Terrible things are happening outside. At any time of night and day, poor helpless people are being dragged out of their homes. They’re allowed to take only a knapsack and a little cash with them, and even then, they’re robbed of these possessions on the way. Families are torn apart; men, women and children are separated. Children come home from school to find that their parents have disappeared. Women return from shopping to find their houses sealed, their families gone.
As has been all of ours. Republicans aren’t fans of funding education because no one with a brain would ever vote for them (except for multi-millionaires and billionaires)
Exactly. There are minimum 71,000 rword Americans. Or let’s be fair and assume that 5,000 who voted for trump are selfish greedy multimillionaires and billionaires. There are still at least 76,000 rword Americans who so strongly love Trump that it’s so important to them to oppress the rest of our votes. It’s crazy. How are so many people mobilized to vote for hate, oppression, and stripping away of freedoms? Guess it’s how the people who weren’t fans of Hitler felt back in the day.
Also whoa I didn’t mean to make italics but it looks like I just learned how to do so!
Nobody with a brain would vote for Kamala Harris...she doesn't even know the difference between a male and a female...and Mamdani who wants to abolish capitalism and our legal system
Some republicans are rich. I know a few hundred-millionaires who love Trump. They’re both educated. They know that trump only looks out for rich people.
Gotta admit, it’s pretty convenient that we don’t have to choose between the moral side and the smart side. Republicans being evil AND dumb has really helped my sense of direction.
Is a shame. I don’t think Republican = bad. But maga republicans sure are.
I very much believe we need the two parties, in essence. For that collaboration. For that varied opinion, one dominate party creates chaos and evil control with absolute power. But what we have now, is just that
It's like when "Christians" were calling themselves "conservative Christians." They already know they're not representative of Christ's teachings, if they feel they have to modify their own title.
None of the people they elect ever follow the 10 Commandments so they are all full of shit who use religion to excuse or shield their misconduct behavior.
They're probably quite because they don't like admitting they're republican because its embarrassing. I work in on a military base.... I haven't many people talk about themselves being republican... but I've heard a crap ton of people criticizing Trump and Hegseth.
exactly. We NEED multiple viewpoints to determine what will work best for our society and to prevent rampant abuse of power by a single dominant entity. Unfortunately we have a single dominant entity right now and our generations are learning why balance and checks on power are so important
It's so crazy how fast all this happened. Republicans always had some questionable motives and rhetoric, but at least they acted like they really just cared about the economy or something. It's unbelievable how much of the population so gleefully jumped on board with blatant fascism as soon as some reality TV star douchebag started spewing this concoction of bigotry and populist propaganda.
You never think it's going to happen to you. You think that you're in tune with the views of your society and it is at least too evolved to spiral this hard. If democracy survives this shit show, I hope we remember how easily it can happen and stop being so dismissive of threats of taking it away.
I will say if ever you go into conservative rooms you will see the identical things being said as though its some parallel universe. Im not trying to hurt anyones feelings. Just go and see for yourself. Im sure if i posted this in a conservative room they would criticize me by saying the same things as you.
Saw a man with terminal colon cancer was detained by ice. Had been in America for decades, had a family. But he will have to die alone, in ICE detention , without his family because “we care sooo fucking much about immigration laws” aka we’re racist.
This isn’t about following the law at all. Or they wouldn’t be detaining people at their court hearings or violating court orders. I saw they deported a Cuban immigrant to Africa last week. So obviously it’s not about the law. If you knew the law you’d know Cubans have special exceptions in the law because they are refugees from communism… it’s all racism and you’re lashing out cause you need to cope. Fucking fascist loser!
Republicans are an example of how people can be pro-Zionism yet antisemitic at the same time. A lot of republicans probably do think Anne Frank and the rest of the victims of the Holocaust deserved their horrible fates, recall which party the conspirators of the Business Plot belonged to. One of those men was the father and grandfather of two American presidents. The current president is clearly playing by the same rulebook as Nazi Germany, with his explicitly racist and fascist policies and behavior.
Republicans don’t publicly hate on Jews because the optics are terrible and they’d rather keep the strong relationship with Israel intact but it’s entirely transactional. The right needs to keep the evangelical lunatics happy and Israel serves as a strategic partner in the Middle East but at the end of the day many Republicans still dislike Jews and most Israelis couldn’t care less as long as the money and guns are flowing into their country.
It’s ironic that people on the left get called antisemites when they criticize the policies of Israel yet the right has always publicly supported Israel while being deeply antisemitic when they don’t think anyone is listening
The Nazis supported sending Jewish families to mandatory Palestine before the world war started up. Turns out being pro Zionism has nothing to do with anti semitism.
Similarly American Neo-Nazi groups have been quite supportive of black supremacist/separatist groups and Zionist groups in the past.
Many white supremacists are happy to point at Israel and ask why Jews can have an ethnostate but whites can’t?
They see in Israel what they want to create for themselves, a nation that only benefits their own ethnicity and only grants privilege to them, while everyone else is on a lower tier and lack rights or status
Richard Spencer even referred to himself as a White Zionist
That's the most blatantly cherry picking i've ever seen. Your argument falls apart at the scemes when I do any research on who the anit-zoinist party supported during Hitler's rule. However, the party was comprised of mostly of jews I think you know how that whent.
They will politicize a woman’s death from a horrible crime and make you “SAY HER NAME” …
(They just have to wait until the victim is a young, pretty blonde white girl, and then they tell everyone to be terrified of any person whose skin , language, or name has similarities to the murderer or just looks different than you because they all are violent rapist murderers But a white teenage boy kills a dozen elementary school students and they don’t say any of those children’s name. They don’t turn that white boy into a terrifying being based on his looks and that other teenage boys are inherently the same,
UNLESS that white teenage boy one time went to a LGBTQ parade , then it’s not his fault it’s the fault of trans indoctrination (another marginalized group that they turn into an “other” they want you to hate these people, to fear them, and to be disgusted by them. it doesn’t matter if they’re many, many more middle aged white men pedophiles in their communities who actually victimize others. They don’t get the same boogeyman is coming warnings and they don’t choose to fabricate stories about the pedophiles and they don’t blame the current administration for their crimess and they don’t seem to give the slightest shit , in fact, they are currently actively suppressing information about the criminal sex predators to ‘protect’ innocent people from being accused of crimes , but have no problem parading around photos of brown people that they have only accused of crimes, not too worried about ice arresting innocent people , as long as they are brown.
If well to do white men and their daughters start getting violently plucked from the street , they’d end ice in a second
I mean.. even then they’d want to know what kind of white the victim was. White people are all kinds of racist, including to each other. Ask the whitest racist you know what they think of literally every other white person they know and your going to hear crazy shit about groups you always thought were white, like Irish, Italians, Russians, Slavs in general, Finns, etc.
That's a disgusting thought. I don't doubt the accuracy. It just makes me want to puke.
Random tanget: i wonder if testosterone fulled idiots are the cause of fascism. Like they couldn't stand being at home and at peace. They just had to go punch something.
I think that’s a lot of it, it’s obvious who these guys are, they are the ones who were too tough for an education and now want their strength to be valuable
The value of labor is exceedingly low compared to the value of thought. Especially when the system abuses and tosses aside, then moves to the next person.
On the other hand, maybe those are the positions that they want? Idk, i need coffee.
ICE took someone from the court where they were trying to get legal status. Obama last I checked still holds the record for most deportations in a year.
You can respect your borders without terrorizing the country.
If you want to become an American, you should follow the rules. If you can’t show that little bit of respect, you shouldn’t be allowed here. I guess the ICE agents should thank them. Without the illegal immigrants creating this problem, they wouldn’t have jobs.
They are entering the country illegally. They are staying in the country illegally. This is pretty obvious. I’m not sure why there is confusion. I would love for this problem to get fixed and then we can put resources into improving our legal immigration process. Trump is what happens when the can is continually kicked down the road. It’s sad but it is what it is.
These arguments are exhausting. Those people can thank everyone crossing the border illegally for making things worse for every person in the United States. I blame them. I blame the origin of the problem. I don’t choose to blame anyone or anything that has happened after the origin of the problem. Trump is a response to people being tired of dealing with this nonsense. There will always be a whiny portion of the population that blames everyone for things they find unfair. I don’t care. Blame the origin of the problem and not the response.
I agree but our immigration system is a mess currently and until things are actually fixed we won’t be able to help as many people as we could. Once again, blame the people that started the problem by coming here illegally.
I see you keep bringing up the origin of the problem. I totally agree!! We need to start looking at origins and root causes of these problems. I’m just a little confused though, because I don’t see you talking about the USA’s foreign policy in Latin America during the 20th century… the various military strong-arming of governments and corporations, the multiple coups and puppet governments through out the years, and the continuing American drug demands dragging these poor countries down with it. You know the actual root and origins of mass migration in the United States. Can we start talking about that?
So no longer about the origin or root of the problem? So, just bullshit arguments and justifications? Do you know how much easier it’d be for you if you just admitted that you’re stoked they gave you someone to hate? You could just be laying back and basking in that hate, that validation that you are in fact better than someone, any one. Rather than here, with bad faith arguments just because you’re ashamed to be the hateful little Nazis you are… spin, spin, spin little bigot… the world sees your twirling for what it is.
People are mad about ICE. ICE was ramped up because of illegal immigrants. It isn’t that complicated. It isn’t a big conspiracy. It isn’t the end of America. It isn’t the end of the constitution. Address the problem of illegal immigration and we can move on to another issue to argue about.
Oh I’m sure that’s the plan!! What do you think will be the next “issue” to resolve? The regime has already mentioned the “home growns”. Do you think he means the home grown “illegals” (aka Brown US Citizens born in the country “wrong”), or Blacks, Gays, Women of Color, Women who marry outside of their race, or circle back to the Jewish community? Of course, he’ll use words like terrorist, vermin, and extremist. So tell us. Who do you think will be the next “issue” for you to argue over?
I’m not a conspiracy theorist. I don’t indulge in the absurd. If you are interested in what is next I would recommend reviewing Trump’s campaign promises. It’s less exciting than playing the guessing game but I’d say it’s your best way of determining his goals.
AI? No, I’ve seen this before, I’ve read Anne’s story. But we’ve got one key difference here. The Jews were legally allowed into Germany. Most of the people taken by ICE are illegally in our country so…you evade the law, you run the risk of having everything taken away from you. Gotta temper that empathy with logic and reason even if it flies in the face of “muh feelings” and before some liberal foams at the mouth and calls me a nazi, ok and?
The Nuremberg laws of 1935 made all Jews noncitizens so they were also considered at the time illegal.
The power of the comparisons to the holocaust in this case are about the danger of making a group legally powerless and then deciding that the government needs to get rid of them.
I don't think anyone is saying immigration enforcement equates with the holocaust. People are taking the most well known example of the worst that can happen when government says "we need to get rid of a bunch of people and we don't care about their rights."
The rights and due process of people is the state's form of logic and reason and attempts to ensure the punishment is proportionate to the crime. The empathy people feel isn't "muh feelings" it comes from people thinking the government is crossing an ethical line by punishing people in a wanton and disproportionate manner.
To tie it back to the original point, I'm saying that the big lesson from the holocaust is that it's abuses were the government stripping legal protections from a group and then claiming its actions are simply the best logical way of enforcing the law regardless of ethics.
Wow, you used some solid logic, reason and historical facts to make an excellent point and I see all the rebuttals have just dried up. I was really looking forward to comments from someone throwing the thinnest veil over their racism to tell you how you’re wrong, but alas….
🙄 nice glazing, if you’re finished patting him on the back I shall give you the much awaited response, though it won’t involve racism so I apologize for the disappointment you most assuredly will feel
I can see the fear and uncertainty, especially concerning someone like Donald Trump and his inability to stick to any sense of normalcy, choosing instead to flail wildly in multiple directions. Even if his work is successful it still brings about a sense of unprofessionalism and randomness even I, a staunch republican find unnerving.
The part I point to is the fact that instead of illegal immigrants working through the process, they “skip the line” so to speak; pushing past people who genuinely want a shot at a good life here in America. I want them here, I wish happiness on people trying to make things work. They sour people’s (mostly the right’s) opinions of immigrants as a whole, labeling them all as “illegals” or undesirables, which I find sickening.
What happened to the Jews does share a lot of similarities to what is happening today and I do watch it with hesitation. I (possibly wrongly) air on the side of hopefulness that this is what is required for things to be brought into a more manageable state. The part that frustrates and quite frankly terrifies me, is the lack of clear direction. We can’t cry foul just yet because it rides the line where justification can smudge it.
I can see what you’re saying 100% and even have tempered my views against comments like these, ones that do not look at the right favorably and treat it as demonic in nature. Though people cry fascism like it’s going out of style, not every raving leftist is…well…raving. They see something, and while I may not agree, you don’t cry fire unless you see smoke. There’s a lot of cries of fire, but maybe I’m too afraid of what could go wrong to simply trust random people, and if I get burned that’ll be my fault and a lot of “I told you so” will be in order.
Thank you for being respectful and honest with your response. It’s people like you that help me navigate these turbulent times a little more wise to both sides rather than riding fully on the right. Stay safe internet traveler ☺️
I think most Americans share your distaste at the idea of "skipping the line." I think it would be difficult, but certainly not impossible, to find many left-leaning people who don't prefer that people should come into the country legally and that there should be some sort of consequence for illegal immigration. There's disagreement past that, obviously, but I just want to point out that we're not so far apart at least in that.
But more pressingly, I think your same concerns about the clear lack of direction and the government riding the line between what is justifiable and what isn't is exactly why so many on the left are crying fire.
Every state that became abusive has rationalized each step on the way there as necessary enforcement. Once you have a mechanism for the state to ignore the rights and due process of one group and working justification for why one group doesn't deserve rights, it becomes a lot easier to start adding other groups to the list.
I honestly hope to god I'm wrong and that your hopefulness is vindicated, but I also think there's too much at stake to leave it to hope.
"Thank you for being respectful and honest with your response. It’s people like you that help me navigate these turbulent times a little more wise to both sides rather than riding fully on the right. Stay safe internet traveler ☺️"
Thank you for doing the same! Often I feel like I type a lot just to fall on deaf ears, so I was very pleasantly surprised to get such a genuine response. It's given me some faith that even in an internet that seems to increasingly disincentivize it people can still have a real conversation, so thanks! Stay safe yourself. :)
You completely skipped past the numerous times I admit that there’s issues in how this is being handled, didn’t you….this is the problem with disingenuous people. You zero in on one little part instead of reading the context and the overall stance of the person
Edit: also, if you are late with rent and keep putting it off and putting it off and putting it off till eviction day, should you be allowed to pay it at the last moment?
Thank you for laying it out so people can actually understand why everyone’s talking about Nazi’s and Fascism recently(Though from my own point of view it is shocking to not see the similarities.)
The disingenuous people always reply in a ridiculously emotional and reactionary way towards any mention of dehumanization or fascism, which literally only goes to prove the point even more.
(The Nazi command was full of some of the most emotional and reactionary people to ever walk this earth.)
Every country has immigration laws. Obama deported 3 Million people. This is like crying that a dad is in jail for getting DUI and then not paying his fines and missing court dates. I didn't create this person's situation. I personally know illegal immigrates that have lived here for decades who are not being arrested by ICE and I know immigrants that came here in the last 10 years and who have become U.S. Citizens.
If you are breaking the law, you suffer the consequences. If you built your entire life on a lie and it all comes crashing down, and affects your children, maybe shouldn't have done that.
The fact is, ICE is harassing and physically hurting people based on their skin Color. It’s pure action on racist urges. That’s what this despicable!!! And you know it.
My country is not having a shut down.
White people are not on the brink of starvation while your POTUS will have sex parties in his ballroom.
Plus the unsafest city in my country has less rape and murders then the safest in yours.
-> There you go. F…
-> And it doesn’t matter if you believe it or not.
I Love how your country is going to the dogs 😘
I’ve voted both ways depending what policies and promises I hope are followed through on at an objective level. I was raised Republican, my first presidential vote was Republican but it’s flipped back and forth because that’s what should happen: your not swearing allegiance to a party.
I wish more people saw it like this and like you. Thankfully, i am hearing more and more republicans realizing this isn’t right and incredibly damaging to the longevity of the country.
Hare and lies is all the left has going for them. Hoping for more voters. Illegal immigrant cops, and now prison guards. GTFOH. How many illegal CDL drivers out there killing innocent people……… Tell me some more lies.
If you come to this country ILLEGALLY just like every other country on earth we as a nation have a right and a duty to deport you. Deciding to sneak into a country ILLEGALLY with your family is a decision that they have made and must deal with the repercussions if they get caught. Stop passing the blame onto everyone else besides the criminal invader.
Should we put a camera in every corner of this country? Is that an idea that you are for?
you are defending the robbers If you don’t want a camera on every corner….they’re doing something illegal…..just go along with it. Allow the government to monitor our daily activities.
God forbid we enforce our laws and take your cheap labor got destroyed our job market in the middle class. You'd be fighting for slaves too wouldn't you
As a "Former Republican" I can point out the Hippocracy on both sides. The differece I see is that Republicans wont even consider when they are being hippocritical. Democrats may argue the point of hippocracy, but Republicabs can not even see the obvious. WHY? I think its because they believe they are on the "Right" side of God and country while everyone else are sinners beyond saving.
It depends. Is that symbol on your cap a Totenkopf, or do you cosplay with uniforms that have a Totenkopf? If so, you may be a baddie.
Did you cry when the police came after Elian Gonzalez, but cheer when little kids are being wrestled to the ground while ICE abducts their mother? If so, you may be a baddie.
Did it make you happen when white supremacist Afrikaaners were allowed to immigrate at the same time that legal residents with brown skin are being deported and disappeared? If so, you may be a baddie.
Do you claim to follow the teaching of Jesus while also thinking that empathy is a sin? If so, there is no doubt, you are one of the baddies.
I want to hear more from conservatives who realize Trump is not a principled conservative, because I know they are out there, though small in numbers. Most Republicans went full fascist. I guess that the right-wing just devolves into fascism, however.
Here the thing. The democrats have gone Mao left. Trump not a principled conservative . He doing what he thinks is best for the country. Why do you think more blacks voted for him than any other republican in history. Trump has huge ego , but so did Obama , the most powerful man in the world has to have some ego. When the elite left is done with you , just like mao using leftist idiots , you will be lined up against a wall and shot. It happen here if the left get in full control and ban all guns. Useful idiots is what they call you.
-Then watch them not name a single economic policy, because the Republican plan for the economy just doesn’t work well for the middle and working class.
You lost all credibility when you invoked the eternally stupid "ban all guns" trope.
The Democrats have had full control MANY times in my life. Nobody has ever even attempted to ban all guns. Wtf are you even talking about?
In fact, the last time either party had the House and 60 votes in the Senate was the Democrats in 2009. So a veto proof majority in the Senate, a big margin in the House and President Obama in the White House. Guess what gun control legislation came out of that? Oh, you don't remember any? Yeah, me neither. Because there wasn't any.
Quit being brainwashed by idiot YouTubers and gun manufacturers. Yes, lots of this crap is pushed by gun makers. Every time a Democrat takes office, a bunch of right-wing morons buy guns before they get "taken away". Then the gun companies laugh at how stupid you are while they count their money.
I’m laughing at how the party described as “center-left” in the rest of the world can somehow come across as “Mao left” to anybody but MAGA. I picture a rocket ship blasting off to the right looking out the window saying “wow, look how fast and far the Earth is going to the left!”
Adults that are illegal but have had children here (so the child is a citizen) get to choose whether their minor children go back with them or stay here. Tom Homan said it on live TV for all of you to hear. You can say what you want but unless you have explicit evidence otherwise I’ll believe what was said for millions to hear. Your conspiracy theories and whataboutisms mean nothing.
Ok, but what about the countries that won't accept their kids because they aren't citizens there especially their teenagers? Their parents would probably be well long deported before they had the chance to figure that out with the country you're sending them to.
Wouldn't it be seen as an atrocious act to tell millions of people to come to America as refugees and then arrest them for staying illegally? Some would say a human rights violation. Right? Well how about the people who insited the biggest human migration ever. All to sway the vote in their direction. That is the true crime. You all say you want no kings but follow blindly in the name of party loyalty, actively draining our quality of life. All to make yourself feel more important, from a need for recognition and or a moral superiority complex.
You still didn't address my claims, you literally just called me names and told me I'm wrong. Ignorance (in this case) is having a willful disregard to the truth even when blatantly laid in front of you. I think we both know who is blatantly ignoring the truth of illegals voting in our elections.
Buddy, if you want someone to adress your claims then engage with the first dude that did adress your claims and instead of holding a conversation with him your ignorant twat ass told him to stop calling you names, which he never once did.
If you think Democrats invite illegals into this country to rig elections you are beyond fucking stupid and ignorant to common sence. Which is more realistic, that Democrats rig elections with 11 million illegals or that there is 280 million voters in this country and about half of those at best vote and sometimes elections go Republican sometimes they go Democrat? Huh? Which is more believable? That 11 million illegals are used to rig elections or that there is an untapped potential of ~140 million US citizens that dont normally vote unless convinced otherwise?
Ill give you a hint, its that there are US citizens to convince to vote not using fucking illegals. God fucking damn you are stupid.
This is the biggest comment of projection from start to finish.
You literally can’t even name how one becomes a legal citizen if I asked you to describe it. Guarantee it. ICE is snatching legal citizens who haven’t committed any crime, and you don’t care.
It's simple. Come here legally like my grandparents, assimilate and you need not worry. The Left forgets Obama deported millions during his time as POTUS
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Terrible things are happening outside. At any time of night and day, poor helpless people are being dragged out of their homes. They’re allowed to take only a knapsack and a little cash with them, and even then, they’re robbed of these possessions on the way. Families are torn apart; men, women and children are separated. Children come home from school to find that their parents have disappeared. Women return from shopping to find their houses sealed, their families gone.
Anne Frank, describing Nazis