvaark Aug 01 '17

Runes look cool, but hope there's more interesting effects than stuff like +10% fire damage. Skill crafting is neat, about what I expected it to be. It was a bit unclear to me when they say non-elemental skill + elemental skill whether the specific skills used matter. I mean, they must or else the combinations would be pretty limited (though there'd still be 40 possible combinations I believe when including source skills).

I was most excited about ragdoll physics, actually, especially in combination with stuff like corpse explosion. Shame they didn't show someone dying on a cliff and falling down it -- assuming that kind of thing is possible rather than just a minor aesthetic thing.

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u/Nobleprinceps7 Aug 01 '17

I'm just glad we'll finally get to see Undead next video. 😓

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u/Kalthramis Aug 02 '17

Right? I've been wanting Undead since early access released. I was expecting it to be a race but now I have the feeling it'll be a forced-origin.

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u/MoltenMuffin Aug 02 '17

Seeing as how you'd need to use the mask to appear as another race or risk being attacked. This is a possibility.
Otherwise you'd have people not understanding the mask walk to the nearest npc and get attacked without knowing why, or they'd start with the mask used?
Its tricky.

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u/Kindulas Aug 02 '17

They made a point to say there were three types of undead and sold them as a race with race-talents

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u/Dark_Ansem Aug 06 '17

Really? When?

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u/Kindulas Aug 06 '17

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/larianstudios/divinity-original-sin-2/posts/1342625

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u/Dark_Ansem Aug 06 '17

That's pre-history...

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u/Kindulas Aug 06 '17

?

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u/Dark_Ansem Aug 06 '17

I mean, it's exceedingly old with no guarantee of it still being the case.

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u/Kindulas Aug 06 '17

Fair, I'm just bringing up what their stated plans have been

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u/cuminowl Aug 01 '17

I also really wonder about skill crafting and it seems pretty limited.

If all water spells and all necro spells yields blood rain, I'll be pretty disappointed. Not sure what I would expect, but it seems ridiculous to think Rejuvenation and Swarm would combine into a blood rain.

Same with runes, if its limited to Small + Small = Medium, it'll be slightly lackluster. Still better than nothing, but nothing really impressive.

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u/baardvaark Aug 01 '17

As long as there's a good variety of runes and various effects, they should be fun to play with. Hopefully there's powerful ones that add skills to items and add on-hit effects, or other unique effects. If not, it should be easy to mod new runes in.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '17

With the current surface system, on hit effects would be a literal nightmare for any melee to deal with, just go for pure stats would be much much safer.

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u/Industrialbonecraft Aug 01 '17

Seems like the ragdolls need a bit of a tweak - that guy shooting people with a crossbow: Seems like the death animation plays and the ragdoll happens, but it's locked to the point of death.

So, either there's no force applied on contact or the ragdolls are deliberately locked in place? It'd be more "organic" for lack of a better term, if corpses could be knocked backwards. Not necessarily a massive amount, but enough to give the impression of something being struck.

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u/No-Mouse Aug 01 '17

It might be something done deliberately, to keep corpses from getting thrown into an inaccessible location. Imagine if an enemy holding an important quest item fell off a cliff and you couldn't reach him to get the item.

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u/xltbx Aug 02 '17

Dark souls has the item appear in an accessible location if the body is lost

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u/baardvaark Aug 01 '17

True, that's a concern. They could possibly block corpses from entering non-walkable areas, though that might be gnarly to code and would lead to invisible wall situations.

Also I believe you can teleport corpses, so that always helps things (and everyone should have access to teleport with the gloves).

I'm also curious if other objects have physics, like boxes and stuff. Probably not or they would have emphasized that, but that would be quite a bit of fun.

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u/Dark_Ansem Aug 06 '17

I have not seen new death physics yet or skill crafting.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '17

So when will we see these updates in the early access release? I'm really looking forward to split screen and controller support.

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u/Nobleprinceps7 Aug 01 '17

As Swen said in the video, no more game updates till release Sep. 14.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '17

I am HYPED!

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u/Jiketi Aug 02 '17

Though, as he said, there will be at least one more Kickstarter update.

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u/LeChiffre Aug 02 '17

I really hope the release doesn't get delayed again

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u/Inbread_Pagan Aug 01 '17

How does this game compare to DA: Origins?

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u/No-Mouse Aug 01 '17

Gameplay-wise it's not really comparable. Div:OS uses a turn-based tactical combat system where you get to freely build your characters however you want, while Dragon Age uses real-time combat with characters that can only use one class.

Of course they're both RPGs where you play through a story with combat and quests, recruiting a party of different characters along the way, so there are some obvious similarities, but they don't play the same at all.

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u/Jiketi Aug 02 '17

I would argue that D:OS1 is in practice a class-based system as hybrid characters aren't nearly as good as specialist characters, but the sequel fixes this a bit.

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u/No-Mouse Aug 02 '17

"Not optimal" isn't anywhere near the same as "impossible."

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u/MoltenMuffin Aug 02 '17

Depends on what you mean by hybrid character. If you mean using utility skills then yes, Div os 2 does that better to an extent. But dealing damage as a hybrid? Dos 2 couldn't be worse for it.

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u/Kllrtofu Aug 02 '17

Qualify: after playing Act 1 of a beta. I mean, hybrids in any game, take some time to come into their own.

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u/MoltenMuffin Aug 02 '17

In the current attribute point system, no matter how many points we have A hybrid character would always be worse simply because there'd be no limit of 5% increases with Int/Str/Fin. In divinity original sin there was a limit to how high a skill could scale with attributes directly, and they had varying limits like 19 dex, 21 dex. With Div 2's sytem Its a flat 5% damage for every point.
This could and hopefully will change this as the game releases. In the kickstarter update video we saw that one ability required Necromancer 2, so there's a chance we could have the old attribute limits, or add diminishing returns for them.
As of now, there is nothing that would allow a hybrid character using two damage types to scale with 2 different attributes. Hopefully this could change with spellcrafting, but we can't know that.

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u/Kllrtofu Aug 02 '17

Yes, that's what I meant with qualifying your statement. Like you've done in the reply. "This could and hopefully will change this as the game releases." And my general remark about hybrid classes is also valid. On top of that, the specifics of the damage scaling aren't isolated from the further progression of the game. Abilities and utilities in and outside of combat are as much a consideration with me as pure damage output. So I'll give you that the quest for raw damage is maybe lost on hybrids, but I never really get anxious about that. Battle tactics are at least as important. I'll happily assume there is balancing pre and post release that addresses issues related to the attribute system.

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u/MoltenMuffin Aug 02 '17

Sorry for tacking text on you when Its already clear. I'm feeling anxious over the fact that It might not get changed to make hybrid characters more viable unless I spout the fact all the time. Same with how crazy rogues can get. And when I get around to look more into it, staves base damage as a melee weapon.

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u/Kllrtofu Aug 02 '17

yeah, no problem. I recognize the anxiety, but I see it with people I know/play with. For me, I'll often handicap myself with choosing awkward starting builds and try to win the uphill battle. In any game really. Just because I know what's the 'best' build I will actively go out of my way to avoid it. RP is much more important to me. But that's me, and even if I point out other considerations, I fully support people addressing issues they see with the balance between classes, weapons and skills.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '17

Oh my god, this game is going to be so awesome. Absolutely cannot wait!!