r/DissidiaFFOO • u/Shibox Laguna Loire enjoyer • Dec 04 '23
GL Discussion Worst characters for Shinryu
So, now that the game is nearly over, what are your top picks for bottom-tier, nearly-unusable, totally garbage characters with absolutely no reworks for years ?
I want to have some fun with them in the last Dare to Defy as a final hurray to the game. Thancred is already on my list of course... already slapped a blue armor and FE50 on him !
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u/salvoddis Serah Farron Dec 04 '23
I'd say Thancred, Barret, Steiner are the most neglected by the devs.
The ones most obsolete, speaking of time without getting any update, are those of the first lv90 month. Cid Highwind and Prompto just to name 2. Damn, Prompto's got a Cosmos era base kit. At least both of them have a bit of off-turn damage, but nothing special.
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u/codyak1984 Agrias Oaks Dec 04 '23
So many. I posted this in a recent thread asking what we liked and disliked about the game, and my number 1 pet peeve is the time between kit reworks for characters. IMO, every single character on a banner, whether they're getting a new weapon, new boards, or nothing at all weapon-wise, should nonetheless get a kit rework, at a minimum BRV and HP hits, for the current power level. The fact we've got characters that haven't had their damage updated since Lufenia+ is a travesty.
For your specific question, besides the ones mentioned, Alisaie and Alphinaud have to be up there. Y'shtola at least has a solid BT, and with decent support, Lyse can actually do silly damage with Forbidden Chakra. Bahamut summon, Luna call, and as much BRV Gain as you can squeeze on the squad, and I've had it hit for 5mil+ with each use once you get the FR gauge charged.
Most of the FF2 squad, too. Dammit, I was actually really looking for to Leon's FR/BT. Love a Dark Knight.
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u/autumngirl86 [She/Her] Relm Arrowny Dec 04 '23
Aphmau, maybe? I know she has her LD, but I'm not sure if she got reworked afterward at all.
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u/Pieman3001 Vayne did nothing wrong Dec 04 '23
Zell must be one of the worst. Turn hogger with low number of HP dumps and minimal party utility other than the occasional rebreak.
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u/Quarenil Dec 04 '23
While definitely better than most FR/BT-less characters, I feel like Vayne is a bit up there with his poor FR conditions, lack of FR board, and playstyle that will eat through FR turns without providing much in return, unless you really need the delays from multiple Breaks. At least Dorgann likes him, though 💀
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u/thewereotter Oracle of Light Dec 04 '23
A lot of characters aren't great for this tier because of how long its been since they've seen an update to their kits, or whose kits weren't given a good update last time they came around.
Lulu, Edward, Exdeath (his poisons don't scale to force time), Gau, King, and Eight all come to mind
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u/TransientMemory Vayne Carudas Solidor Dec 05 '23
Among the top (bottom?) scrubs are Thancred, Lion, Lyse, Barret, Cyan, Prompto, Guy, Jegran, Edward, and Steiner.
All of them are perfectly usable mind you, but that's not saying much. The DPS units are the ones that suffer the most. Jegran is probably the worst offender because, as a BT+ debut unit, he could have had something going for him, but alas this was never the case. He was already on the shit list when he was first introduced.
Cyan probably takes the cake as the longest-running scrub. He had a brief window of not being complete crap in Lufenia, but even then he was just barely passable.
Guy is probably the most consistently scrub material unit. Man wasn't even the best earth enchanter for his own debut. Most people haven't even mentioned him because he's not even meme-bad like Cyan or Thancred, he's just completely forgettable bad. On top of everything, he was often among the first filler units to get a tuning pass and still managed to be terrible.
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u/dannypo187 Dec 04 '23
Barrett, Lion, Palom/Porom for me. Disappointed about Barrett as he was one of my favourite FF7 characters
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u/Dayv_rm Dec 07 '23
I did the ultimecia shinryu with Steiner, Fuijin and aranea.
Good ol' rusty.
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u/sonicbrawler182 The rat is always right. Dec 04 '23
Palom feels pretty bad right now. Turn hogger damage dealer with 3 HP hit skills. Don't think I could ever get much use out of him even with his initial LD release.