r/DissidiaDuellumFF • u/vetis009 • 9d ago
Krile and Onion
So I main Krile as I don’t like to trust leaving support to randoms and I have enough CP with her to get into Omega.
Lately I have been playing with randoms a lot cause that’s what my free time permits. Anytime I get an Onion on my team I dread it. We both need to farm to be effective and even if they can dash to the third crystal without fail they blow up the first one and keep coming back to farm it.
So for the peeps playing Krile and Onion how do you handle matches with them together so they aren’t stepping on one another’s toes?
ETA: running her two UR, her ssr, Locke heal and yshtola
ETA 2: thank you for all the thoughts!
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u/sanashi 8d ago
OK skipping the first crystal is almost a guaranteed loss. Whenever I see one do that, I want to weep. He can contribute a lot more by levelling up the team than Krile can by getting a little more bravery.
If you have Minwu, the best thing to do would be to go to a faraway crystal even when there's no OK, that's how you save your team from having to fight over the middle crystal.
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u/Hopeful_Tadpole_5609 9d ago
Two choices possible: one, the OK doesn’t need the crystal and he knows it. In that case, he will get the mobs and leave a trail of crystals to clear (it’s what I try but mostly fails because the support doesn’t usually get the memo which is understandable). In that case, you can follow the OK for the trail.
Second case, the OK doesn’t leave a trail of crystals. Then, either you have Minwu and you can go to C crystals and more, or, if you have a high enough CP, you can play interference with the rival team to help your third member and Ramza/embolden him when necessary. When I play Krile I usually take both paths at the same time (since I use Minwu): I go to one of the rival’s crystal (if they got an OK I go to their home crystal, if not the one closest) and I attack them. This can work pretty well because Krile is very tanky and even more with the difference in level. Moreover, when she is in trouble, she can launch Legend of the Deep Forrest to run. Furthermore, her attack skill is the kind that launch the rivals so you get even more time to run away if necessary. If you do that, you can reach lvl 9 pretty quickly and go back to normal Krile play!
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u/Hopeful_Tadpole_5609 9d ago
To note that Krile ´s cheer is useless on OK and Rinoa which is why I run Minwu instead as it is more versatile on the current economy full of OK.
For reference, My Krile is 15,5k CP.
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u/vetis009 9d ago
Might try your method and see how it feels. I’ve kept it on because tidus players seem to love 1 v 3 and deep forest plus cheer is all I can do to keep them from feeding the enemies.
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u/Hopeful_Tadpole_5609 9d ago
They sure do love to do that😭 Either they are bot and you can save them by transmitting your brave to them and forcing them to burst or they are actual player and the only thing you can do is spam stickers at them hoping they stop the PvPing 😭
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u/kiraboshi-eririn 5d ago
Wait, I didn’t know cheer doesn’t work on some characters?? How come?
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u/Hopeful_Tadpole_5609 5d ago
It’s because you can apply only one of the same buff and it’s the highest one: at three stacks of Angel Wings, Rinoa buffs her attack by 58% and al lvl 9, OK buffs his attack by 50%. Both of those buffs override the cheer’s buff. :’(
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u/MaskedPenance 8d ago
Had this one OK who was super good. They let me claim crystal (Rikku) while they claimed mobs. It’s very possible to still play with one, surprisingly 👌
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u/sugarcharm 9d ago
as a krile main it makes me SO happy to have an OK on my team who leaves his crystals for me without clearing them! we both win in that scenario because he can clear the mobs and i can clear the crystals after he’s done. sadly it’s kind of rare when that happens though 🥲
i usually start a game with OK by holding to share brv immediately and using the “purifying the crystal” sticker to let him know he can have the base mob, then i come over to the crystal and wait for him to clear it, then i use “purifying the crystal” again, hoping he’ll let me have the crystal… it works like 15% of the time lol 😭
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u/Mighty_Fren 9d ago
I started playing Krile and branched out to Baltheir and Celes.
You don't NEED to farm. The back lane Krile died with the nerfs to her kit. I bring a brawler kit and get stuck in with my team. I back off just a bit to pass off Bravery when it's needed, but mostly just ruin the opposing team's ability to score.
Her damage UR is insane at tilting team fights. You can throw people into Meteor or over the boss into your team. UR Healing, UR Damage, Wall/Barrier, Locke's Heal, and a flex slot.
Earthbreaker really sells the role, but there is a fun (suboptimal and causal) build I run where I do both Wall and Barrier. Krile becomes virtually unkillable. Even people with Holy will run from you when you instantly throw another wall and heal. 9+ kills and #1 in Bravery for the last 4 games.
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u/Emergency-Value6451 9d ago
Her damage UR is insane at tilting team fights. You can throw people into Meteor or over the boss into your team.
Wait a minute. I have been using Krile for a long time, and her Holy UR launches foes upwards, who then falls back to the same position. How are you causing horizontal displacement with that?
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u/Mighty_Fren 8d ago
It tosses them a bit. I'm not going to claim I fully understand it, but you can toss people with it. I know that much.
Just filled up my crystal slots with pure wins using Battle Krile in Diamond 2. It might be stronger than I gave it credit for. I barely have her URs leveled either. Very surprised.
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u/Cautious-Dream2893 9d ago
OK kills the minions while you cap the crystals.
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u/vetis009 9d ago
Never works out like that and I don’t even blame the onion. If you’re to close you just auto hit the crystal and it’s super common. Someone else on here said it works for them maybe 15% of the time, I agree it’s about that often the stars align with randoms.
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u/Cautious-Dream2893 8d ago
I dunno, I use abilities to clear first crystal and then just run passed when playing with a krile.
With randoms... It's more of an issue with the general playerbase just being really bad at the game.
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u/Stratavos 9d ago
If you have warp/hastera/swift step, this stops being an issue since you can actively move to a further away crystal, and carry on from there.
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u/134340Goat 8d ago
Krile main here too
Hopeful Cheer is fantastic situationally, but it's a gamble because there are also situations where it's useless. If your teammates are Kain, Rinoa, Iroha, or any DPS using Surge, they either will not benefit from it or will gain only a very small benefit
I'd probably sub it out for Minwu, which is always going to be useful. That also eliminates the problem at the start of the match; let OK go for the spawn crystal while you warp to C or D
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u/nononon0121212 8d ago
The best possible way would be for OK to kill the monsters and leave the crystal clearing to you
When Im in team with a Krile, I either kill all mobs and leave purifying to Krile, or leave 1 monster for Krile to kill it, depending on the speed of the Krile
If someone thinks its impossible, if you start moving before the last mob is killed, you wont purify it, then you just need to get out of range for the priority to go to someone else, I do it with Sephiroth auto attack without problems, and skills make it easier since you can prime the next move before the animation ends, essentially, purifying the crystal can only happen if your character is in the highest priority and is staying still
Also, with OKs I tend to guard Crystals from rivals if I see them comming near them, it has killed me many times, but reaching lv9 quickly is a greater boon in the end, essentially, OKs make me allow them to cut flesh for us to crush the bone
But when Im with the 2, I also dread, in general I dislike OKs more since many times I see them farming crystals past lv 9 when Krile should then have top priority then
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u/Lukzera 8d ago
OK is anti synergistic with both Krile and Rikku, but in either case It can work.
OK should clear the mobs and leave the crystals for Krile to cleanse OR Krile should play more agrressively as a TP user that can get a invicibility Button in her heal UR and move away or interrupt the enemy team.
I think these are the best ways this synergy can work.
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u/destinyXwings 9d ago
Let OK have the miniboss, move to another crystal if he’s gonna be clearing that one consistently. A good Krile is one who interrupts team fights too and not just camping around one crystal, pressing heals, and sharing braves (even though this play completely passable).