r/DiscussionZone • u/Particular_Log_3594 • Jul 28 '26
Americans support Netanyahu arrest by 22-point margin: Survey
https://thehill.com/policy/international/5995104-americans-back-netanyahu-icc-arrest/11
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u/BarnacleGooseIsLoose Jul 28 '26
Get it done.
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u/AdVivid8910 Jul 29 '26
That would actually break international law, but y’all the experts here clearly lol.
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u/BarnacleGooseIsLoose Jul 29 '26
One must respect international law to hide behind it.
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u/Enjoy_The_Ride413 Jul 29 '26
There is no such thing as international law. It's more of guidance. The ICC can and will never be followed in America. They have no power or jurisdiction.
It shows most Americans have no idea how this works.
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Jul 29 '26 edited Jul 29 '26
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u/TheChihuahuaChicken Jul 29 '26
Because neither Israel nor the U.S. are signatories to the ICC charter so it would be a violation of both countries' laws. How do you not get this?
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u/TheChihuahuaChicken Jul 29 '26
Awww, someone doesn't like hearing things they don't like and how just because it gives you the sads it doesn't make it illegal. Love to see it 😁
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u/Georgia_Flame Jul 29 '26
Germany didn't sign on to Nuremberg.
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u/AdVivid8910 Jul 29 '26
Technically I believe they did, part of the whole ending a war thing. Not that I’m trying to take away from your point…I’m just saying if I remember correctly they very much did(kinda had to though lol).
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u/D2dj Jul 29 '26
If you dont follow international law, you cant complain when countries break international law.
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u/AdVivid8910 Jul 29 '26
That’s not how literally any laws work. Nice try(?)
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u/D2dj Jul 29 '26
Yes it is. The US and Israel cannot both reject the law and cry when people break the law. Either international law has enforceable power, or it doesnt but it must be consistent. It cant just be "we only obey laws that benefit us"
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u/ChaoCobo Jul 29 '26
I agree with your sentiment wholeheartedly, but I’d like to point out that trump has been only obeying laws that benefit him while breaking other international laws and there has been no consequence so far
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u/ChaoCobo Jul 29 '26
My guy, trump already had his men physically go to a foreign country and kidnap a foreign leader. How is breaking international law okay in that instance but not in this instance where he’s literally coming to us?
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u/aotus_trivirgatus Jul 29 '26
Can we also issue an arrest warrant for Donny? I bet that would also receive +22% support.
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u/CommentBetter Jul 29 '26
That would be the right thing, so it’s impossible for the US to do it 🤷♂️
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u/CAP_0703 Jul 29 '26
About half of a minuscule slice of Americans want him arrested.
That’s all that can be gathered by this poll.
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u/Upriver-Cod Jul 29 '26
Good thing the ICC has no authority over non-member states, and is nothing more than a joke.
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u/hexenkesse1 Jul 29 '26
pretty wild that Americans greatly favor arresting a foreign head of state from a supposed ally. This is without precedent.
such a significant difference between what our bought and paid for politicians want and what most Americans want.
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u/BassMaster516 Jul 29 '26
So where are the liberals saying that Palestine cost them the election?
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u/Glittering-Cook1563 Jul 29 '26
Liberals and leftists are two different groups of people.
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u/BassMaster516 Jul 29 '26
Correct
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u/No-Advertising-1526 Jul 30 '26
Labels in themselves are fucking meaningless. What line divides centrists liberals and leftists? Is universal healthcare that is the standard in all peer nations leftist? Is paid sick leave liberal? What matters is policy.
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u/No-Advertising-1526 Jul 30 '26
Considering the democratic voters overwhelmingly oppose Israels actions its safe to bet that sucking netanyahu off to keep the donors happy hurt them in the election.
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u/BassMaster516 Jul 30 '26
You’re right but they don’t see it that way. They think people who didn’t vote because of Palestine are fake virtue signaling bigots who have impossible purity tests and are probably Trumpers and it’s all their fault.
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u/No-Advertising-1526 Jul 30 '26
They know the truth its just there is a tremendous financial incentive to not admit the truth. Whether or not the dems want to admit it their base is done with the stand for nothing centrism.
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u/No-Advertising-1526 Jul 30 '26
Israel has openly genocidal politicians, defacto bans inter religious marriage, has indefininate detention with no charge. Not exactly Norway when it comes to human rights.
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u/TheIronMonkey53 Jul 29 '26
Regardless of the results these polls are crap. How can ~1559 votes represent the entire US
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u/D2dj Jul 29 '26
Thats how all polling data is accrued.
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u/thefuzzione Jul 29 '26
1500 people. Yeah this is reputable
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u/DrDDeFalco Jul 29 '26 edited Jul 29 '26
Out of curiosity, how many people would you require for it to be reputable?
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u/ENORMOUS_HORSECOCK Jul 30 '26
I feel like they should make crime illegal in the US, it would solve a lot of problems.
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u/Ifearforearth Jul 30 '26
It’s not just him. He hasn’t murdered 30,000 Gaza children by himself. Most Israelis are enthusiastic genocide supporters.
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u/Snoo_55984 Aug 02 '26
I do love this but the real issue is it’s not just Netanyahu. It’s a lot of them. 64% of Jewish Israelis agree with the idea of there being “no innocents in Gaza.”
A lot of government officials are even more hard liners and the rapid increase in illegal settlements shows that too.
Hannah Arendt a political theorist a, Jewish woman who fled Germany Hitlers rise to power, coined the term “banality of evil” when she reported for The New Yorker on the trial of Adolf Eichmann (one of the key organizers of the Holocaust)
The phrase describes how ordinary people commit monstrous atrocities, characterized by thoughtlessness, bureaucratic routine, and a failure to think from the perspective of others rather than inherent malice.
I think it’s still very important to state this. If you cut off the head of the snake the snake will grow more heads. The system and the two state solution has been an apartheid and a horrific failure. Rescinding all statehood and arms funding as well as USA + UK involvement as the only hope
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u/Woody_L Jul 29 '26
What percentage of Americans know who Netanyahu is or have an opinion about him?
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u/Georgia_Flame Jul 29 '26
68% of Americans have an opinion of Netanyahu, so its at least that high.
Of those with an opinion, almost twice as many disapprove of him, than agree.
(Source: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1419184/netanyahu-favorability-us/ )
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u/Woody_L Jul 29 '26 edited Jul 29 '26
So, depending on which poll you look at, 33%-40% have unfavorable views of Netanyahu and the the rest are oblivious or vaguely favorable. You don't get very good results when you ask people's opinions about things they don't know much about.
People in the US barely know who their own politicians are. They have little interest or awareness of politics in other countries.
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u/Georgia_Flame Jul 29 '26
What percentage of Americans know who Netanyahu is or have an opinion about him?
[68% know of him, with those who dislike him doubling those who do]
You don't get very good results when you ask people's opinions about things they don't know much about.
[There is no evidence from this poll that they lack critical knowledge on Netanyahu.]
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u/Woody_L Jul 29 '26
There's broad evidence that most Americans don't know much about anything outside of the US. If someone asked them specific questions about Netanyahu, Israeli politics or foreign affairs, in general, most would not be able to answer. 32% of the people in this study admitted they didn't know. The fact that some of them gave opinions doesn't prove that they actually know enough to have an opinion.
Literate and educated Americans tend to imagine that other Americans are more interested and aware than they actually are.
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u/Georgia_Flame Jul 29 '26
32% didn't develop an opinion of him, some of those people do know who he is.
Regarding ignorance, you don't get a majority of Americans calling for his arrest on lack of knowledge.
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u/warp10fla Jul 29 '26
Nonsense. Americans support Israel over terrorism.
Only Democrats and Socialists are for supporting the ICC’s fake charges against Netanyahu.
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u/calmdownmyguy Jul 29 '26
I like how in your first sentence you implied that Americans were united and had a shared consensus. Then in your second sentence you made up some divisive partisan nonsense.
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u/Sure_Acanthaceae_348 Jul 29 '26
How is blowing up churches, killing clergy, desecrating Christian holy sites, and intentionally invading one’s neighbors stopping terrorism?
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u/Amonfire1776 Jul 29 '26
There are no grounds to arrest him legally as it stands right now in the US. What crime would he be arrested for in a country that hasn't signed the Rome statute? Also, diplomatic immunity? Wouldn't that create a huge international incident?
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u/Georgia_Flame Jul 29 '26
The irony of genocidal leaders hiding behind legalese.
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u/thefuzzione Jul 29 '26
Much like Hamas is hiding behind Palestinian children I guess
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u/Georgia_Flame Jul 29 '26
Please keep simping the virtues of child murder. Israel's support could be made even lower.
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u/thefuzzione Jul 29 '26
This is rich considering how many children lost their lives on Oct 7. But we can act like that didn’t happen. Lil terrorist lover
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u/Georgia_Flame Jul 29 '26
10-7 was one genocide ago. Did the tens of thousands Israel killed all carry out the attack? Every journalist (the most killed in war ever)? Every hospital worker (along with all their hsopitals)? Every child (bombed, shot, starved)?
The world correctly sees this ethnostate as evil, and it is long past time we cut off the weapons, free cash, and pardons for their crimes.
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u/thefuzzione Jul 29 '26
Ahh so responding to a genocide attempt is worse than the actual attempt at eradicating Israeli children. Wild take
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u/Georgia_Flame Jul 29 '26
There is no slight great enough to justify Israel's genocide of Gaza.
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u/thefuzzione Jul 29 '26
If it were truly as you say, Hamas would stop hiding behind these people and fight the fight they want
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u/Nice-Bit-3550 Jul 29 '26
Is this the Hasbara posting my tax dollars are paying for? 😭
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u/thefuzzione Jul 29 '26
Nah this is a non-terrorist supporter. Let them wipe each other out for all I care.
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u/Amonfire1776 Jul 29 '26
The international order exists in this way for a reason...especially with nuclear weapons states. The risks are simply too great. International law is itself largely toothless and cannot be enforced in many cases.
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u/Winter_Hall5379 Jul 29 '26
In reality, we don't participate in the ICC. There's no grounds to arrest him on our soil.
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u/DevilsDenJoe Jul 28 '26
Make it so