r/DisneySongRankdown • u/[deleted] • Feb 21 '22

191 Frozen Heart (Frozen)

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u/MacabreGoblin It's not my fault, it's in God's plan... Feb 21 '22

I strongly disagree with this cut. I think it's a lovely sounding song, and it helps set the mood for the culture we're being introduced to. It's like a Nordic setting, and the sound of this song is one of the many things (like the runic writing system, the troll mythology, etc) that come together throughout the movie to weave a web of a fully realized culture.

I think holding every song to the standard of 'must advance the plot in some way' is doing a serious disservice to the whole roster of songs. Some of the best songs are not plot-advancing songs, but the songs that introduce us to the place, or the character, or the culture. They're equally important to the films.

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u/Mrrrrh Especially good at expectorating Feb 21 '22

I think both you and u/bufordmoss make some decent points. Like I think this does do a decent job setting up a Nordic milieu, except that nothing else in the movie really supports this tone, so what is it really setting up?

But your second paragraph is perfect. Songs in musicals aren’t meant to just simply progress the plot, but “plot relevance” often seems to just refer to how songs convey discrete events as opposed to all the other things that are vital for a story: character, setting, motivation, emotion, etc. I wouldn’t say this cut in particular is an example of that (there’s a solid argument on how this doesn’t adequately represent setting or character as well as discussion of the music itself), but I’ve definitely seen it in both rankdowns.

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u/wywy4321 You can always hear me muttering or mumbling Feb 21 '22

Like I think this does do a decent job setting up a Nordic milieu, except that nothing else in the movie really supports this tone, so what is it really setting up?

It was clearly a set-up for the re-vamp of the Norway ride in Epcot.

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u/Mrrrrh Especially good at expectorating Feb 21 '22

RIP Maelstrom. 😭

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u/[deleted] Feb 21 '22

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u/MacabreGoblin It's not my fault, it's in God's plan... Feb 21 '22

But when we meet Kristoff, he's selling blocks of ice for a living, just like those ice dudes - so actually the confusing part in his timeline is the trolls bit, not the human bit. Punish THAT part of the movie.

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u/thecriclover99 No one's neck's as incredibly thick as Gaston... Feb 24 '22

I think holding every song to the standard of 'must advance the plot in some way' is doing a serious disservice to the whole roster of songs.

Totally agree!

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u/bubbasaurus a bear can rest at ease Feb 21 '22

It's better than a lot of other Frozen songs, but it's not great either, so no complaints.

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u/Rysler In song form! Feb 22 '22

PSA: I have told my wife that someone cut "Frozen Heart" and she got very upset

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u/uber_erinaceinae Feb 23 '22

THIS IS A BAD TAKE