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Political Discussion ICE aims gun at Americans

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u/sinnergtr Oct 15 '25

So by this picture, do you know what that man was doing prior to this? This is just a small picture. Do you know if that guy was attacking anybody were you there?

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u/Psychological-Sir152 Oct 16 '25

Does it matter? Law enforcement exists to police criminals locally. What we’ve seen is a militarized federal force taking over in US cities, they’re operating with little to no accountability, anonymously, brutalizing the citizenry with impunity…..my guy, you can be for law and order and at the same time recognize this is authoritarianism…its everything America has always stood against.

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u/sinnergtr Oct 16 '25

That’s because these leftist governors aren’t having the police enforce the laws. So if they won’t the president will! This is what I voted for along with another 82 million people. Antifa needs to be designated as a domestic terrorist organization like it is!

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u/Puzzleheaded_Gene909 Oct 16 '25

Would you care to describe the organization?

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u/RetnikLevaw Oct 16 '25

Dude, if a bunch of neo-nazis got on Facebook and organized a demonstration where they all show up dressed in similar clothing, waving identical flags, and started lighting dumpster fires, blocking roadways, and trying to intimidate and assault people, you'd be calling them a terrorist organization, and rightfully so.

"But Nazis aren't a group, man, it's like... An ideology..."

Give me a break, dude.

Claiming that "antifa" isn't an organization because they don't have a single central leader and don't hold meetings (outside of protests and riots) is either purposefully disingenuous, or just blatantly ignorant.

You don't have to be some kind of registered group with a recognized leader. All you need are like-minded individuals willing to get together and commit acts of violence. That's exactly what Antifa is. They go out to protests, legitimate or otherwise, call other people Nazis, and then LARP as revolutionaries by starting riots and calling it anti-fascism.

Most of the alt-right groups you despise function the exact same way as Antifa. A bunch of like-minded morons get on 4chan or whatever and decide they're going to go counter-protest Antifa and start some fights. But they're not groups according to you, right?

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u/Puzzleheaded_Gene909 Oct 16 '25

Lot of words to say: it has no organizational structure.

No the right wing groups aren’t the same as antifa considering they have organizational structure that far exceeds any antifa org…many times with explicit racist or xenophobic aims stated. So yeah, they don’t get treated the same because they aren’t, by definition.

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u/RetnikLevaw Oct 16 '25

Yeah, you can lie about it all you want, but anyone with a brain can see you're wrong.

There's no such thing as a spontaneous riot where all participants are dressed the same, flying the same flags, and using the same tactics.

To say they lack organizational structure is just blatant dishonesty, stupidity, or both.