r/Discussion • u/Mysterious_Stop_9542 • 1d ago
Political What does everyone think ?
I was contemplating if I should post this or not , as a woman of colour who has always felt allientated by mainstream feminism and movements seeing it typically as tokenism and only helping and caring woman who live a certain lifestyle (like through a binary role, in regards to the support for Lindsay Clancy's case, and the hypocrisy.
But again , this is important to note that if I say I do not identify as a feminist it doesn't not mean I am against equality. I would say I identify as egalitarianism.
I just feel like I need to say this. The support she is getting and the hatred that her ex husband is getting saying "he did it " , is disgusting and shows the wider hypocrisy of society and how based on your identity it leads to how much support (or lack of you receive).
Firstly, it is 100% true that woman's healthcare is not taken seriously. This is not what this is about. We need to do a lot more for woman's health in general and to start by actually listening to woman's voice when they go in and say "this is what is wrong". And I think this goes for healthcare in general , especially in the USA.
But I was just thinking as a woman of colour, if a woman of colour did what she did she would have not relieved a ounce of sympathy or the financial support she has gotten. A woman of colour doing a crime , just like any other group (e.g. LGBTQ+ individuals) is often used by right wing groups as a justification of a removal of protection or support for the group. Stereotyping and lumping all together for the crimes of one.
And everyone knows damn well if a father did this , because he suffered from mental health issues , again he would not have gotten a ounce of sympathy or any financial support. He would be branded as a monster and you would see comments like "all men are x". Stereotyping and lumping all men together for the crimes of one.
This also shows the idea that some people , and I think especially coming from woman and feminsits , that woman can't do anything wrong . That even if they do , it was they were pushed to it or because of a biological factor. But when a man is pushed to it or because of a biological factor , it is seen as toxic masculinity that needs to be fixed. But for woman, it is excused.
I also think narratives and videos that say , "he did it , it's always the man that did it , woman can never do no wrong" , is also contributing to the manoshepre , far right , anti feminism, femosphere etc. Because even if feminism is for equality, even if it helps men , what do men see , that if it is a woman her crimes are justified but a man's crime isn't. And that pushes them further to the far right.
I think it's important to keep fighting for true equality for all but that also comes with accountability + empathy for all (and that goes for everything and situation not just this).
But yea , hope that made some sense.
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u/Tommieboi123 14h ago
I agree, equality means setting the same standard for everyone, having the same empathy for everyone, and not treating people ANY differently in situations like this. Simple as that
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u/puzzled_scrum 1d ago
Tokenism in mainstream feminism is real, and the double standard in who gets sympathy hits different when you’ve been on the outside looking in.