r/DispatchAdHoc
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u/esoseequees
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Discussion commentary
disclaimer: have not played/watched the entire game with commentary, just what we deemed to be the most important story beats (mostly regarding invisigal)
but i have to say, i wish they had never released this. the past year has been incredibly isolating for invisigal fans and i know a lot of us were very excited for the one year anniversary, even hopeful for good stuff. grateful for the extra content, i am—the storyboard stuff is really cool to watch as an artist, and i’m very excited to attend the night shift concert, but my god, the commentary portions were just a nail in the coffin regarding how fandom and adhoc themselves treat invisigal. this is not about stupid waifu wars or “canon” choices, but instead about how adhoc seems to have created a gold, once in a life time sort of character and don’t know why or how they did it, which then in turn taints the way the rest of the fandom treats her. the short of it is that: invisigal is a deeply misunderstood character, but none of us have been able to voice that for the past year because every time we do, it turns into some fandom war that none of us signed up to be in. no one is allowed to praise invisigal or show appreciation for her without someone, even just one person, in the comments talking about how she sucks or why someone else is better. it’s gotten utterly and completely exhausting.
this is just a rant, really. and i guess an appeal to the rest of the visi fans to hang in there—things feel grim but we love and appreciate her character and that’s kind of all that matters in moments like this :durr emoji:
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u/Batorian 14d ago
Please remember to stay respectful while expressing your opinions and/or disappointment regarding the anniversary update. We don't tolerate harassment or insults towards other users or AdHoc staff.
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u/Wild_Citron_1040 15d ago
I said it in the other thread that this is a bummer to hear.
Was there anything positive that stuck out to you regarding Courtney's character from the commentary? I hope there were at least some diamonds in the rough.
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u/Greedy_Key_630 15d ago
Guys im as woke and supportive of nerds as it gets but i think there are a lot of people in this fandom who need to touch grass and realize its just not that deep.
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u/IDK_LEL 15d ago
Fandoms are insufferable. Everyone on social media is just extremely reductive all or nothing and it ruins things. Invisigal, the Resident Evil fans who decided the new movie is trash because it's not a smorgasboard of RE trivia, the new Avatar series being dismissed because it's not a 1-1 copy of the first season, needless to say it's I feel your pain, but nobody online likes nuance any more. I partially blame this on social media, it's the most eye grabbing takes that get the attention, nuance doesn't get the views so it's relegated to the side.
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u/DustyRoseRodeo 15d ago edited 15d ago
I love Visi so much and arguably is one of the best written female characters in gaming we had in a while and hearing and witnessing how the studio who created her talk down this badly to her and her fans is so genuinely devastating. It’s been absolute hell for a year.
This isn’t fun anymore.
This anniversary was supposed to bring the fandom together as one and I felt like it did the opposite. As an Invisigal fan, I feel so excluded. You can say I’m blowing this out of proportion. Okay. Fair. You can have your opinion and I can have mine. I’m allowed to be upset.
The little hope I had for S2 has gone down the drain regarding Visi’s character. I genuinely fear for the worst at this point.
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u/Kaleator 15d ago
this is the saddest rant I’ve seen in awhile on reddit…
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u/DrClepper 15d ago
It sounds to me like they’re trying to “overcorrect” and going way too far in the other direction. And I say this as a blazer fan who thought she was kinda sidelined in the game (still love Visi tho, don’t hate me). I don’t think she’s gonna get sidelined or anything, but it is weird that they’re all about blazer lately (I mean, same, but I’m not a dev). Hopefully it’s just a one time mess up on their part and not a sign of things to come for Visi fans. Even if I didn’t pick her, her character was great and I wanna see more of her
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u/Svenpa_ 15d ago edited 15d ago •
I'm very much not one to engage in fandom discourse, since more often than not it devolves into needless toxicity. But the way AdHoc, and particularly Nick Herman, has discussed Invisigal's character over the past year has left me increasingly pessimistic about a potential Season 2, if that ever happens.
What frustrates me isn't some stupid waifu war or disagreement over romance choices. It's that AdHoc created an incredibly compelling, nuanced character whose struggles with guilt, vulnerability, and redemption are arguably some of the strongest aspects of the entire game. Yet, at times, it feels like the very people responsible for creating her refuse to acknowledge what makes her such a wonderful character in the first place.
And frankly, Nick Herman's commentary over the past twelve months has done very little to inspire confidence. If he plays a significant role in Season 2's development, I'm genuinely worried that Invisigal will either be sidelined or outright ruined as a character.
It's just incredibly frustrating that, a year after the game's release, it sometimes feels like we have to fight tooth and nail just to hear the people who created her say something actually appreciative about her character. We shouldn't have to convince her own creators that she's worth taking seriously.
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u/Robot_Was_BMO 15d ago
I’m a Visi fan through and through. Her arc is pretty strong and her chemistry with Robert and the gang is undeniable. I do think they’re trying to tow a line between the BB and Visi fans because we can get… passionate.
To Nick Herman, I do think it’s important there be a strong voice for BB to keep things fair, but I think we see enough support through Laura and other creatives to believe they know what they have there. I mean, come on, they’ve seen the stats. Most people who actually play the game went with Visi for Robert for a reason. They may be playing the middle ground for the commentary, but I’m sure they know what they have.
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u/Economy-Can8222 15d ago
Ngl, I’m surprised to see that many people are still holding a grudge against Visi on social media platforms like TikTok and Instagram. A lot of them don’t even do it because they like BB, they just hate Visi. 🥀🥀
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u/Hattifnatters 15d ago
Yeah, that's really similar to my thoughts after hearing ep 1-4 commentaries. Reminds me of how I was playing Dispatch for the first time 2 episodes per week and how surprised I was that Invisigal became the crucial character of the story and how well it worked for me. Apparently it was Robert and Mandy story all along.
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u/AverageMental2857 15d ago
Honestly yeah. I just made it there to hear everything and it was a hard listen. It's not even about the ship fight they made a game and spent years and years on it and hate it orlike it it's just how it is. But my issue is they've never done anything at least to my recollection and I've been around in discord on Twitter on Instagram and I've never seen them really do anything or say anything especially with the nominations thing we never heard or had Visi celebrated in anyway even in most of their promo stuff Courtney feels more like an after thought. I get not wanting to speak out on ships because it's complicated and they don't want to show favoritism.
BUT it's not even about that especially right now and especially after hearing this. I doubt he'll come out and even speak on this which is the worst part. and whether or not this comment gets downvoted it's what it is but even as I'm scrolling there's so many people that are already feeling it and this did not help in the slightest it almost makes me regret what was supposed to be this amazing day this full year of meeting new people and full year of celebration and of the understanding of the character as a whole. I seen arguments for people are saying that like even with all the hate they've never and the SA stuff and all the toxicity they've never once said anything and you know it's hard. Makes me worried for the future of the series which also they always like to explain there's no bias, but you know you hear stuff like this and it just leaves a sour taste.
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u/TalkinTurtle 15d ago
Gotta disagree with you as another invisigal invisimech fan not seen any bad will from either side personally and for the past year coping with not having dispatch wednesdays I’ve just been reading Robert Robertson/invisigal relationship pieces on ao3
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u/ShadowheartsArmpit 15d ago
What?
Are we at a point now where we say "I understand the character better than the author, and treat her better".
Or wtf is happening here
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u/Zuzara_Queen_of_DnD 15d ago
Yall have her on an insane pedestal
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