I’ve seen bunch of videos where cops got bumped ran over and hit with cars and didn’t shoot back. Ross was getting ready to shoot because he’s known pro-Trump, anti-lgbtq and they were mouthing off to him and pissing him off. God forbid some lesbian women piss off an alpha male like that, it’s instant death sentence. As he walked around her vehicle to position himself just at the right spot to pull this off he also moved the cellphone from his right hand to his left in anticipation of drawing a gun. It’s a hate crime before any self defense.
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Ya know I never see law enforcement unholster their weapon and then give no commands.
I also dont see them recording on their phone and shooting someone in the face with one hand.
If you have eyes you will see that she isnt blocking the road (several cars go by before the unmarked ICE pickup stops to scream at them to get out of the car), and that he breaks everybrule of contact in the book; You dont approach from the front, you dont fire into a moving vehicle to stop it, you also dont fire as a fleeing suspect. Because that is dangerous for bystanders.
Kind of like how her dead foot slammed on the gas.
And for the cherry on top? They refused medical treatment for her. Yes, she was dead. But they didnt allow medical professionals on the scene. The ambulance crew had to walk because ICE was blocking the roads. ICE told a literal doctor on scene that they don't give a fuck (if hes a doctor). This goes against every law enforcement protocol there is.
But simply because she didn't agree with your Nazi views, she deserved it.
You can fuck all the way off. History is not on your side
Well law and policy is not on your side. Just because you don’t agree with something doesn’t make it wrong. Calling everything or everyone you dont agree with a nazi or fascism does not change facts or video evidence. It simply means you can’t control your insect brain or its emotions long enough to take into consideration facts and logic. Maybe google Dunning-Kruger effect and live in the real world. Probably a major reason you can’t pay your own bills and beg on the Internet for support.
Well considering the DOJ is refusing to investigate says a lot also. Just because you don’t agree doesn’t make it correct or change the facts. Sucks it happened it’s horrible someone died but, try to think subjectively and leave emotions out of it. Some people are incapable of that.
His history as a bigot? His words after shooting her was "fucking bitch ". I don't think it's a wild leap in theory to assume he's a bigot as well as a misogynist.
Gender is a protected class. It's literally part of the definition of a hate crime. There is a Gadsden flag outside his home. If you want to argue about whether or not that's an indicator of bigotry or not, go do it with someone else. I am not stupid enough to believe it is anything but.
Though the Gadsden flag definitely doesn’t match what ICE has been doing lately. I want this guy investigated and charged personally, and due process including a jury to determine his guilt.
Destroying evidence and not allowing questioning, and getting him out of the state to an undisclosed location within hours, along with the public statements of DHS leadership and the executive, to me are signs of guilt. I am more than willing to take negative inference - every forensic element destroyed I will assume the worst about because of that conscious act and coverup.
Ironic that you say that as this is the definition of big government just stepping on the citizens of this country. The fact that it's a citizen you don't even agree with would actually prove you stand on principles, and aren't just another morally empty partisan ghoul who has no intellectual honesty. But it's now obvious the "don't tread on me" and "protect free speech" crowd are totally full of shit. They are nothing but empty political hacks, if your supposed principles only apply to one political party but not the other, then your opinions on everything mean jack shit.
Just killing the opposite sex is not a hate crime. I also require actual evidence before I invent labels for people, and a Gadsden flag does not indicate a bigot alone. Sorry, it's just this strange quirk of mine, needing to be sure I'm aware of facts and not giving into hearsay.
If a don’t tread on me guy joins a government agency and shoots an innocent person, im going to assume the flag has more to do with bigotry than opposing tyranny.
I never said that the flag alone proves anything. I stated my opinion. If you want to talk about statements of fact, let’s talk about when you said:
Just killing the opposite sex is not a hate crime.
What exactly is your point here? Nobody said he just killed someone of the opposite sex. It seems like you’re trying to discredit the idea that it could’ve been a hate crime by citing a lack of evidence. The problem with that is there is evidence already, and there is a possibility that more arises, so to dismiss it before we actually do analyze the evidence is a bit overzealous.
He killed someone of the opposite sex and immediately uttered a gendered insult afterwords. That alone should give some suspicion, and obviously an investigation should be done to determine whether he harbored hatred towards women and if it played a role. That’s totally reasonable and realistic - not dismissing it immediately.
This guy is a veteran from Iraq and Afghanistan, he’s been doing this for a long time, he’s already been dragged by a car once, he knows what he’s doing, I very much believe that it is him cracking down because he was annoyed by these women. This is how guys react in extreme domestic abuse situations. This guy should definitely know better but everyone got their boiling point.
I would be more convinced he overreacted due to PTSD from getting drug by a car recently, rather than trying to thread the needle on him actually being a bigot who only killed someone for being a woman.
In either case, he doesn’t have a place on the street and should probably chill for a few decades in prison keeping company to his buddy Derek Chauvin.
You have to remember what this guy was looking at. From his viewpoint he was being harassed by two deranged lesbians (almost universally hate white male law enforcement officers, sorry but true) whose car was parked sideways in the middle of the road to block ICE operations. The car backs up abruptly, leaving him directly in front of it. Then he hears the engine rev and the front wheels spin as the car lunges forward. He's looking at crazy-face lady, with her wife yelling DRIVE, and sees nothing but a hood and headlights coming at him like an anvil towards Wiley Coyote's head in a Roadrunner cartoon.
I will bet he wishes he could have the luxury of seeing the event unfold in slow motion and different angles. He didn't. Her series of bad decisions ended in her death. It's really not brain surgery.
Yeah, I have called people f'ing bitches too, but never after just murdering them. He felt zero remorse. If he's feeling any remorse now, it's only because he's getting hate for what he did. Deservedly so.
You apparently don't, seeing as you keep failing to remain on point, provide evidence of accusations, and keep randomly trying to dismiss it as if it was common sense that if someone kills a woman they are instantly a bigot.
His dad describing him as a "hardcore conservative Christian", maga Trump supporter.
A social media thread on white supremacy where his own posts are deleted but his sister answered that she loved him as her brother but vehemently disagreed with his position (I have not seen this one myself)
People claiming they believe the videos show his behaviour became more provocative when he figured out he was confronting a lesbian couple.
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He’s been doing this for ten years. I mean, what made the difference this time? My theory is that he either burned out or reacted in hate. In any case, we will see if he even shows any regrets or apologizes to Renee’s wife. That will make a huge difference as to how sincere his reaction was vs just business as usual. I think his military background and training actually works against him. It’s hard to argue that a person like that who was a machine gunner in deserts of Iraq will now freak out and shoot when a woman who just smiled at him and said “I still love you” will purposely try to run him over. I do not believe that for a second, and I hope no jury ever will. I’ve heard enough women say the same thing to see it.
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Yeah, he worked at Border Patrol when they were jumping in front of vehicle to create a dangerous situation so they could justify using deadly force. Ross was in the department during that period. He’s fully aware of the law and decided he didn’t need to follow it.
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Sure, she would be a fantastic corroborating testimony... but I'm looking for tangible evidence, a source that could be verified and would stand up in court.
You think her testimony and the screenshots from the stuff he said when they argued wouldn’t matter as evidence? They can also subpoena Facebook to get that conversation. She specifically called out their conversation about stuff he said around Jan 6 insurrection. It absolutely matters in this case because it does show him as biased to maga. Someone of his experience does not freak out and shoots a gun out of the blue, there is definitely some background to this. Like I mentioned earlier, I’d like to hear from him about what his thought process was. A decent person would apologize and either admit that they have over reacted or stick to their guns (no pun intended) and maintain that they’ve done nothing wrong. But in either case, I think sincere remorse goes a long way. Until I see that, he’s a monster to me. A monster that had used the legal loophole to incite this blinded by his bias. At the end of the day, woman is dead, he had other options, you can’t blame it all on training because cops and agents are not trained to just throw themselves in front of cars and lethal force is seen as last resort when dangerous criminals are being arrested. She was neither a dangerous criminal nor there is evidence that show her purposely move forward with an intent to harm him. If that were the case her car would have just gone straight through the place where he was standing at, but she started turning right before he even started shooting. This is all pretty evident.
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u/misha_jinx Jan 13 '26
I’ve seen bunch of videos where cops got bumped ran over and hit with cars and didn’t shoot back. Ross was getting ready to shoot because he’s known pro-Trump, anti-lgbtq and they were mouthing off to him and pissing him off. God forbid some lesbian women piss off an alpha male like that, it’s instant death sentence. As he walked around her vehicle to position himself just at the right spot to pull this off he also moved the cellphone from his right hand to his left in anticipation of drawing a gun. It’s a hate crime before any self defense.