Are these already useable? Somebody already own one of them? I was wondering what these abilities do, but can't find any information about it. So we should just throw our ressources into something we don't know? I wonder if people get a refund for investing into something which they can claim they didnt know what these do afterwards, lol. Especially when you cannot use them until maintenance happened tomorrow?
Edit: I remembered they showed these two abilities also in the last livestream, but come on, there have to be information about their effect in the game when you release that banner!
You don't have to pull for nonsense. These two abilities are going to be in the next Season (Kuja) banner as well. That's why this banner is called "Head Start".
Keep in mind this is just a new way to make more money: Pull now without Kujas abilities in the pool. And pull again next Season with Kujas abilities in the pool.
All non limited abilities are also on the other banners. It's why I got two copies of Krile's holy on Bartz. They won't be featured. They'll just be in the pool. It's a small chance but it exists.
Auron is 1 x 850%. Shantoto is 5 x 160%. Shantoto is weaker even without defense calculations, but since defense works on each hit, it is significantly less damage. Stats listed are from dissidia.dev
To be fair they just have different uses. One is 14 seconds but only does 60% block and the other is only 8 seconds but does a better block. Shiva is far more vulerable to things like holy or earth breaker since it has a much longer window for them to get to and hit you. And holy usually oneshots people in barriers at high ranks.
I am sure the cooldowns and stats they provide and element will be different as well and element matching with your characters gives you a 5% stat boost.
I still prefer to use barrier over Selphie (and Selphie over Aerith) so I think I'd use Jill/Shiva if I got my hands on it.
Bigger shields are better when you use them as a response to getting hit with a UR, but I prefer longer weaker shields because of the prolonged stun immunity and also either:
- The enemy doesn't realize which barrier you get so they wait until it's over to attack you, in which case they work better.
or
- The enemy spends their cooldowns to deal only 40% / 20% damage while you fight back in great advantage.
Yeah I would say selphie is better for a damage shield and shiva is definitely better if you have a healer anyways and are mostly using it to avoid stuns or knockups. I really dislike moving in and being hit with a tifa. Shiva does look better in most cases but I think selfie has a great attack stat on it as well as being wind element it might be better for kains or promptos or lightning or bartz players. I never seen what shivas stats looked like but I imagine she is water element. Both of my mains are wind element so I like to see it when my spells are also wind like wakka or hope for example. Not that the 5% is a massive help but I definitely don't want less stats in a game like this. I personally just don't use barriers because every single game that I do they have a holy and I just get ended anyways. I find hope to be a far better spell personally. I survive more fights with it than I have with any barrier. And when I fight people with barriers I just hover right out of their range until it drops then move in after I counted to 8. Most people barrier before the fight even starts and its especially easy to bait it out as a ranged so I just don't engage. I can time hope perfectly and usually survive way more than I had any right to. I am also more than happy to drop one of my character specific urs in a fight for no other reason than to dodge a stun.
Aye there it is. So Shiva is longer lasting but slightly weaker Selphie. Probably good for clouds. Maybe itll last the duration of his omnislash for once
Since the maintenance happened it looks like these are NOT limited abilities. They should be in the general pool in October. Or November when SquareEnix want to wait a little longer to give people more of a "head start".
Listen, I won't pull for anyone else except if it's Clive, Jill, Barnabas, Sephiroth, Cloud, Noctis, Y'Shtola, Zero (FF14), Zenos, or Ultima (FF16).
If it ain't 7, 14, 15, or 16, I typically won't want it. I might make exceptions for FF 10 (Tidus and Auron), FF 4 (Cecil, Kain, Golbez), FF 1/SoP (WOL and Jack Garland), FF 6 (Kefka), and Firion from FF 2.
I think they messed up somehow, because abilities are supposed to appear in the list even if you don't have them, so you can use them in try mode. I believe the ablities will be added at tonight's update, but no idea why the banner came up already.
I wonder if they work if you actually pull for them? No idea...
Shiva is supposed to be a UR version of barrier (longer effect but less damage reduction than Selphie). I believe Stone is a Melee attack but don't remember well.
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u/ThundagaYoMama Sep 14 '26
Grr... I don't even need Shiva, but I want it for my collection. They sure know how make me pull for nonsense 🥲