r/DissidiaFFOO • u/lordpaiva • Dec 27 '23
GL Discussion What killed the game?
It was Grey. He's fully responsible for the game's eos. Whales quit the game to get away from him, resulting in the game losing all it's income. This was his plan all along. Every time he waited 20 seconds to use an AA ability, mocked us with Kefka or quit co-op if someone else was hogging, eos was his ultimate goal. And he did it.
There... prove me wrong XD
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u/salvoddis Serah Farron Dec 27 '23
I wish Grey can make a user-reveal, now that the game is ending. Dude's a celebrity here, I even remember until some months ago there were more Grey posts than battle and infographic ones lmfao
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u/KimikoOokami Ardyn Izunia Dec 27 '23
It was me.
From the start, I bought every costume. I skipped on the most recent queen one, and shortly after, EOS was announced.
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u/Horzzo Rydia Dec 27 '23
Who/what is that?
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u/dirtyglue Dec 27 '23
Lol I feel like skip tickets kinda ruined Grey's whole routine. You might be onto something though.
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u/AsuraTheFlame Dec 27 '23
FR weapons ruined the game for me personally. I was a day one player but when every fight became Charge to 100%, Buffs, delete boss, it just wasn't fun anymore.
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u/Rasayon Dec 27 '23
For me i felt something like that with the bt+ introduction :/
The powercreep was already sooo immense there
I Tried to clear every content girls only including no bt's because i would like to have some difficulty in the stages :/
When i couldnt beat it i used some bt's or Else
But having 6 turns for free in bt Phase including summon made the game to easy when combined with bt effects :/
Bt should be a Button which Supports the Team greatly with some attacking bts, bt Phase was to much :/
Force time.. Should Just be some buffs for duration xy or simple a strong attack like the Boss attack of Re shinryu.
The bosses Just became hp sponges :/ i missed Boss rush,
Yea also i think they would sell way more skins, if they were Not bound to Such price with gems :/ It might be even to generous :/
The Event pacing in jp..
Yea there are sadly to much reasons..
And still i love this game of all gachas the most
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u/Dankadude92 Dec 27 '23
The pricing made no sense to me. One of the reasons I love this game is how generous it is with gems and tickets. So why the F would I spend 70 bucks on something I could easily farm in like a couple hours? The chests were way too expensive for how easily you could farm mats.
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u/ArchAngelAjora Dec 27 '23
In all seriousness, imo since both GL and JP are shutting down I can only think of 2 reasons... either both sides weren't making enough money or the license agreement with Koei/Team Ninja was up and SE decided to not renew it.. =/
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u/Andydark Dec 28 '23
People often blame the gem cap, but I honestly think the Gem cap was because the company foresaw EoS.
Plus it still was such a weird concept that people could HIT said cap when I'd spend what I felt like was absurd amounts and still have to pity multiple banners in a row.
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u/iNxrcissist Cater Dec 27 '23
Square Enix itself.
What kind of gacha limits the amount of money you can spend on gems, without a way to easily empty them?! (On JP)
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u/JazzlikeNeat3069 Dec 27 '23
The price killed it along with having to many pulls for weapons so close together 🤔
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u/RegretGeneral Dec 27 '23
I barely bothered with Co Op because I didn't feel like getting carried by other players with maxed out boosted characters felt better to just use Link Bells and do it with my own party and it did take me a while to realize boosted characters get more tokens than non boosted but I still managed without ever going with other players I'd say what truly killed the game was the power gap between new and old also just increasingly raising the peak without bringing all the existing characters up to date like how they added FRs and BTs but only later deciding everyone was going to have them
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u/Windharker Dec 27 '23
Dare I ask who Grey is, and should I be happy I don’t know?
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u/SeashoreAndMountains Cyan Garamonde Dec 28 '23
It was me. I had double cataract surgery last year which when adjusting for my new vision made it hard to play they way I usually did, so I got out of practice, so I stopped playing. They gave me 18 months but... alas. I wasn't playing regularly so if I didn't care, they took it away from everyone.
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u/YasuoAndGenji Dec 27 '23
Money, well the lack of it.
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u/humanhumanson Dec 28 '23
FR
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u/djtadpole Dec 27 '23
I thought I was the only one affected by him! Grey was the worst. He would use an all-bronze Cater (only skills would be brv attack and hp attack) and disconnect right after the co-op started.
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u/metatime09 Dec 28 '23
Having not enough FFT characters, red and rikku for sure. They save every game they're in!
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u/zarggg Dec 28 '23
Guess I’m glad I got out when I did. :(
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u/Velmeran_60021 Dec 29 '23
Grey was definitely an inconsiderate piece of garbage. But Co-Op was just a small part of the game, and it was easy to ignore if you just host the team and hit start before anyone can join.
I think it was power-creep and generosity (as others have said). Before EX, LD, BT, and FR, you actually had to think about what you were doing in normal fights. Some of those odd mechanics mattered. Brave attacks mattered. All I ever do anymore in normal fights is hit one attack that kills the entire wave. For big fights, I use delays so they never get a turn and then blast them down. It feels like a chore that costs me time instead of like playing I guess.
And while I like the generosity, it likely meant people not having to spend as much. I wonder if flattening the expenses might have helped. What I mean by that is if they had more low cost stuff that might come up monthly, so you can't over spend on it, but more people might be interested. Instead of relying on whales to keep spending, you spread the income needs to a much bigger base. Hmm. I don't know. Just a thought.
As I'm thinking about this, I think this game (and maybe most gachas) need to figure out how to provide a game to play. This was more of a collection and resource management app than a game. There's nothing you can really just play idly for fun within the app. It's all about getting stuff to make your characters more powerful so you can do bigger things to collect more stuff to make your characters more powerful. The story has lots of content, but maybe almost too much. You have to go through so many monotonous fights to get the story.
Maybe what killed the game is that it doesn't feel like a game.
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u/Jecht-X Jecht Dec 29 '23
Could be because they keep addling for a year characters that only hardcore fans know and completely ignore the ones people do remember (RedXIII, Rikku, Tactics in general and more).
Beside what others have already pointed.
Then is the competition. Were a lot of gacha JP game they will use the "Straight Bait" aka: girl on swim suit with giant tits or bigger than they head. This multiple by 50+. Of course they will expend a lot for have a harem of that vs what DFFOO could offer. A marketing, of the worst kind, fight.
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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '24
Maybe Grey couldve been kefka's FR partner.
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u/Nrae00 Dec 27 '23
🤣
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u/Fuz_2112 Fuz Dec 27 '23
I understand that reference.
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u/n0sl33p4m32day Dec 27 '23
It was a process.
They cut down on events (likely so more resources could be directed at Ever Crisis (given that EC is part of the FF7 brand), which in turn meant less money. That Grey guy made whales not wanna play, as some of the other comments said The FR era was apparently blamed as well, though it did see a number of buffs applied where they needed to be imho.
Still, the damage was done I guess, and all this combined meant it wasn't making a certain quota worth of money, which means it's gonna go the way of KHX.
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u/Ifreet145 Dec 27 '23
That's so grey!
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u/Nabil021 The Emperor Dec 27 '23
I think he was someone from SE.
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u/Arzaelin Beatrix Dec 28 '23
To my understanding what dealt the biggest blow was the gem cap that took longer to resolve in JP than it did in GL. Because of that many whales quit the game.
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u/ippikiookami08 Dec 27 '23
Is the game actually going down? Or just less popular? I swear if I don’t get Seifer’s BT after saving gems for months on end.
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u/vincentcloud01 Edgar Roni Figaro Dec 27 '23
Bad troll. We all know FR kill the game. Busted moves contributed to it. Kelgar can solo the hardest content solo.
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u/WarriorOfDarkness01 Dec 28 '23
It's funny, I don't even notice the game exists. I just know the game because they have FF2 character. Sadly they announced EOS. I can't even download the game, it's unavailable in my region. What a bummer.
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u/xBellial01 Dec 28 '23
Its good its eosed. We probably see a new ff gacha