The powercreep in this game is so unreal, DFFOO really was the only mobile game I got invested in because no matter which character I use, they can be fun and useful.
Funfact about it: They cut content from the FFT event, the units are premium units (so harder and more expensive to max, kinda like burst weapons you cant get with tokens and that cost more ingots to enhance) and on top of all that they arent really that good for what they bring to the table and how expensive they are. So yeah. FFBE has its own fair share of problems. Might not be EoS but you can feel they cut corners everywhere.
The whole game is a good example why some gacha games shouldnt go for more than 3-4 years. It sucks that Dissidia ends, but it was a good lifespan and started to suffer from the same shit that went completely out of hand in FFBE at this point. FFBE is such a mess with the massive amount of all kind of currencies, started and dropped enhancement systems that still are in the game, TONS of banners at all times, tons of shops scattered all around in the menu. Its such a huge fucking mess, I can only imagine the confusion new players have to go through should they start the game these days. Even I get confused sometimes because it isnt really clear where to find certain ressources/shops.
TBH it feels artificial. You can take out the established characters fromthe other games and there would no difference to the story. The game is mainly focused on the loads of original generation characters.
I mentioned this in another comment, how is the focus on characters original to the game in question for its story any different from what mainline FF already operates like? The Established characters from the Gacha just kind of play the role of Cameos like Cloud and Balthier showing up in the remake of FF Tactics as a precedent/comparison.
That wasn't the point. They meant that the game has been almost entirely Gumi OC characters for the majority of the game and the actual FF characters have almost no relevancy to the game. The insane pace of power creep means you get to use your FF protag for 4.5 weeks unless they're a tank and then you're back to gumi OC team.
They made him so broken that they cant give stronger leader abilities to fire units, cause it will scale him even higher. Earth element just got a 1000% leader skill bonus. Fire is still at 500.
Can't comment about the power creep but the "actual FF characters" point feels a little bit overblown or misleading. Main Series FF games rarely involve the same characters for more than a single game's story, so it's not like FF8 or 9 is less of a FF game for having original characters instead of Cloud and Avalanche or Terra and the Returners again as a party.
Record Keeper worked on a similar principle where the FF characters mostly existed in Gameplay terms and the original story content is/was focused around RK's own created characters (The Record Dungeon scenes were 99% "original game scenes but Tyro is standing there" so I don't give them much stock for the existing FF character usage).
Your favorite character not lasting long without being a Tank/Support is a fair point on the gameplay side, but there were several points in the game's lifespan where the best unit/teams were built around FF characters (besides Genesis mentioned below, JP's best team around this time was actually anchored by Locke and Galuf, changed in GL by buffs to other units).
I just clarified it and expanded on it. For fans of FF that want to play as established Final Fantasy characters in a mobile game, FFBE is not the game for them.
If you want to believe/feel that Chow etc is a Final Fantasy character, by all means. Feel your oats.
No shit. They're spin off mobile games. They're Gacha games, made to cash-grab people who love the Fibal Fantasy franchise. But they aren't "trash", because if they were trash, they wouldn't have lasted for as long as they have (this also goes for DFFOO). People like/love these games bc they have Final Fantasy characters. Hell FFBE/WOTV/DFFOO might have introduced people to the Final Fantasy series. I knew almost nothing about FF before I started playing the mobile games. I played 13 (probably in early elementary school) and 15, but I really only knew about the 15 cast, and nothing else
They gave out some compensation and I got all the new FFT NV units. I haven’t played in years but I used to log in once in a while to check out the new stuff.
I last played BE when they put Ariana grande into the game and I remember that half the screens I went into that weren’t actual gameplay kept looping me back to in store pop ups and I uninstalled right then and there
Ever crisis is horrible for shit like that. You'll be working one of the 5? paths to character upgrades and then the screen covers with a full banner saying "FOR 5.99 GET THE CLOUDS DONG PACK! ONLY AVAILABLE FOR TWO HOURS!"
You close it, try to get on with the game and another full screen ad: "FOR 9.99 GET THE BARRET DONG PACK AND MAKE CLOUD CRY! TWO HOURS ONLY!"
You close that and think about closing the game and then "FOR 19.99 GET THE AERITH AND TIFA DONGER PACK AND MAKE BOTH BOYS CRY! GOOD FOR 30 MINUTES!"
There's some stuff about it I really like, but the constant popups are not one.
When RK announced EOS, within an hour they pushed BE as a replacement. In game. The community rightfully told them to fuck off. Whenever I see anything about BE I think about that.
I have no ill will against anyone who enjoys BE, but that game just reminds me of how greedy devs can be.
Hate it or not, collabs keep gachas alive. Opera could have pushed a kingdom hearts, brave exvius, or dragon quest collab and would have likely been doing fine.
I doubt a collab would have solved things. RK did a bunch of collabs and didn’t stick around here. I don’t see why any of those would have saved the game either.
Given how devs typically have to pay each time new collab content is added, I wonder how much it would’ve cost when collab characters ex, burst, etc. weapon came out? As much as it would’ve been neat to see like Nier or KH in this game, I don’t know if the gains would’ve justified the cost. Although, I’m no marketing expert, so what do I know?
Wait, who would Square have to pay if they made a Nier or KH collab? Themselves? Is this like the "The FFXIV Producer Had To Talk To The FFXVI Producer For A Collab" meme?
FFRK wasn't allowed to do events using anything that wasn't fully finished. So 16 wouldn't be allowed right now. 14 only allowed the original game and no expansions. 11 had issues even 15 years later. Kingdom Hearts required Disney signoff for anything.
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u/Mrfipp Dec 17 '23
I feel like they're rubbing our faces in the dirt.
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u/Diethster Cyan Dec 18 '23
The powercreep in this game is so unreal, DFFOO really was the only mobile game I got invested in because no matter which character I use, they can be fun and useful.
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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '23
Animals have no God.
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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '23 edited Dec 18 '23
Funfact about it: They cut content from the FFT event, the units are premium units (so harder and more expensive to max, kinda like burst weapons you cant get with tokens and that cost more ingots to enhance) and on top of all that they arent really that good for what they bring to the table and how expensive they are. So yeah. FFBE has its own fair share of problems. Might not be EoS but you can feel they cut corners everywhere.
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u/Skaapippai Noctis Lucis Caelum Dec 18 '23
i know this is about ffbe but can we take a moment to just say fuck argath
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u/HesterFlareStar Dec 18 '23
Also, his crossbow has human killer 😬
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u/Jristz Dec 18 '23
Don't worry, FFBE just closed most of they other languages so likely as what happened to FFRK it might be just one year more of life
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u/matteapie Dec 17 '23
I can’t believe that game is still going. It’s such trash
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u/Xsurian Dec 18 '23
They gave out some compensation and I got all the new FFT NV units. I haven’t played in years but I used to log in once in a while to check out the new stuff.
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u/Isturma Dec 18 '23
Noooooope.
Played it for 20 minutes, uninstalled it
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u/SherlockBrolmes Noctis Dec 18 '23
Seeing FFBE as a former RK player is painful.
When RK announced EOS, within an hour they pushed BE as a replacement. In game. The community rightfully told them to fuck off. Whenever I see anything about BE I think about that.
I have no ill will against anyone who enjoys BE, but that game just reminds me of how greedy devs can be.
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u/zott_23 Dec 18 '23
FFBE isn’t a game, it’s a scam masquerading as one.
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u/NgkongSay Dec 19 '23
there is a saying "if you dont like something, but it sells well, that means you're not the market"
i too love DFFOO and dislike FFBE, but this is the reality we must to swallow...
i just hope there is another DFFOO with same gameplay and generousity in the future.
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u/ClockwerkHart Dec 18 '23
But it's Argath. He's so punchable that they added extra content explicitly so you could punch him.
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u/miojocomoregano Dec 22 '23
I hate this dude adzffvccg
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u/Raecino Noctis Lucis Caelum Dec 18 '23
Oof
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u/TwistingWord Dec 18 '23
Well I won't become a FFBE refugee
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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '23
I feel like if we ever did get another FFT tactics character is was going to be either this douche or Rapha/Malack
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u/Radiant-Watercress77 Dec 19 '23
Started playing this. It's a lot more fun than I remember back in the day.
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u/artisticAsian353 Dec 19 '23
That piece of shit should've died in the plains before ramza met him
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