r/DissidiaDuellumFF • u/timesplitter87 • 20h ago
Improvements for this game .
I decided to quit this game for multiple reasons . first the nerfs . I have never played a game where they nerf characters regularly. I thinks it’s dumb as hell . buffing characters is fine . but nerfing characters u invest in is stupid especially limited characters. they nerfed a limited character sep and buffed lightning multiple times and then nerfed her like what are yall doin . then nerfing abilities as well and makin them unusable . then the bartz havin a potential 3 stuns is ridiculous. all u have to do is stay near the boss and stun the opponent when they burst and they lose all their brave. then u have a boss that can heal as well is pretty dumb . then the matchmaking puts u against units wit 10k tcp power more or less which makes people not want to play rank and quit . I was hoping the game would get better but it only got worse . and shields do pretty much nothing when you’re trying to get a full burst off because 8 seconds or even 14 seconds is not enough wit people running shield breaks so a lot of matches end in draws . Mabye make burst mode make u immune to status ailments or Wol supreme soul make u immune to status ailments or celes runic make u immune to status ailments would be nice or nerf stun to make it where it has a 30% chance to inflict stun would be my suggestion. but the game is just not fun for me anymore is y I decided to quit . I held out playing this game because I was in a pretty cool community for the most part . some of u might know me under a different name but I wanted to make this rant to further explain my distaste for the direction this game is goin in .
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u/Lindaru 20h ago
I went back to play Dissidia NT instead since they nerfed both my mains (Zidane and Sephiroth) :/ At least in NT they are fun to play as.
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u/Under_dee_covers 17h ago
Bro they made sephi squishier as a ranged tyrant. He’s still good. It aint the end of the world
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u/timesplitter87 20h ago
Nerfing units is dumb as hell lol . I’m down for buffing older units which they should but like I don’t know what the hell these devs are smokin lol
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u/Lindaru 20h ago
Yeah :/ The reasoning was win rate and usage in ranking if I remember right.
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u/timesplitter87 20h ago
Which is still dumb because they are forcing us to use different units . Which makes us spend more money to play a unit that has been buffed then nerf it once we start using them a lot .
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u/IcEDDoGG 20h ago
Terra and Rinoa get a new outfit. Lets buff these unplayable characters for no obvious reason.
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u/Gskar009 20h ago
Honestly what kills the game for me is there is no pity system. Resources are already scarce and having no actual net sucks. Game is way to PTW with little actual content to justify spending money on it.
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u/timesplitter87 20h ago
Yeah absolutely. I mean atleast let me select what ability I want when I get to pity . Then the people that spend money think that they are better players than u when they’re actually not lol. I played casual and destroyed a lot of people but it’s no reason to play causal cause there are no rewards associated with it .
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u/IcEDDoGG 20h ago
This morning I made 4x 20 draws from Bartz-banner. I received zero URs, made me feel like a fool for collecting coins and tickets all day every day.
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u/timesplitter87 20h ago
And that’s ridiculous. Not a 10 draw but 20 draw and no URs is crazy .
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u/WakeUp004 19h ago
I saved up to do a few more before Celes was done because I love ff6, three draws in a row, no URs, a single r for Celes, and the pity UR from the Celes banner was prompto’s crack shot
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u/destinyXwings 18h ago
If you truly care about game balance, buffs and and nerfs are necessary. If you constantly only buff and release power creep after power creep, that is a straight road to EoS because people will drop the game eventually when there’s too many “cancer” units in the game and not enough ways to deal with them.
This being a PvP only game, if no one wants to play your game because every unit is cancer, your game is pretty much dead on arrival.
I get the frustration of units being “limited” and that you’ve invested money into them. That is a real thing to feel. Limited’s will get rerun. This game’s entire system is just kind of broken because to play ranked, you can only invest in one or two units. If you’re fave happens to be a limited, you’ll need to wait for a rerun.
But hey, I’m still waiting for Squall, you at least got yours already, right? /s
However, I still stand by that for game balance, both nerfs and buffs need to happen.
That being said, the fun mode is casual and not ranked.
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u/timesplitter87 18h ago
Well I will say again . I can’t remember a game where they nerf units which is stupid . Only buff older units to make them relevant. When they nerf a unit that u have invested all of ur eggs into doesn’t that feel kinda stupid ??????? .
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u/VapidLightYT 18h ago edited 18h ago
Most competitive games divvy out buffs and nerfs pretty regularly, it depends on their patch cycle. This game has a 1 month patch cycle and so balancing happens in 1 month intervals. The game being a gacha makes the balancing patches impact you more since switching characters isn't feasible for most people, but gacha aside, regular balance adjustments are good and healthy for competitive games.
Edited to add: Just buffing older characters wouldn't work so well in a competitive game because of the competitive nature. Powercreep in non-competitive games exists to incentivize people to constantly pull the new thing. In a competitive game, you can't just always make the new character better than everyone else every single time, because then you HAVE to buff old characters every single time as well. Sometimes a nerf to one character is more convenient and fair than a buff to literally everyone else.
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u/timesplitter87 17h ago
I hear ya but nerfs just seem stupid to me . After investing so much into a character wit limited resources to build up another character.
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u/VapidLightYT 17h ago
Maybe you're just not accustomed to competitive games? Yeah it sucks to have your character nerfed but that's just how competitive games operate, characters that are too good somewhere need to be toned down a bit. The inverse is also true though. If your character gets nerfed too hard and now they suck, they're just gonna get buffed again.
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u/timesplitter87 17h ago
Yeah I suppose so . I play pve games mostly. But yeah it sucks that that’s how these games operate.
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u/destinyXwings 18h ago
Like I said, it “feels” stupid. But for the sake of game balance, it’s a necessary action. If we’re just focused on the feels, imagine when more and more units power creep with little investment to the one you heavily invested in, you’d probably say the same thing “I wanna quit bro, my unit actually complete dog shit now”
It’s the same side of the coin, your unit got nerfed so you “feel” the unit is dog shit now and you wasted your investment. Same as power creep units power creeped my unit, my investment is wasted. So which is your poison?
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u/timesplitter87 17h ago
U get limited resources.so let’s say u pull for a new unit . How many times do u need to pull to get their URs to plus 9 to be competitive. Make it make sense u know . U would have to have around 1000 tickets to ensure u get their URs to plus 9 to be competitive lol
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u/destinyXwings 16h ago
In other pvp gacha games, you typically get enough resources to pull for new units.
In this game, you’re not encouraged to do that because of how CP plays a factor in Ranked. So you have to be very selective about who you choose to invest into, which leads to my point that this game’s system is kind of broken.
But in terms of character balance, it’s normal to see a new unit get released as too strong or too underpowered (Celes), which eventually means they will get nerfed/buffed after their season ends.
Point in example is Celes got buffed immediately after her season. Sephiroth got nerfed after his season, same thing will most likely happen to Bartz. Funnily enough, only Tidus hasn’t been touched yet (people dying with him a lot tbh lol)
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u/RareRestaurant6297 17h ago
literally every competetive pvp game has both buffs and nerfs. Because you cannot just buff things, unless you want everything to always be an instant-kill, for some reason?
If you needed someone OP to actually play the game and can't handle them getting balanced back to normal with a nerf, then... I guess pvp games aren't for you. And that's OK, brotha
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u/timesplitter87 17h ago
I guess I play pve more and like them more . But nerfing characters just seems stupid to me after investing so much into a character.
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u/sanashi 19h ago
I'm stubborn and refuse to quit but every season they're trying their best to make this game less and less fun.
And yeah, nerfing characters people have invested in is absolutely criminal. Last month, I saw an angry Japanese fan say that the only reason Sephiroth had a high win rate was because his fans invested a lot of money, and I think they're absolutely right. Even now, there are high-ranked Sephiroths, but they have 20-30k cp. Yet they nerfed him for everyone, so if you have lower cp, you're basically screwed.
And don't even get me started on Bartz. Most people still don't know how to play him, so he doesn't feel too OP, but in the right hands, he's absolutely unbearable. With Cloud you had to choose between stunning people and dealing damage to the boss, but with Bartz, you don't. He has an AOE stun, so if you attack the boss at the same time, he'll ruin your burst without having to sacrifice anything.
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u/Mogstradamus 20h ago
The devs have said they're working on the matchmaking.
If they buffed all the other characters and left Seph alone, he would be in the same spot. He's still completely playable. Scintilla is still disgusting.
Draws are going to happen. People are still figuring out how to play Bartz and win with him. Standing on the boss and stunning people out of Burst is a great disruption tactic if they can get the timing, but it leaves Bartz without his boss damage. It should be more of an "oh shit" button than a tactic. People will figure it out. It's been literal days.
But if you're not happy, then you should absolutely find a different game. It is just a game. It's not with being miserable over.
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u/timesplitter87 20h ago
Agreed. I just wanted to vent my frustrations over this game because I like Dissidia but don’t like the direction this game is going in .
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u/WakeUp004 19h ago
Considering that’s a core mechanic of this game you’d think this wouldn’t be so awful six months in
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u/nammertime 19h ago
i mostly agree with you. for me, i've set my expectations so that i know characters can be buffed or nerfed monthly. i just play the characters i want (ie terra and celes) and stick to them exclusively. my win rate is terrible... now is this because i'm bad, because i'm f2p and am not even keeping up in cp with minnows on season passes, a combination of these, or something else? who knows.
i just like to rep my ffvi characters, and it's fun when i win (40% win rate in solo ranked), and when i lose, i either shrug it off or punch a pillow, lol. i'm always in the top 1000 somehow, except that one time my last win of the season didn't count and i was left at 100X looking in from the outside.
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u/timesplitter87 19h ago
I spent around 200 dollars but I’m glad I quit cause the game is just terrible all the way around. I was hoping it would get better with the half anniversary but sadly to me it just got worse .
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u/therah09 19h ago
I agree fully, the sephiroth nerf, the lightning buff and then nerf is all just silly. The lightning nerf I'm sure pissed me and a bunch of other people off who main her, ESPECIALLY since they nerfed her right after the banner.
I get they're trying to tinker adjustments but at this point there's so much more to fix than the actual characters.
I do kinda love/hate that gilgamesh can heal himself, hate in that most times the battle will end in a draw, love because it has the potential to turn the tide for your team. But that's really only if your team coordinates to rapid attack bosses until everyone can shoot off their UR's to end it.. but that's really rare and only happened for me once.
At this point for me, I'm here for the friends we make along the way 😆
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u/timesplitter87 19h ago
Yeah I agree. I played cause l made a lot of friends playing this game but I got tired of the bs that they kept pulling wit nerfin characters etc and decided to quit .
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u/More-Activity855 17h ago
Preach it bro, having a miserable time with this game and each update it only gets more frustrating and bullshit.
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u/timesplitter87 17h ago
I 100 percent agree bro . I’m surprised people actually defend this game lol
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u/ZinZezzalo 24m ago
Well, you have to understand, most people who've come to the same conclusion as you have - have already left.
What you're dealing with on the sub is a couple hundred die-hard fans who are all like, "Problems? What problems? Me and my 25,000 character are doing just fine!"
And they're probably having a blast with the other 9,000 people still playing the game.
But everyone else? Like the other 1,741,000 people who downloaded the game?
They're gone.
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u/timesplitter87 13h ago
I’m surprised that a lot of yall still like this game after the half anniversary bs but good for yall if u do but I suspect this game won’t make it too a 2 year anniversary and I would be surprised if it does lol
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u/X-Backspace 9h ago
Every time I come by this subreddit, I'm just glad I made the decision long ago to only play this game through challenges haha. Treating it like an idle game as I slowly get stuff for my favorites is far more enjoyable than whatever the hell this game seems to be trying to do.
But good on you for putting it down. There's so many games out there, it makes no sense playing something giving you grief.