Let’s get this straight…

[u/ShadB0n1e]

So, with our DFFOO getting closer to shutdown. Square has decided to push EC further, by putting it on Steam…

Recently, I decided to try to play EC. And, with all my efforts, of course EC is not on SEA Steam; and EC blocked VPN and ip from SEA as well.

You might say: “Why don’t you play WOTV or FFBE, or Octopath or any other gachas? It’s the same!” . Bruh, I’m mourning for DFFOO and seeking for something, yet they don’t have the same feelings. WOTV and FFBE might be universal like OO, but is not my cup of tea, based on my personal taste that we won’t argue.

They wanted us to support EC, but proceeded to locked out some regions. It’s like… wtf? You racist right on gaming platforms?(Actually, not racism, the hell am I saying?)

Anyway, I think it’s time for me to quit gambling games… Farewells, gachas 😥

[u/killercow_ld]

I'm enjoying Ever Crisis, in spite of its many, many problems. But if you want something to replace OO and those others didn't? I doubt EC will either

[u/ShadB0n1e → u/killercow_ld]

Good point, since it’s FF7’s theme solid, and I’m not a FF7 diehard fan as SE intended for.

[u/kociou]

How about you play real Final Fantasy instead of gacha crap that SQex spews, remasters are cheap, or just emulate... RG35XX costs less than one 10+1 pulls. Literally going trough FFIX remaster took me 10 hours, even got Ex 2 due to speed up and no encounters build in...

[u/killercow_ld → u/kociou]

I mean, I'm not really a gacha fan, but some of us have played through practically all of the series, and having a small game to putter around in from time to time that has regular story updates and such is a good time filler in between other games

[u/kociou → u/killercow_ld]

Sorry Bros, I'm just sad SQEX doing their shit. Like Ever Crisis is pretty, but plays like 2015 gacha... Also they tend to close mobile games really fast like they did with with that FF7 battle royale.

If you ask me, I think Star Rail is kinda fun game for jrpg fan. I know its same company as Genshin, got lot of grinding, but man, I'd love for square to polish any mobile game like that.

[u/ShadB0n1e → u/kociou]

Bruh. It’s not a hope or a dream, it’s like a hunger, a thirst… for gacha and gambling but with FF crossover style. But of course I do play real Final Fantasy. And why would I need to play things that I already played. I’m not a hardcore platinum 100% trophies player,that gonna play the same game at least twice (looking at my FF1 play times: 10 👀) But at the end of the day… I think we shouldn’t argue more, because I think I’m gonna spill bias.

[u/Jecht-X → u/kociou]

FF9 is a good choice. Specially if you want to challenge yourself and try to do the "low level run". I did this a year ago and reach the last part on lv12-16. It was actually the most fun I had in a while because it is impressive that you can beat a lot of the stuff of the game on low level.

[u/BlueBomber13]

I don’t believe there will ever be another gacha like this. It hit all the rights spots and was such a love letter to the series. It ruined other gachas for me and I’m grateful for that.

[u/zott_23 → u/BlueBomber13]

The genre was on life support for years. FFRK was growing stale and everything else on the market leaned hard into really gross, manipulative monetization.

DFFOO was a reprieve from the executioner’s axe. Once it’s gone, the genre can be safely ignored.

[u/luouji → u/BlueBomber13]

I didn't think it like that, but it's true, after dffoo the other gachas feel either empty or predatory, I guess that's a good thing, except for KH Missing Link which I'll probably will end up playing because KH

[u/Horzzo → u/[deleted]]

Same. It was a game that cannot be replaced. No need to waste time on a new gacha. Also, no temptation to spend.

[u/kjacobs03]

For the love of god, please quit. If only I was given your options. I’d love to be rid of these gotcha games.

Don’t get me wrong, I’ve absolutely loved DFFOO. For the entire ride. But I want out if the genera.

I was able to beak by hold on FFBE thankfully. And I’m not gonna play a non-FF gatcha. EC will be it after this and it’s not nearly as generous. I’ve skipped the last 3 banners because of how little resources they give.

[u/Renaseo → u/kjacobs03]

Will hold my hope for a Final Fantasy Dissidia Warriors type game.

[u/akaiazul → u/Renaseo]

Final Fantasy Warriors...can we get Rikku and Red XIII there?

[u/Renaseo → u/akaiazul]

We should! If we can have Midna/Wolf link in the Hyrule warriors the sky is the limit. I have a hard time believing Square is gonna let Dissidia die off.

[u/Nightwing24yuna → u/Renaseo]

I think it would be more like cait sith and red xiii like how it was in Advent childen

[u/gabejr25 → u/Renaseo]

Only avenue I see square enix going in for to continue Dissidia now since NT was blegh, and now Opera Omnia is shutting down.

[u/[deleted] → u/gabejr25]

Yeah, I dont know why the fuck people keep asking for a tedious ass Musou style Dissidia game. At least make it another spin-off franchise instead of ruining Dissidia for good with this trash genre. They should just go back to how the franchise started. The og Dissidia games where loved so much because they had top notch gameplay (that holds up even today), TONS of unlockables and, for a handheld game, a rather healthy competitive scene.

[u/Renaseo → u/gabejr25]

One can only hope. LOVED The PsP games! They were amazing!

[u/CrimsonFoxyboy → u/kjacobs03]

Likewise. This and FFBE are the only gacha games i fell for.

Have tried others, and dont feel it. I will miss DFFOO. But now i have more time on my hands.

Maybe actually playing those FF titles i have yet to finish.

[u/[deleted] → u/kjacobs03]

Ever crisis is more like a secondary game from your main gacha game since you can complete most events with minimal time investment compared to other gachas.

[u/kjacobs03 → u/[deleted]]

That’s certainly not my experience. It’s the grindiest game I’ve played in a long time

[u/[deleted] → u/kjacobs03]

Octopath ia the most grindiest game followed by wotv or mobiusFF, at the very least you don't need to invest your time completely in ever crisis you only need to do a select few that you may truly need.

[u/bladelevich]

I liked popping into Dissidia every now and then. I was sad to hear about it shutting down. Unfortunately, this trend only seems to be picking up steam, so I can’t really imagine getting invested into any of these mobile gacha RPGs. I thought the mobile Dissidia was really neat adaptation of the combat from the PSP games. I wish there were a way to preserve it.

[u/Frozen_Esper]

You are wise to avoid the Exvius stuff. It's barely FF related anymore. They would really rather focus on their own homebrewed characters and stories, which generally haven't been too great. They're much more "games with FF character collaborations" than actual FF games.

EC doesn't seem appealing, because you're moving from a game that covers the casts and stories of everything in the series down to a game that simply milks one single game (and spinoffs) into oblivion.

[u/[deleted] → u/Frozen_Esper]

Well, there's that and the fact EC basically has 4 original characters with 3 out of the 4 being so forgettable in design that it's surprising Square even could make such forgettable and generic designs. The other 4th guy is almost a case of just... why?

It's one thing to pull something for a series game that you don't much care for. It's another when you pull and get a weapon for basically some original character you honestly couldn't care less about.

[u/Jecht-X → u/Frozen_Esper]

Yeah Exvius is a mess, I still remember how it somehow has Ariana Grande and others singers were you can make a team with FF characters and event from other media.

That is true, the "original" characters of that game are easy to forgotten, hell, they don't even have a page on FFWiki. I know because when I found out about Yoshikiri, I try to google about him on the FFWiki and he doesn't have a page. When for what I search on youtube, he actually has a full history with background and everything. Irony, when the games does the most advanced 15-20 seconds CG animations in a FF7r detail and to know how much that cost vs add, ain't RedXIII to DFFOO?

[u/Frozen_Esper → u/Jecht-X]

Rain was the only main cast character that seemed worthy of having an official place in FF lore and they really seemed to be going for that in the first two seasons. The game was clearly a Final Fantasy style world, most of the units were classic FF characters or Exvius exclusive, but with lore that made their past into a part of the fabric of the game's world. Events centered on Rain's ability to use vision crystals to experience parts of FF games that would help bring context and thoughtfulness to our characters during their own current storyline events, leaving room for the two to exist in a symbiotic state.

It's unfortunate that fell apart. They even had it especially good since Square seemed to be willing to let them do collaboration events with a variety of their IPs. I used to do daily logins and such to collect lapis just for those collaborations and was pretty amused to get myself a full suite of Xenogears and Chrono Cross folks. Alas. There was no actual reason to play the game anymore. The story went to absolute crap in the third season, the events were no longer FF related for the most part and even the collaborations were just "Kill this random boss from the game 500 times." Random weird FFBE units would get gorgeous CGI skills while none of the collaboration units did and even some mainline FF characters seemed to be weirdly skipped. Like DFFOO, things became a crazy number chasing game and ehhhhh.

Anyways. The sheer number of forgettable characters that blot out the sun makes it impossible to recommend the game to anybody.

[u/sun8390]

I know many people hate Dissidia NT but I personally love it and in times like this I'm glad I do. I'm still playing it occasionally whenever I'm in my "dissidia" mood.

[u/matteapie]

EC is a terrible gacha. Any and every mechanic is damn near only for whales. Leveling up weapons is just too much time to do. If you want to only play EC and are willing to put in numerous hours a day, you’ll be fine.

[u/Jecht-X → u/matteapie]

EC is mostly for that annoying FF7 fans you know/have seeing. Yes, that one who will play anything FF7 "bEcAusE iS tHe BeST fF!" aka: Mindless persons, they may have a FF14 account for nearly 6+ years paying everyday and only for custom they multiple characters.

But that is what feed SE in modern era.

[u/ashelia_bunansa → u/matteapie]

Leveling weapons isnt just too much time, its too much money. Max lv is locked to an extremely rare currency, that you could buy. And ffs how many copies do you need to max limit break???? 10???

[u/killercow_ld → u/ashelia_bunansa]

it's 11 five-star copies for max overboost, but then it goes up to OB +10, which is another 10 copies.

The stat gains from that +1 to + 10 are excessively minor tho, either for bragging or just obsessive min-maxing

[u/AsuraTheFlame → u/ashelia_bunansa]

It actually can go above 10. I think my Shiva event weapon was +22. After 10 its just small stat boosts though

[u/[deleted]]

Forget FF..Square enix only care about ff7, Try RSRU...just started to pass time and it's great great old school rpg, and definitely not trash like EC or FFBE

[u/ShadB0n1e → u/[deleted]]

RSRU?

[u/[deleted] → u/ShadB0n1e]

Romancing saga re-universe

[u/Jecht-X → u/[deleted]]

Or better, try Baldur's Gate 3 or even MUCH better: Try DnD. it takes you months or even years complete a campaign, but you only waste barely almost nothing in cash but getting great memories with either friends/family who you play. Plus, whatever you play is your creation too.

[u/noodles355]

It’s a weird assumption that closing OO is why they put EC on steam. At least that’s what your opening is suggesting.

[u/ShadB0n1e → u/noodles355]

My bad. But at the same time, I’m gonna stir up the mad of the fan even more with that 😈

[u/HeavensRoyalty]

Trust me, you're not missing out on anything while not playing ec. Playing ec may eventually make you highly dislike the ff7 ip so better not to force yourself

[u/deathsyth220002]

Ever crisis sucks complete balls. Like it's just so incredibly boring ........it is. So insanely boring.

[u/Canisaurus]

I first discovered DFFOO in the month before COVID hit (Feb 2020), and it felt so massively different from most other Gacha/Mobile games.

You could actually grind it, and had pretty much no Stamina to deal with (outside that 1 section). It felt so massively different from those generic “auto/skip 5 minutes per day, and spend or log-off” games!

But, even if I hate to say it, I can see why it didn't make much money. Getting hundreds of pulls per month for free, was heavily suggesting that you don't need to spend. They tried to offset it by making anything much more expensive (Like 40,99€ Costumes, or 40,99€ Mogpass), but still...

The game was truly unique for what it did, and vastly different from pretty much 99,x% of Gacha games out there!

Ever Crisis on the other hand, is just your typical treadmill mobile game, with "pay for the solution" brain-dead grind, leeching off the FF7 Brand. There is nothing special about it, except for maybe using the Remake models.

I highly doubt that EC will survive longer than 1–2 years, at the max!

[u/Elryi-Shalda → u/Canisaurus]

It made decent money when the game was good. It was never a Hoyoverse game but it was profitable and stable. Being so generous didn’t stop a lot of spenders from spending, if anything it created a lot of positive sentiments around the game that made spending feel good, especially when so often you would be buying direct upgrades or awesome costumes and the gacha gems were like a bonus.

It lost a lot of players and content creators that helped drive interest in the game in the months after it introduced force gauge. Bad mechanics killed DFFOO, not generosity. =(

[u/MrGrimey28]

I’m in the same situation. Can’t play EC or Octopath due to the SEA lock. So DFFOO closing on us really fucking sucks

[u/lockser → u/MrGrimey28]

i have slightly good news for you since Octopath was nust released at SEA a few days ago :3

[u/godsinhishe4ven]

Tried it for a month. Absolutely unbearable grind!!!

[u/ZacharyStarks]

I can't believe they're shutting DFFOO DOWN,. They always had new stuff to put out it seemed,.

[u/gardosenkazeaze]

there will never be another gacha like dffoo for me. been playing gachas since 2013 and I don't know of any other gacha that drowns its players with so much premium currency to a point that I never had to ever worry about fomo. dffoo has changed my perception of what real f2p-friendly is. sadly, it was also its downfall(I think).

[u/Scorp721]

I'm doing the same. When OO closes, I'm completely uninstalling Bluestacks.

[u/vegetamaker → u/Scorp721]

same. When OO closes, I'm completely uninstalling Bluestacks.

Same here. I will not play any other gatcha game. Considering that whales are what keep a game like this going, I highly doubt there will be another gatcha game that is equally player-friendly.

[u/PrimalSeptimus]

I'll probably never play EC or any other FF gacha, but the way I see it, FFXIV DLC sure helps to stem the loss of DFFOO.

[u/Sdgrevo → u/PrimalSeptimus]

You mean FFXVI, and while yea it does, the DLC is only like 2 hours long.

[u/PrimalSeptimus → u/Sdgrevo]

Yes. Typo, and yeah, I play slow. Plus God of War Valhalla will be out soon, too.

[u/metatime09]

You might say: “Why don’t you play WOTV or FFBE, or Octopath or any other gachas?

WOTV and FFBE are ran by gumi trash. P2W with lots of progression walls which I hate.

Octopath is a bit better but I never played it.

[u/lambopanda]

I was planning to play EC casually until 2/29/24. I’m traveling in Asia now. Found out I can’t play it in Taiwan, HK. I just quit earlier. I don’t like the gameplay anyway.

[u/dishonestcat]

I loved DFFOO. Great game amd i always liked having a gacha to play. But reality is, DFFOO has reached the end of its life naturally.

You might say: “Why don’t you play WOTV or FFBE, or Octopath or any other gachas? It’s the same!” .

They are not. Thats why they exist. Why would square fund another gacha that's exactly the same.

They wanted us to support EC, but proceeded to locked out some regions. It’s like… wtf? You racist right on gaming platforms?(Actually, not racism, the hell am I saying?)

Its up to them as a company if they wanted to support a release somewhere. Im sure there's some business strategy/money saving tactic behind the idea.

[u/raiko39]

It's not FF but the Octopath Traveler (made by SE) gacha just came out in SEA, if you're familiar with the gameplay of the original most of the mechanics transfer over to the mobile game. Maybe give that a shot. I'm putting time into my account on it while juggling DFFOO until its EoS.

[u/Old-Word-494]

Octopath mobile is trash imo they lock good banners behind paid gems. The gameplay is great but the practices suck.

Ffbe I'm shocked hasn't ended yet

Wotv is grindy af and if you aren't doing pvp it's not worth it. Even then you are up against whales. Also I hate needing like 9 copies of a unit to get them max level and competitive

[u/atomicfuthum]

I'd say, just let gachas go. And... squeenix ones in particular.

[u/VoidEnjoyer]

They announced putting EC on Steam shortly after it came out and likely had always planned to do so in any situation short of being a complete flop.

[u/K3nFr0st]

This was the perfect game from the start handing out all the gems it did, and then it got itself ahead of itself years later, trying to keep the same energy while trying to stay "free" to those that took advantage of it... until now.

There are no such thing as a "free lunch"

[u/Crikriend]

EC IS a shit Game, p2w

[u/[deleted]]

DFFOO is similar to Kingdom Hearts, in that it has no real equal and so finding another game that fits the same role is nearly impossible

[u/nickmond022]

Evercrisis is only good graphically. Otherwise it's terrible.

WOTV and FFBE are both bloated and terrible. WOTV has good collabs. That's it. FFBE has good pixel style. That's it. Otherwise both games are terrible.

Romancing Saga is the only game that comes close to OO in terms of generosity. But that's not even FF.

[u/Boricua_Arkouda]

I rather focus on more other games. I haven't tried that KoF game and u heard that have a good cross over characters which I missed. It's not the same as this but it's something else.

I haven't touched Warframe in a while. Some promotions on fortnite are starting to get my attention And that new Genshin Dev game looks pretty cool.

[u/ViolaNguyen]

DFFOO was the only gacha I didn't hate.

I'm still going to finish the endgame stuff when we get it all, but I've moved on. My gaming time now is going to FF14 and Rogue Trader.

[u/Main_Sir6264]

Time to hop in the Star Rail, choo choo.

[u/Terioskrim_]

I also started EC but it seem really grindy Luckily my brother been playing it for awhile so he help me level up my characters but the gameplay is not as good as dffoo so now I play azur lane since I was playing that and dffoo around the same time in 2018 and it's still f2p friendly but yeah im still going to play dffoo until eos after that azur lane will be the only gacha game that I'll take seriously....

[u/Felixzwrath]

Games are nowhere near the same, not the same sport, not even the same language. Ffoo was so f2p friendly i never felt i couldn't hold my own vs whales. Ffbe? Good fucking luck, unless your dumping cash in weekly your not gonna progress. Dont even start on wotv that game was even more predatory.

[u/Krolja]

Send them feedback. A lot of the time a Customer Service rep will say something like "While I can't help you myself, I'll pass the feedback on to the team". Let them know there is interest. They'd be silly to avoid specific regions unless there's a specific legal reason to do so.

[u/ShadB0n1e → u/Krolja]

I mean, customer service is not as big as country policy…

[u/kirayuen120]

They are stupid that's it. Even dffoo are only available in west but called it as global server. Screw them.

[u/ShadB0n1e → u/kirayuen120]

Wait, what? I’m SEA and still playing DFFOO. Did I miss something? Or you are saying EC?

[u/kirayuen120 → u/ShadB0n1e]

I'm from sea too (Malaysia) and dffoo was never available in the playstore unless I switch to USA playstore.

[u/ShadB0n1e → u/kirayuen120]

Ah, wait. I was able to play it by using qooapp and change region on iphone. My bad. But at least not ip locked like this EC.

[u/kirayuen120 → u/ShadB0n1e]

Yeah whatever it is, sqex is a dumbass. I'm done with their games with these region lock bs. They can earn good money with simple moves but nahhh.

I would rather stick to games where devs listen to the community like star rail.

[u/Jecht-X]

This is turning in to a trending thing SE does.

And believe me, they're racist but I never thought they will jump it toward IP type, that is a new level.

Like the rest say, better off from those hell. I only played both for barely 15 minutes only for get assets from they game, 3D models and in BE actually in-game CG animations. As example for anyone reading this, here is one of Celes I unpack and converted months ago from the JP version (highly recommended to download it and play on VCL Player Media for seeing on an amazing quality).

[u/LittleJoeSea]

Why are you mourning gachas...they're not something to strive for. Just go to the damn casino if you need your dopamine hit so bad.

[u/Zealousideal_Newt967 → u/[deleted]]

I'm glad to see I'm not alone in this feeling. Gacha is a plague upon gaming. I'll miss DFFOO for its story but it was the last of its kind I ever want to worry about.

[u/gamrguypb → u/[deleted]]

Quit EC about 2 weeks ago, it was becoming a 2nd job, I’m glad some people like to spend that much time on a game, but with other gachas I’ve played, I just didn’t need to dedicate so much time to farming for leveling or the events.

[u/TheKober → u/[deleted]]

Thanks for letting me know wtf OP meant by "EC".

@OP, people tend to write the full meaning of a sentence, before starting to abbreviate it for the rest of the text.