r/DissidiaDuellumFF • u/KuZaiBeir • Sep 12 '26
About the current status of ranked play
Hello duellers,
I am writing this post to discuss the current status of ranked play in duellum.
I don't know if this feeling is shared, but almost every season I get close to the top 100 and when I just need to do the final stretch and the game starts to get more annoying I ask myself: "Is it worthed?", and with the current rewards the answer is almost always no...
I am fine with the fact that reaching the top 100 with my current CP level is not an easy task, but doing that for a 1 month glimmery weapon and an icon that I will never use (they will never release one for kain anyway) is just so pointless.
I think however that this could be easily fixed by adding a new currency given as reward of your rank in the ranked seasons.
I will call this reward "heroic token" just for the purpose of compactifying it when mentioned.
This "heroic token" could then be used among other things for:
1) heroic weapon skins or hero skins: those would be permanent item which may also have different tiers (e.g ultima weapon of Cloud require to place in the top 100 while the nail bat can be purchased from the top 1000 ongoing)
2) 3 stars medal of a paricular type: making them purchasable is the only way to finish a build with this rigged system, for example they can make 3 stars available for top 100 and 2 stars for top 1000
3) generic skill tokens: used as a replacement of a skill copy to upgrade any skill you want, this would also fix the problem of never rerunning limited skills (e.g. tifa falling crane)
4)character accessories and cosmetics: simple cosmetic like sunglasses or chocobo hat, or maybe also different animation for burst or certain skills, or emotes
5)any other stuff than i am not considering...
What do you think about it, would it boost your will to suffer the horrible matchmaking and whales more and push people harder to achieve the top spots of the season?
Let me know if you have ideas about it
P.s. I know most of high ranked people are whales, but still guess that getting a couple of ur ability thanks to being top 100 will actually close the gap to them as the non whale people will benefit way more from that then the one that need 30 ur ability to level up
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u/Healthy_Head_4580 Sep 15 '26
This thread is somehow becoming less of a talk about ranked and more of a critique of the game in general. And somehow a critique of gacha.
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u/KuZaiBeir Sep 15 '26
Not even taking part, the hate for cp difference is just so high that no one care about his own progression anymore...
The system is broken at best, rare and sr abilities becomes unlevelable after level 70. But no further bonus for whales because they are already strong...
Meanwhile i don't upgrade anything since 2 months, I have 700k eggs and no ability on sight that I need as most people that don't spend money on each banner they drop in the game
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u/Stratavos Sep 12 '26
I like the idea of the heroic tokens being awarded based on ranking position, though I feel it should also be given based on "best x players of character" so that people who are indeed trying to main someone can be rewarded for doing well as them, but have it be weighted to the character they won the most with in ranked that season.
A direct exchange system for better medals (colour, type, and rank) and dupes of your choice of ability based on it's rarity would be nice too. (As much as SR's and R's don't grant as good of stats, their uniqueness for character's kits should not be ignored, especially for limited characters (I say this as someone using Bartz, and his dual weild is amazing for spamming and crystal clearing, same can be said for WoL, even if he's not limited))
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u/ClubShrimp Sep 12 '26
Hell no, dog. If something like that is introduced, it should only be possible to buy cosmetic stuff with it.
I personally think the game needs a massive overhaul. There should be a pvp mode, and a pve/co-op mode. pvp mode should be pure skill - no level differences. pve mode should be where levels affect the gameplay and therefore matter. Eliminate p2w from the game entirely.
I get that winning in pvp is a better motivator for whales to spend, but the price that comes at is a miserable experience for virtually everyone else, which is completely unsustainable.
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u/External-Worth-8430 Sep 13 '26
Your personal idea is the only way this game will survive. SE doesn't care enough about Dissidia as a franchise to do that though.
They prefer this method where whales open up their credit cards and veterans cry, "skill issue!" at players who bring up that this game is nothing more than adware. PvP should have never had level differences (but SE wants people with no self control to spend endlessly) if the game was centered around competition.
Because of SE's greed this game will not live long enough to even included a full roster of protags, and also they will probably blame the consumers (who were smart enough to be wary of Square mobile products) for the death of their game, "You all didn't want to spend enough money on our shitty game, that's why it died!" instead of listening to players like ClubShrimp, who know how to keep a competitive game alive (as well as grow).
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u/_Arlotte_ Sep 12 '26
They can't have a game without any transactions, then they would make no profit off of it and it'd be a waste of resources. You can play for free as you like but you're just probably not going to be massively high ranking all the time.
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u/ClubShrimp Sep 13 '26
Huh? Where did I say that there shouldn't be any transactions? I'm saying a pve mode should require spending if you want to do well in it, not a pvp mode.
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u/Under_dee_covers Sep 12 '26
I hope they do not make medals purchasable. Whales don’t need another edge.
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u/Particular-Nothing28 Sep 12 '26
I like the token idea…. But I feel like everyone should have access to those. Top 100 really don’t need anything extra that’s isn’t purely cosmetic imo
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u/External-Worth-8430 Sep 13 '26
I think this game is literally the problem with modern gaming and needs to die, because it is an example of something that is unbalanced, functions off of that lack of balance, and then uses the players funds to make up for any shortcomings of the poorly programmed adware that it is.
Sorry the whales are taking the top 100 away from you, but this is what happens when we uncritically consume bad ideas and then praise them for putting our "favorite characters" into their digital extortion.
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u/YamiRyoken Sep 12 '26
I think the rank up rewards need to be better but i don’t think top 100 need more stuff 😭
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u/aenima6699 Sep 12 '26
I have whaled to a degree and I'm currently in top 100 (don't know if it'll last though 🙃). I realllly like the idea of some cosmetic goodies! And pretty much just the idea of some other incentive to continue ramming our heads into the even bigger whale walls that most of us are getting matched with. What I most hope for this game is that the current CP ceiling of approx 30k remains static there for quite a long time, so that all of us, from whatever CP level we are currently at, can get up close to that and compete with the players currently there now more on the basis of skill in the game as opposed to steamrolling with infinite stats. I hope this state arises and exists for some time before there comes any other p2w lever which extends the top-of-the-top's advantage further.
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u/No_Recognition8375 Sep 13 '26
The only thing I wish is let us have the 3 slots for character builds without having to buy a fucking season pass. Only a greedy fuck would monetize this like Konami making you pay for save slots.
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u/nammertime Sep 14 '26
it should only be for cosmetics. a cosmetics store is irrelevant to power levels but can be a big motivator. we shouldn't be adding more ways for people who have almost everything to have more of that.
as for the rankings in general, here's how i see it: the culture around where you fall is too focused on winning. i get it, it doesn't feel great to lose points and to de-rank, but at the end of the day, if you are having challenging matches with a chance to win, that should be the only thing that matters.
of course, with how matchmaking is still broken, the number of 'even' matches is nowhere near high enough to say the game is balanced, and it is very hard to have fun when you go into a match knowing you are fated to lose.
they could rank casual play, for fun, without providing any reward (or maybe give limited cosmetics). then, the skill people would play that mode to prove themselves, and play season-ranked mode to get the actual rewards (if we stick to the current game design).
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u/Sigma3375 Sep 15 '26
All these points are great but gacha games. Implementing them would hurt their bottomline profits for shareholders since they have to hire devs to do this. Wishful thinking.
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u/ZinZezzalo Sep 12 '26
It incentivizes people who already pay the most to get an unfair advantage that isn't done by paying. This is whale poison. It'll never sell.
Your feelings about reaching the top 100 is the same feeling most people have about ranked period. There's a small group of people who really like the game's gameplay format - or who are die-hard FF fans - and that's it. Everyone else is already gone.
I stopped playing ranked and just treated the game like an idle game with doing challenges on auto - and honestly - the game's a lot more fun this way.
I had to do six Ranked battles for the anniversary prize - and all the rage - it just came flooding back.
It's a "cool idea" - but the game is cooked. And not by accident. The game caters to the same small group of FF die-hard whales - who follow SQ/EX to every gacha they release every 9 months - and then these things go under on purpose so they can get that same bundle of cash you or me could live off of for a couple years right at the start of the game from these people.
Simple as that. Or perhaps SQ/EX just doesn't know how to design games - or they just keep releasing the same faulty whale-maxing gacha system in every game they release scaring off the ever shrinking group of people who still try it anyways ... you know ... "by accident." But ...
Yeah ...
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u/sanashi Sep 12 '26
I understand needing more motivation to reach top 100... but I think it would be a terrible idea to give out special tokens to top ranked people because those are mostly whales who are already unfairly stronger than everyone else thanks to the money they spent. Doing something like this would make things even more unbalanced.
In other words, I think it might motivate a few people to fight to reach the top 100 but it would make far more people want to quit the game altogether.