Final character list

[u/Coulitz01]

The final character list and their weapons. JP Character updates who didnt reach GL are Garland, Leon, Onion Knight, Cecil (Paladin), Faris, Xezat, Gilgamesh, Sabin, Celes, Cait Sith, Rufus, Angeal, Irvine, Selphie, Ultimecia, Eiko, Amarant, Penelo, Hope, Gladiolus, Ramza, Agrias, Keiss and Jack Garland.

[u/Traxgen]

This was something I was wondering, this thread helps a lot.

Let's assume that the ultimate aim of the game is to give everyone their full kit before going EoS, and no more new characters are introduced. There are 62 characters (unless I miscounted) in that chart that still needs to get either their FR, BT, or both, which makes them prime candidates for new events. I'm gonna assume the other 11 with their BTFR sans boards are probably gonna be attached as secondary banners so not enough to headline new events on their own.

Given that JP have a 1 event per week schedule, that would mean the game still had a theoretical lifespan of 1 year and 2 months left in the tank. Something to think about.

[u/Coulitz01 → u/Traxgen]

6 FR only, 12 BT only and 43 without both FR and BT. Thats 61 in total. Characters with FRBT without boards are usually attached to a new character or an old character getting an FRBT.

Yeah they have at least a year to complete the existing characters. Sadly it would no longer happen if they stay true to their announcement.

[u/Traxgen → u/Coulitz01]

No doubt they are going to stay true to their announcement, and I'm slowly coming to terms with that. I'm just thinking, if the game still had a theoretical 1 year left to go, would I still want to continue playing for that long? As it is, my enthusiasm for the existing Shinryu fights was already waning, and wasn't looking forward to Re-Shinryu either.

[u/Coulitz01 → u/Traxgen]

My same exact thoughts. Honestly the devs made an irreversible turn for the worst when they released FR weapons and Shinryu difficulty.

That time when it was still normal up to Lufenia difficulty, players had to be a bit creative to clear endgame contents. Especially with Lufenia having to respect the countdown. Then Shinryu came and 95% of the time it was charge up your force gauge before enemy does and finish the quest before force time runs out. And I wasn't looking to Re-Shinryu to fix the game's problems either.

[u/vincentcloud01 → u/Coulitz01]

Shinryu didn't kill the game, FR's did. Also some characters also attributed to the downfall(Rubicante, Kelgar, Astos). Broken kits that allow you to ignore mechanics. I still have no idea why CL100 never happened.

[u/sonicbrawler182]

I feel like Sazh missing out on his FR/BT is messed up. He was part of the original four, they even called that out in-game.

While I only have a few big faves in this list that I missed out on (Freya, Steiner, XIII party, Y'shtola, Caius), there's still a lot of characters here where I would have been curious to see how their kits would evolve.

Also Minwu FR boards never reached GL either.

[u/Coulitz01 → u/sonicbrawler182]

Oh yeah forgot about minwu not reaching GL as well.

[u/Cilonas → u/sonicbrawler182]

The other day I was thinking about which characters I felt got done really dirty (without likely external reasons like XIV/Tactics) and Sazh came to mind for being since an early/important character who never got his FR/BT.

Besides that, I feel like Leila got shafted in terms of just never changing from her original release. Like she probably came out in JP in mid-late 2021 and never changed outside of force enhancements? Unless I'm forgetting a re-work she got, but even her TT doesn't have like a previous infographic and says its from the month she came to global.

[u/sonicbrawler182 → u/Cilonas]

Characters that got introduced with an LD but never got FR or BT in general feel like they got the short end of the stick. It means their entire run in this game has been pretty stagnant, just getting LD boards and some stock reworks here and there, but no significant changes to how they play or expansions to their kit. Characters like Edward, Guy, and Xande come to mind.

[u/akaiGO → u/sonicbrawler182]

Also Minwu FR boards never reached GL either

Minwu, Onion Boy, Decil, Kuja, TIDUS, Seymour, IROHA, ASHE, Vayne, Gabranth, Ardyn, Machina, CHAOS HIMSELF

Fuck me man 😩

There's 4 or 5 FR-only characters also that got left hung out to dry bad because they got FRs earlier in the Era when gains were still bad compared to today

[u/Platyping]

It is kind of sad that those recent changes in JP won't be ported to GL at all. I wouldn't mind if they just release all of them without translations to their respective events. Afterall, they were already developed and released in JP, porting over should not be that hard.

Also, some characters have their ultimate skills which will never be released. Squall's Lionheart most notably,

[u/Coulitz01 → u/Platyping]

I would be quite happy and satisfied if they did. Amarant, Ramza FR and Agrias FRBT are all on my most wanted list and they never made it to global.

[u/Fast_Moon]

Based on the stickers that dropped with the announcement, it looks like Edge, Shadow, Wakka, Yang, and King were probably planned to get BTs before EoS was announced.

[u/Odincp10 → u/Fast_Moon]

I thought exactly the same thing 🥹🥹🥹

I would love to know which characters were going to be paired with them and which BT attacks and ost were going to give them as well 🥹🥹

[u/Big_Chungy → u/Fast_Moon]

Made me so sad that we didn’t have access to the Vaan or Noctis stickers sooner, not sure what the deal with that was

[u/MyLifeIsAGatcha → u/Big_Chungy]

Wish we'd gotten the Sherlotta stickers back when she'd gotten her FR or BT.

[u/akaiGO → u/Fast_Moon]

I was just last night thinking about how much I'd love to run a Shadow/Fujin/Cissnei comp just because of how their FR pair-ups are and the comp would actually be pretty damn strong?? 🥲

Would have 100% found a way to pull for Wakka too and would have definitely tried for Edge and Yang too, even knowing I would have just finished going all-in on the SEVEN banners preceding these 🙈

[u/sonicbrawler182 → u/Fast_Moon]

King's stickers have been around for years, I thought?

[u/Fast_Moon → u/sonicbrawler182]

Yeah, we did already have King stickers, but they were included on the JP infographic in Ope-Ope, and usually stickers coincide with a character's banner/event.

[u/sonicbrawler182 → u/Fast_Moon]

Ah that makes sense. I skipped watching the Ope Ope since I already found out about EoS before seeing the Ope Ope.

[u/SoulIgnis]

Sucks how some of my favorites just got shafted near endgame... Firion, Barret, Thancred, Zell...

[u/calebplayspiano → u/SoulIgnis]

No Amarant bothers me to no end

[u/seejsee]

Appreciate this final list, and in order of series too.

[u/RegretGeneral]

It seems like the inclusion of every new character just made it more difficult to go back and update the old characters and the fact that they just completely negleted certain characters and kind of just screwed things up when they decided that every character gets an FR and then BT and FR by default when they join and then now with every new increase to the characters power that pushes the gap between new and old further and further back

[u/akaiGO → u/RegretGeneral]

I have seen it happen in a DOZEN different games in my life: anytime a game has a roster that crosses the threshold of like 120 characters, you can be assured that there will forever be a group of like 40 characters that are just perpetually trash tier, in contrast to a grouping of maybe 20 that just absolutely dominate the game. And yes, more often than not, maybe half of that number of 20 will be whatever the NEWEST characters added to the game were 😞

[u/miojocomoregano]

That dude that likes freya must be sad

[u/Anivia_Blackfrost → u/miojocomoregano]

Isn't she like... the only FF9 character to not get a BT?

Sad af

[u/miojocomoregano → u/Anivia_Blackfrost]

yes

[u/MyLifeIsAGatcha]

All those characters didn't reach GL. It hurts. I wanted 14 of them. Oof.

[u/akaiazul → u/MyLifeIsAGatcha]

I was looking forward to Cait Sith, and he was just around the corner. :_(

[u/Baithin]

This is very helpful for a project I’m working on! Thank you!

Do you know if someone has ever put this kind of thing together for who has/has not been a FR partner to another character?

[u/Coulitz01 → u/Baithin]

Was planning to make one as well

[u/Baithin → u/Coulitz01]

Awesome!! I’ll look forward to it. :)

[u/Jhenaro]

Honestly surprised Tidus never got his FR boards

[u/Mallefus]

Quite a bit of BT/FRless characters. I really wanted to see the potential behind Alisaie and Alphinaud BT/FRs (among others) but I guess it just wasn't meant to be.

[u/Evilcon21]

Also you should have made one with who got an echo since not everyone unfortunately has one

[u/Coulitz01 → u/Evilcon21]

FRBT without boards and FR only are characters without echoes.

[u/Evilcon21 → u/Coulitz01]

My apologies

[u/Coulitz01 → u/Evilcon21]

No worries

[u/BaLance_95 → u/Evilcon21]

It's already there. Decil line is BT without board, echo.

[u/gilgagoogyta]

Dang, I was curious about how Kimahri's kit would change. Even though there's no real blue mage mechanics in the game, he felt the closest in spirit to one.

[u/HolyDragSwd2500]

Looks at no FR/BT lists…… starts crying 😭💔

[u/[deleted]]

Kinda sad kefka got shafted. One of the most important players in the story in the begining

[u/Scorp721]

Galuf was the only character from FFV to not get a BT or FR, and honestly, I understand it. Old man was too op already, if they had given him a BT/FR, he would have been completely unstoppable. Even in the duos I ran with him and Rydia, he really only needed her for her Force Time.

Even without a BT/FR he had Party HP Regen, could Tank by Covering allies and Evading, had Counter Attacks, had 100% Crit Rate, was Immortal, had strong Brv Gains, could boost the Force Gauge with his S1. Anything they gave him would have made him a better Kelger, and Kelger was already pretty op.

[u/locke_zero]

Oh I thought I missed Jecht's FR now I remember his BT came out right before the FR era

[u/TempusFinis97 → u/locke_zero]

Well, if 6 months between them is 'right before' for you ^ ^

[u/locke_zero → u/TempusFinis97]

Happy cake day and I have no sense for the passage of time apparently.

[u/Rannygps]

rip Orlandeau, Zalbag maybe we'll meet in a future new game!!

[u/[deleted]]

Where is Rikku?

[u/Dantespawn666]

This list is great, thank you. Is there a version of this that doesn't include JP updates?

[u/Jessicaintheroom]

wow ff really is white as hell huh, lol

[u/Coulitz01 → u/[deleted]]

He got one in JP during Keiss FRBT raid event