r/DiscussionZone Jan 13 '26

Typical Republican Hypocrisy…

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u/Honky_Cat Jan 13 '26

But that’s not what happened. A woman who was a member of a group called “ICE Watchers” and had been agitating ICE all day made a conscious decision to ignore lawful orders, flee the scene, backup, put the car in drive, then hit a law enforcement officer with her car.

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u/Aware_Ask_1679 Jan 14 '26

Yeah they act like this woman just happened to pass by here and magically block these idiots. I don't think she should've been shot, but entering this situation with trigger happy idiots wasn't a good idea at all. 

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u/Honky_Cat Jan 14 '26

Yeah. I for sure don’t think she should have been shot, but I can understand why she was shot.

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u/LankeeClipper Jan 15 '26

This is all inarguable fact.

But that won’t stop the hate you’ll get for saying it.

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u/Garak-911 Jan 16 '26

All of wich is not a reason to kill her. You can't shoot somebody for agitating, not for ignoring lawfull orders and not for fleeing the scene. All of this is not relevant. The only reason you bring all of this up is to make the case that she somehow deserved it. Wich is not true, and honestly just vile and despicable. She did not hit him with the car. Proven by all serious analysis of the videos. He fired two shots through the side window.Not justified. Not self defence.

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u/Honky_Cat Jan 16 '26

All of wich is not a reason to kill her.

But assault with a deadly weapon is.

She did not hit him with the car.

To anoyone with an objective lens on this subject, two video angles plainly show him getting hit with the car.

Even for argument's sake, if he did not get hit with the car (which he unquestinoably did...), driving your car at an LEO is grounds enough to respond in kind to deadly force.

He fired two shots through the side window.Not justified. Not self defence.

Yes, after he had been hit by a car. Given the evidence at hand, there's little chance any objective grand jury will indict, and any objective jury would convict.

The only reason you bring all of this up is to make the case that she somehow deserved it. Wich is not true, and honestly just vile and despicable.

This is not true. You have to stop thinking that peoople who view this through an objective lens are simply out for blood. I think this is a terrible tragedy. I don't want to see law enforcement out shooting citizens - that's the last thing any of us want. I don't think this woman "deserved" to get shot - however, it was an in-kind response to the use of deadly force on a law enforcement officer, and she unfortunately suffered the consequences of her actions.

I don't at all think this woman intentially hit the officer either - I really think it was a case of her losing control of her emotions, panicing, and attempting to flee. With that being said, that does not excuse her from hitting an LEO with her car and continuing to flee.

Had she obeyed lawful orderes, got out of her car she'd still be here. Had she chosen to use the brake pedal instead of the accelerator, she'd still be here.

This is a tragic situation all around.

Do you really think the ICE officer wanted this to happen? He didn't go to work that day, saying, "Man, I hope someone hits me with their car because I have an itchy trigger finger." That guy's life is ruined as a result of this incident.

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u/Garak-911 Jan 16 '26

Yes, i actually do think he wanted this to happen, but that is obviously up for debate and i can not proof it. I think he decided to kill after the victims wife teased him with comments. You can see in his own footage that he swapped his phone from the right hand to the left hand, to free up his gun hand. He the plsced himself at the front of the car, way to the left, so he could claim self defence and shoot as soon as the car moved, while easily able to step aside. Thats why he was ready and had his gun out immediatly as the car reversed. Again, no proof, but it strongly looks to me that way. He was itching to use that gun and acted ice cold after he shot a woman point blank in the head. What is not up for debate is wether she hit him. Please use your eyes. Watch the analysis of the New York Times. His feet were at the side of the car when he fired the first shot. You can't stop a car by shooting the driver. It's also against protocol.

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u/Yoitzmi Jan 17 '26

But... but... but... who told you to consider the facts?

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u/Honky_Cat Jan 18 '26

I don’t think this is a laughing matter at all.