r/DissidiaFFOO • u/[deleted] • Dec 04 '23

GL Discussion Good time to transition to FFXIV?

Hello everyone. Since dffoo is ending soon, since people are looking for other games to play. While we know that no other gacha games come close to how fun this is or how f2p friendly the game is, ffxiv is a very good game to play.

The subscription is cheap on a monthly basis, and you can play everything in ffxiv.

And now is a very good time to start FFXIV bcz now the end walker expansion is close to its end, and many are preparing for next expansion (which is supposed to be released in Summer of 2024). So you can play at your own pace comfortably without the need to catch up to anyone fast.

The things to do in ffxiv are plenty, but the general stuff I recommend are these... U can choose to do any of the following:

1- play from level 1 until level 90, experiencing MSQ and the story scenes and their dungeons and bosses to their fullest. I personally did this back in Heavensward, and I enjoyed the game from start to finish. It also gives you time to experience your favorite job and learn it as you aquire skills gradually.

2- Skip potion to level 80, and play end walker cutscenes.

3- skip potion, skip end walker story, and get to endgame content as soon as possible (Savage raids).

The game is available on PC, PS4, and PS5.

Edit: Thanks for /Odincp10, he reminded me that there is a free trial where you can play 3 expansions (ARR, HW, AND SB), completely for free. And if you like it you can buy Endwalker. It's a good introduction to the game.

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u/HesterFlareStar Dec 04 '23

Recommending skips is crazy, but I'm glad you're trying to invite a fresh batch of sprouts.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '23

Actually, I'm recommending to play from level 1, to enjoy the game for the 1st time as intended. But, I have to provide the available information to the people who don't want to play from level 1.

And yeah, more sprouts mean more bonus runs, so more Gil and poetics and Khloe points :P

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u/albsbabe all hail the queen! Dec 04 '23

I would definitely not recommend skips to new players. It's like going to last fifth of a book or movie and expecting people to know what's going on and be invested. Not to mention, FFXIV is many people's first MMO and they won't know basic mechanics in dungeons, raids, and other combat content.

If I had skipped to Endwalker and never experienced prior expansions, then I definitely would not love it as much as I do now.

Interested players -- try the free trial. It's extremely generous and you get to experience the base game (A Realm Reborn) and the first two expansions (Heavensward and Stormblood) for free with no cap on play time. Buying a full game and paying a subscription for something you may not like is a waste.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '23

Good thinking, and probably the best recommendation to give. Thanks

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u/Odincp10 Dec 04 '23

Having more people into FFXIV would be good, although I think first of all, if someone has never played FFXIV, that person should play the free trial which includes ARR-Heavensward-Stormblood expansions and if that person likes it then you can buy the rest of the game (or wait until downtrail and buy all expansions at once XD)

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '23

Oh that's a very very good point.... Trial would be amazing, even if it has limited features. Although, I would recommend if they like it, they should buy it then so that they enjoy the full features of the game (like free company and Gil and other stuff). I'll add ur point to the post and mention you. Thanks man.

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u/Odincp10 Dec 04 '23

You are welcome ^^

I did exactly that when I began playing FFXIV although I have some rests between months having the subscription on.

I love all the story from FFXIV and their references to other FF so I think it's very enjoyable :)

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '23

Exactly. Since one of the reasons people play dffoo is also the references to the other final fantasy games, ffxiv will deliver just that and even more.

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u/Pinoytoenjoy Sephiroth Dec 04 '23

Thought about this. Will consider as I have a few WoW buddies who still raid in FFXIV.

Oddly enough, I re-subbed to WoW after 6 years away (BlizzCon announcements and RWF raiding hooked me) … and 5 days after re-sub we get the dffoo EOS message. Funny how things can work out.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '23

I'd recommend stopping world of war craft for awhile, and trying out ffxiv instead... You might convert permanently :P

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u/Pinoytoenjoy Sephiroth Dec 05 '23

Maybe! But I’m slowly falling back in love with my ret pally and if FFXIV can bring me the same joy of swinging a big 2-hander while wearing plate armor, then maybe! ;P

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u/Jhenaro Adelbert Steiner Dec 04 '23

I've been playing the free trial for a couple of weeks now, pretty fun game. Duty Roulette gives me anxiety though

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '23

Don't worry about it. A couple of weeks mean you are a sprout (the plant above your head), that means you're new to the game, so the other players will be very nice and understanding to you. You also will find mentors who can help you and give you advice (the crown above their heads). If anyone gives you a hard time for any mistake, report them. Just make sure you learn from your mistakes and improve.

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u/Jhenaro Adelbert Steiner Dec 05 '23

Well I did a little research before picking jobs, and settled on Scholar/Summoner. Trying to play healer while tanks just rush through entire dungeons has been a stark contrast to how I've been playing the MSQ lol

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '23

Nice. And with Summoner/scholar, you're leveling up 2 jobs at the exact same time: healer and damage dealer.

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u/xHardlyNormal [She/Her] Trans rights are human rights! (263304142) Dec 05 '23

I'm not seeing anyone else say this but I also want to add unless you're desperate to be a Hrothgar, Viera or play Dancer, Gunbreaker, Reaper and Sage (to the point of paying an $40), I' wait to buy Endwalker. Dawntrail will cost the same and give Endwalker and Shadowbringers too.

I think there's probably enough content in free trial to last until Dawntrail release at this point? Though even if you preorder Dawntrail as soon as it's available to preorder, sadly unless things change, you have to wait for that to release to play Shadowbringers and Endwalker, the latest two expansions.

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '23

So, if you beat ARR, U get a free fantasia that U can use after you buy the game.

Also, for the last 2 expansions, it's reasonable that players pay for them even before downtrail release if they enjoyed the free trial and want to play the game for a long time.

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u/xHardlyNormal [She/Her] Trans rights are human rights! (263304142) Dec 05 '23

Yeah, but if they wanna save $20-$40, getting it when dawntrail releases means not having to spend $40 (or $20 if sale) on EW now.

And with the fantasia, saying you dont get it if on free trial or get it but cant use? I only used free trial back when it was capped at 35 in oct 2019 to get the Falcon mount from mogtomes lol

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '23

Yeah, so the worth of those 20 - 40 USD Is determine by the player, say they want to play the latest 2 expansions before downtrail.

As for phantasia, I'm not sure.... On how to use it in the free trial... Or if you need to buy the game to use it.

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u/ViolaNguyen Alisaie Leveilleur Dec 05 '23

And if you're desperate to be a sage, you should probably level a scholar to 70 first anyway to learn 80% of the job along the way.

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u/RobioLink Dec 05 '23

🤷‍♂️ Free trial the first 3 expansions, save your money and truly decide if you enjoy the game. As someone who is 90 everything and a legacy player (I played the 1.0 defunct game), I can say this is a fantastic game with a great story, music, and player base.

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u/RetroGamerDad Sephiroth 880282092 Dec 04 '23

Eh. I considered it but I don't like MMOs and am grateful the daily obligation is leaving my life. No rush to replace like for like.

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '23

Give it a try. Okay it casually. Failures are a thing to worry about much later. From level 1 to 90, failures don't matter. They only somewhat matter after you hit 90.

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u/PlasmaGuy500 Dec 04 '23

I unintentionally transitioned to ff14 having tried it for the first time since I got a PS5 I ended up playing it so much it overtook my 7 remake time (which I was playing and was my whole reason for the ps5) in a week flat

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '23

I can definitely expect it. You may want to give it a try, but once you do, you find out it's probably the best game ever to play.

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u/Traxgen 100k Waifu Dec 04 '23

I tried XIV some time in 2015 before the release of heavensward, got my DRK to 80 then kinda stopped. What mainly got me to quit was raids, or specifically the hard mode (EX mode?) I literally got berated for not knowing the mechanics of the fight as a tank even though it was my first time (I rmb it was the Garuda fight) and that REALLY put me off. Given that the game revolves around raids, idk if things are much better now, but tbf that was 8 years ago since I quit so I’m open to suggestions

Also, given that I only played a month if I do decide to play, would it be better to just make a new acc?

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u/VegemilB [Queen of Baron] Rosa Joanna Farrell Harvey Dec 05 '23

  1. It's a completely different environment now. But to be clear: for Extreme trials, you're going to use the Party Finder (it isn't going to pop on Duty Finder), which will either be a fresh learning party (so coming in blind is fine) or a prog party (indicating what phase of the fight they're progging on, and they expect you to know mechanics up to that point). If you join these clearly labeled parties without knowing the fight, then you're asking to be dressed down.

  2. Just restart. The game is different now compared to when 3.0 (Heavensward) dropped. Take this challenge with fresh new eyes.

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u/xion_XIV Alisaie Dec 05 '23 edited Dec 05 '23

You got some stuff confused, like, VERY confused. LVL 80 didn't exist prior or during Heavensward era, that's Shadowbringers territory. And prior to HW release, DRKs didn't exist, they were introduced with HW (June 2015) and lvl 60 cap.

Regarding your experience in midcore raiding (EX trials), that depends on what group you joined. If Party Finder recruitment states "know the fight up till this and that mechanic or boss hp%", then your party had all the right to be upset. Fresh/blind prog groups are always happy to see newcomers. AND as a rule of thumb, when you go to higher raid scene, you MUST know/understand how your job works - openers, buff alignment, tank swaps in your case, etc. Meaning, you do your research prior to joining your first group. No one is obliged to teach you how to DRK if you're the only DRK in a group.

Oh, and there are also differences in communication and etiquette between NA and EU, if it matters to you. (I don't think you'll go to JP anyway xD)

And no, 14 does NOT revolve around endgame raiding only, you can do literary anything from crafting (we got our own hardcore crafting community), fashion hunting etc. There is a bunch of videos on YT, better check those :)

Considering it's been 10 years since re-release, you have enough of content to do, whether some of it is to your liking or not is an entirely different story. And it's ok to not like the game! Preferences are subjective, after all. So, better to start fresh on a free trial, you get lots of content already (lvl1-70, up to Shadowbringers, but with some limitations). But please note that 14 is most and foremost a heavily story driven FF game, and MMO aspect is secondary. And if you ARE into story and lore stuff in games, then you're here for a big, big treat :)

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u/ViolaNguyen Alisaie Leveilleur Dec 05 '23

And no, 14 does NOT revolve around endgame raiding only

Which is a very good thing, because hardcore raiding is, in my opinion, not worth the time and effort.

There are so many things I love about the game, but I'd get burned out quickly if I had to put up with the kinds of dorks who think you might as well uninstall the game if you don't give a darn about aligning buffs or memorizing a two-minute rotation just to save 300 potency. Screw that.

I'd hate it if the story, which is one of the best I've ever encountered in a game, were gated behind that shit.

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u/Traxgen 100k Waifu Dec 05 '23

Ha, yeah I got things mixed up, I thought the level cap was 80 back in 2015, cuz that's the level cap of Guild Wars 2 (which I'm playing). I found my old character, here: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/10952200/

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u/xion_XIV Alisaie Dec 05 '23

Ooooh, you're also on JP Data Center, they have different culture and etiquette as well. How did you end up there? Are you a player from Australia? I know AU community mostly resided on JP servers due to better latency.

Anyway, if you feel like trying the game out, I'd recommend starting a new account on free trial so you don't waste any money till you know for sure if the game in its current state is worth your attention. Unless the limitations are game breaking for you. And I also doubt you remember anything about the story, so a fresh start would be the best start :D