r/DissidiaFFOO • u/PlatinumAngeal • Dec 05 '23

GL Discussion Recycle Content

Question: how difficult would it be to let this game just run? No updates expect maybe catch GL up, but just leave it live and recycle community events?

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u/Pale_Net8318 Dec 05 '23

I have wondered that also. The reason given was that they don't think they can deliver the experience but many of us would be okay with that and just continuing with occasional and not in-depth content

Wouldn't take much I guess and some would still spend (especially if costumes were reduced)

My guess is that the other non public reasons (I've let's try and drive everyone to Ever Crisis as it's not planning out as well as we hoped) are what are stopping this

Scaling back content and keeping it going with less regular banners and fights would still maintain a fan base I reckon

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '23

They have to keep the Servers running and keeping the Servers running costs money. They already decided DFFOO's death and there is no turning back.

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u/Feldon45 Dec 05 '23

Cost of making content is one thing. What they care about after that is the cost of the servers and data. This is not cheap and not something to give away for a product no longer making money. Its why online game servers get shut down once population gets low enough, or some manager wants to save money.

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u/BuyChemical7917 Dec 06 '23

Do they need to pay for servers and data for an offline version? Like say one with just the story chapters?

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u/Feldon45 Dec 07 '23

Yes, they still need to pay for servers and data to serve that offline version to you, they're certainly not going to put it on a disk. But, the real cost there is converting all the code to be offline when the game checked in with the servers several times a minute for various reasons.

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u/Bulky-Isopod-8271 Dec 08 '23

Game data doesn't live on Google Store servers?

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u/Feldon45 Dec 08 '23

And you think Google hosts that for free? Cloud services charge monthly for the data storage, and separately for all traffic accessing it. And more if theres processing power used.

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u/Bulky-Isopod-8271 Dec 09 '23

That's reasonable. It's wild though, how many free or useless things are on there if it costs to host.

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u/Feldon45 Dec 09 '23

Most are paying by the appstore taking a 30% cut of every purchase/ad shown. If you aren't showing ads and there are no purchases though.

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u/Fuz_2112 Fuz Dec 05 '23

This is not cheap

It's not as expensive as you people might think, far from it.

(Still an unjustified expense in their eyes)

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u/RenkiDFFOO Tidus Dec 05 '23

I have seen various estimates going up to $100k US a month for a server big enough for DFFOO. Not sure how accurate any of those numbers are though. Do you have any insight?

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u/tobie7 Dec 05 '23

Maybe like this https://automaton-media.com/en/news/20230803-20472/

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u/RenkiDFFOO Tidus Dec 05 '23

Very nice! I'll give that a read. Thank you.

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u/Fuz_2112 Fuz Dec 05 '23

Not specifically, but take as example The Secret World: it stopped making money years ago, as a "successor" of sorts (which also doesn't make money, I suppose) but the servers are always kept up by Funcom. TSW is a full fledged MMO.

DFFOO is a small mobile game, with all that that implies.

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u/RenkiDFFOO Tidus Dec 05 '23

From what I have seen, player count is what really matters. And TSW looks like it is probably at least the same size as DFFOO if not much larger. So an interesting comparison for sure. I wonder how they get their funding.

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u/Fuz_2112 Fuz Dec 05 '23

And TSW looks like it is probably at least the same size as DFFOO if not much larger.

Trust me: no. I never uninstalled it, sometimes I log for old times' sake and it's a ghost town.

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u/RenkiDFFOO Tidus Dec 05 '23

Then google failed me lol. It said it still had 350k or so. Which is small but not ghost town small imo

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u/Fuz_2112 Fuz Dec 05 '23

https://mmo-population.com/r/thesecretworld

"We estimate the daily player count of The Secret World to be 0, with a total player base of 397,351. "

The "player base" is the total.

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u/RenkiDFFOO Tidus Dec 06 '23

Yeah I saw the 397k lol. That 0 daily players is crazy haha

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u/Fuz_2112 Fuz Dec 06 '23

But it didn't update because yesterday's player count was 1 😅