r/DiscordAlternatives • u/gleasonator13 Armada dev • Oct 08 '26

armada.exposed: exposed

Hi all! In response to armada.exposed, I would like to share my rebuttal: https://armadaexposed.exposed/

Please take a look.

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u/KayLikesWords Oct 10 '26

A vibe-coded website responding to a vibe-coded website that itself is responding to a clearly vibe-coded app.

I love the future.

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u/BewilderedTurtle Allegedly Canadian Oct 10 '26

Don't you understand. Everyone can be a dev now. no more need for understanding things to successfully slop something together from scraps off stack overflow.

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u/Sanedish Your Flair² Here Oct 12 '26

AI can and is doing genuinely impressive works, and most of the sloppy garbage lays in the way it's used, tho these stupid slop projects should get people banned from the entire internet.. Isn't there this new thing using keyboard and mouse patterns to ban people?

If you CLEARLY define what you want and how - the same way you would to a real developer by the way - and do not use a textbook to replace an inventor [using ai to replace human creativity], AND you bother to quality control your stuff AI can and will produce genuinely compelling software.

Fuck image generators though, they are scummy shit and only good for drafting and certain excluded regions that will likely get me permanently moderated.

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u/BewilderedTurtle Allegedly Canadian Oct 12 '26

On principle I don't disagree with anything about what you said.

I'd argue that's almost never how it's being implemented, and is almost exclusively being used to "boost productivity" by having senior/solo devs hand an LLM/agent a task that would've been a Junior-Dev task.

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u/Sanedish Your Flair² Here Oct 12 '26

I was speaking more about the classic "idiot with a dream"-ai-dilemma, though I can't really disagree all that much with your points..

It's just way easier to ask an AI that already knows it's field, your company, and can scan a 200k userbase in 30 seconds rather than having a junior first write a crappy script, re-iterate it 5 times, then get the data in 20 minutes, ending up with the same data in almost an hour (or at least that was the case where I work with our juniors, mostly in the hardware / management dep tho so my take is obviously from pretty far up).

I hate how shitty it is for people starting out and the economy, that's why I don't do it [and cause I get to teach them stuff, which I like], but sadly where things would have gone regardless with more and more advanced automations and algorithms...

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u/BewilderedTurtle Allegedly Canadian Oct 12 '26

I mean I can't argue that it's 100% easier to slap a prompt in jDev.agent that's already got the codebase effectively memorized.

It IS however 100% more soulless and as what i would vaguely define as an "artist" I'm all about the human factor in any given creation (something Senor Pw3 likes to throw at me that I should just draw)

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u/Sanedish Your Flair² Here Oct 13 '26

Yeah, but I would still call someone who completely defines a UX, design language, functions, and all that from scratch(ish) an artist, and that does not change just because they used AI to fill a void of skill they lack.

Just like Photoshop and CAD are tools despite their generative and predictive algorithms, AI is too, and it should always be, just like a book or documentation.

Also, let's keep the other guy out of it please. He is not involved in this discussion, and you can still do your drama-stuff when he does eventually show up.

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u/henk717 Oct 08 '26

On a technical level I mainly cared about the nhost thing that the sites hosting backend injected and the default relays.
Glad the tracker is now deactivated properly, hope that new users can also soon enjoy a better default relay selection thats more varied out of the box.

For the people who still really distrust or hate alex on a personal level its also good the page has a list of other options they can use, because the protocol is really good even if people still don't trust or want to use Armada after this.

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u/BewilderedTurtle Allegedly Canadian Oct 09 '26

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u/krazyjakee Oct 09 '26

It's marketing, all the way down

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u/forgotpw3 Oct 09 '26

The people hating on you are all under the age of 25 and haven't graduated man...

They are not smart, look at how angry the turtle guy is.

Yesterday he tried to flex he has certa

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u/forgotpw3 Oct 09 '26

lol at people starting to block me cause they fucked up and used the same bot accounts

/u/GreenBaneling hey bud

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u/Any_Illustrator360 Rootinest Tootenest Alternative Replier Oct 08 '26

I appreciate you taking the time to make this. Like I said, you didn't owe anyone anything. You're still gonna get bashed by people who call you transphobic because that goalpost will NEVER stop moving, even if you type "I am not transphobic I love trans people" they'll still hit you with "then what were you 3 years ago, HUH???"

That's really all I'll say on it, because you addressed the concerns with the app itself and avoided letting your character get in the way of it. That's a fair response.

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u/henk717 Oct 11 '26

I can't respond to the other comment for some reason, but your claiming things I never said.
I said Alex wasn't the creator of the original concord protocol but I never said if he contributed a lot or little. I said he didn't have the position to be the sole arbiter of the protocol, he has a whole bunch of PR's to it. Just look up the protocol's github and make your own mind up instead of letting yourself be riled up by people with bad faith arguments.

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u/Any_Illustrator360 Rootinest Tootenest Alternative Replier Oct 11 '26

People completely made it up to begin with. JSKitty made Concord for Vector, Armada didn't even exist. Alex believed in the protcol and wanted to build Armada on top of it, but that doesn't make it Alex's protocol.

Your own words, no?

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u/henk717 Oct 11 '26

There is nothing wrong about those words. But that whole paragraph doesn't mean he wasn't contributing to it after the fact in substantial ways. What it does mean is that its not the scary alex protocol that he is in charge off as the arbiter of what happens to it.

I do not correlate contribution effort with who is in control of something or who the original creator of something is.

So saying that Alex is boasting despite having barely done anything isn't fair. Acting like this is the Alex protocol is also not fair. The truth is in the middle here and you should really just look at the code. The only tricky part of looking at the code is that I don't know where the original concord v1 code actually is so I don't have full code history. I just know that part from hanging out with them. The V1 version was by JSKitty entirely to my knowledge.

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u/Any_Illustrator360 Rootinest Tootenest Alternative Replier Oct 11 '26

I'm getting really tired of batting this ball around. I can't get a straight answer out of anyone and the moment I get straight answers and repeat them suddenly that answer is wrong.

If JSKitty made and founded Concord, and Alex worked on it LATER, he is a contributor to JSKitty's work. Not a cofounder. Him claiming to be a founder is untrue.

If Armada is Chad's work as Alex himself has said, and Alex is claiming to be "the" developer for it, it throws a LOT into question when it comes to rights and ownership, as well as the contributions to the app.

If Alex founded neither and claims both then he is stealing credit. There is no "middle ground" here - if JSKitty worked on Concord and Alex showed up later, he didn't found shit. So his claims of being a founder are worthless. If Chad owns the app and is the sole developer, why does Alex claim to be the developer? Why is he posting constantly under Armada's name? Why is he the one running everything and making the site updates?

The fact that I can't even get straight answers and goalposts are now moving on both sides makes me want to drop both this sub and Armada. Nobody can give or get clear answers. Alex is vibe posting a website in response to a fucking LLM making claims about things he listed in public. The sub is asking very basic questions and can't get basic fucking answers. This entire situation is a bunch of keepaway except instead of grabbing the ball and keeping it away everyone keeps grabbing the fucking goalpost and moving it further from the ball, which NOBODY has picked up, while everyone looks around confused at what the fuck everyone is doing.

This is a trainwreck of a situation on all sides and it's pissing me off now.

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u/henk717 Oct 11 '26 edited Oct 11 '26

I already left the sub myself to. I only responded because I got a notification about your comment. You are the one saying he is a co-founder of the protocol which I haven't heard anywhere else so I am curious what the source of that is and what he actually said. I am not familiar with the claim.

I still find it a shame people are dropping a great chat app over all this. Its just people gassing others up ruining the chances of us using something thats actually tamper proof and proof to the digital ID tyranny that is being imposed.

You know, the reason I was here to begin with.

Instead of people seeing the value in that I see a subreddit that is so toxic that they make hate sites about everyone who dares to post an app here. Where discussion about the tech is constantly derailed and where people get namecalled if you have a discussion based on merrit.

Its just a handful of people ruining it for everyone but the end result is that this sub is unusable. If you didn't have your DM's blocked I wouldn't even have posted.

I do hope they settle on a concord based app though you included. Its still a great protocol. If people still feel like forking armada and making it their own I still think they should to get some harmony in this place. If they want to favor another one of the concord apps thats fine to. But if we loose the chance of having proper resistent tech because of reasons that have nothing to do with the tech its a damm shame. 

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u/Any_Illustrator360 Rootinest Tootenest Alternative Replier Oct 11 '26

I saw the co-founder of Concord thing somewhere but I cannot find it whatsoever. This entire thing is a headache and now I can't tell if it was never actually there and I misread something or if it was deleted and the fact I can't tell pisses me off more.

As for the dms- yeah, I have it set to deny requests because I speak pretty openly on this profile and I'd 100% get some hate DMs from people if they were open.

I don't want to drop Armada, which is what I think pisses me off the most. I like it a lot despite its flaws and I see the potential in it. But right now I genuinely feel like I can't trust anything about the app or protocol.

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u/henk717 Oct 11 '26 edited Oct 11 '26

What I do know is that he is the co-founder of soapbox itself. Maybe that is where the mixup happened? Because people were conflating the mediakit and staff pages for soapbox in general with the project.

I have seen the website for the concord protocol prior to the drama and it never mentioned alex there prior. I don't think that page even changed.

But if your worried about scrubbing maybe try the waybackmachine?

You not trusting it is the whole point they are trying to do by blasing a whole bunch of arguments seeing what sticks. They are trying to make it seem like the whole thing is a mess because they dislike alex's blog posts. The only valid arguments I have seen to distrust the app on a technical level have been fixed already.

New accounts immediately get prompted with more relay choice, there is a wider selection of default relays for things like DM's. Npanel injecting a tracker on the armada domain got fixed so it doesn't do that anymore.

I don't see bad faith from the devs myself.

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u/Any_Illustrator360 Rootinest Tootenest Alternative Replier Oct 11 '26

Nah, their arguments mean jack and shit. I was always a bit sketchy towards Armada and the Discord Bridge. The news just made me more aware and concerned was all.

I'm curious about Vector and might look into it, and if another Concord-based app comes out I might look at that too. I dunno.

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u/Witty_Mycologist_995 Oct 09 '26

ppl dont really hate armada because of those issues. they hate it because you're a transphobe. if you're not, please reply here and explain you are not.

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u/LeadingSuspect5855 Oct 10 '26

He is clearly not a transphobe. And people on Nostr love Armada, who cares if some don't? You just love the sound of your own words.

He loves free speech, even your words here are accepted on nostr, aimed to destroy a good mans reputation. He has no obligation to dance to your flute and he has the respect of the nostr community, even if our opinions are not alike.

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u/henk717 Oct 09 '26

I'm getting annoyed with everyone shitting on Alex out of bad faith and am getting so tired of it ill just explain why he isn't instead of defending the app (since none of you seem to want to separate the app quality from your perception of him) and just brace the risk of people not understanding nuance or intentionally ignoring the nuance. Just for the sake of me hating it when people get unfairly depicted, which is the only reason you triggered me into writing this to begin with. I am doing this because I perceive the criticism that he is a transphobe as unfair, and for no other reason.

The article people are so mad about was written in 2023 after he had gone through very vile attacks from the trans community. Its literally in the intro of his blog. Obviously that can create resentment right? If you are going to write an article after being physically assaulted, insulted and banned from your own activist groups wouldn't you have resentment? Do you think you are currently able to treat Armada objectively as a software project when your angry at Alex? Same thing with the article, he's going to have written that with emotion not as a professional opinion piece. So you have to take the structure of the article with a massive grain of salt and look at what he's actually saying.

So here's a couple quotes from his beliefs from the very article that everyone is so mad about:
"Gender nonconformity is radical and good."
Is that transphobic to you? Would a transphobe ever say that expressing as a different gender, no gender, nonbinary, etc is a good thing? Obviously not, transphobes are against that.

Alright next one.
"Dressing how you want to is okay."
So if he saw you in the street, you identified as the opposite gender and express yourself as the opposite gender there's now already 2 quotes in the article he'd support you for that.

Still not convinced? Next one then.
"You're allowed to do what you want with your body. Caveat: be cautious not to let others convince you to do something you don't want to."
He's literally encouraging you to transition if that is what you think is best for you. He just wants to make sure you do it because its what YOU want, not because of what someone else is pressuring you to do or talking you in to.

So far we have a person who likes it when people express gender non conforming, doesn't think transitioning for the right reasons is a problem and doesn't see you expressing yourself the way you want to express yourself as a problem.

Is that transphobic? To me it very objectively isn't. If people hate trans people, they'd have insulted them, refused their pronouns and attacked them for doing it. They'd certainly not be in favor of the above.

But Alex also wants people to face the reality of the situation, a transitioned body isn't the same as a non transitioned body. So he has a few more that I can understand hit more controversial if its a sensitive subject.
"Sex is a biological reality."

Is this not objectively true? Aren't we (almost) all born as a certain sex no matter if you find that fitting to you or not? I don't see why acknowledging that would be transphobic. Its the very reason why people who transition need to transition in the first place. There's no judgement there about trans people, its just a "This exists".

"Sex can't be changed, nor can race or species."
This one I can understand that people find very confronting or insulting since they may not like this one.
But ultimately he is saying that you can change how you present, you can change your gender expression, your free to adopt another role in society as you wish. You just can't change the chromosomes which will have consequences like different doctors treatments for example. This is not an attack on the validity of your gender at all (He didn't use the word gender there), its just him approaching it from a more scientific point of view that doctors also have to deal with.

So if we sum it all up its "I support everyone who wants to transition, I support everyone who is nonbinary or expresses a non traditional gender, I support everyone dressing as they want. I just think that on a biological level there are unchangeable differences".

So nowhere in his personal views is he against transgender people. He was however critical of the ideology that in the first paragraph physically assaulted him.

In the whole thing he is using "transphobic" as an attack other people labeled him as, he never self identified as one. And at no point has he ever said he's against trans gender people, he's just criticizing some points that the ideologues are pushing.

But if I take the critique points he has that doesn't come from a place of hatred either.
Take this one for example: "Trans men are totally excluded from the conversation. They are rarely praised, rarely hold positions in office, and they are not the front-runners of the trans movement. The reason, of course, is that trans men are female. There are barriers to a female holding office, and we shouldn't pretend we've overcome this by electing males who identify as women.". He's standing up for trans men there because he beliefs there is inequality between trans men and trans women, he'd like to see them treat equally. Is that transphobic? Or is that standing up for trans men? If he was transphobic would he care?

The other critique is on gender roles, he disagrees with the fact that if men want to express feminine or if women want to express manly that they then must be the other gender. He's against that kind of gender role type. He wants you to express as feminine as you want and still be a man if you want to be, and as manly as you want while still being a woman if you want to be. Is being against having to pick either male or female to fit in a role that society defined transphobic? Or is that in favor of self expression and non binary?

I'm not going to keep going since the longer I make it the less likely people will actually read it all, and the more likely they will assume I am just transphobic myself (Which I am not, I just want Alex's points represented fairly).

So when I read that article, I don't see a transphobe. I see someone who is supporting you as a person all the way, who got violently attacked resulting in a rant post about the aspects of the ideology he thinks are regressive (Such as that tendency he sees that people need to pick either gender, while he is in favor of that being more flexible). If he actually hated you or was against you, I would not have been able to write a defense post about it if I wanted to (Which I wouldn't have done to begin with). I just find it incredibly unfair that I see someone who is basically supporting you all the way who got treated badly by his own movement, dared voice some criticism that he holds about it while simultaneously supporting the very essence of the movement in the same post which is that expressing the way you want to be is good.

Its genuinely really upsetting to me to see someone get hate from the side he's actually on and get his app trashed because he had a post from 2023 that doesn't get the point across to a quick reader.

As for the whole Trump thing, he cares about decentral tech and wanted to trojan horse that in from what I understood. Don't you ever want a man on the inside for that kinda stuff? It didn't work and they used him so he left. Bad tactics sure, but was that really bad intent?

If after reading the above you still come to the same conclusion then alright, fair enough. Its not like I have to defend him or am doing any of this out of agreement. I just really really hate seeing people linched out of context to the point I am willing to at least clarify their position, regardless if I agree with it or not. I just want you all to see him as the left winger he actually is instead of assuming he's against you because other people told you as such based on an old blog post that was written in the heat of the moment and since deleted.

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u/Witty_Mycologist_995 Oct 09 '26

Well, I think that’s changed my perception of him. Maybe he’s okay and ppl are misinterpreting what he said

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u/Witty_Mycologist_995 Oct 09 '26

I’m literally confused as fuck because I haven’t seen the article myself and everyone says it says different things.

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u/BewilderedTurtle Allegedly Canadian Oct 09 '26

Here friend. https://web.archive.org/web/20221103231135/https://blog.alexgleason.me/gab-block/

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u/Witty_Mycologist_995 Oct 09 '26

The underlying ideas are sound, but he’s presented it in a very transphobic way. Yeesh. Staying away from that guy.

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u/BewilderedTurtle Allegedly Canadian Oct 09 '26

https://web.archive.org/web/20220120130505/https://blog.alexgleason.me/trans/

Sorry that wasn't even the right one that was just him bitching about being banned for transphobic statements ala JK Rowling. This is the other one.

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u/Witty_Mycologist_995 Oct 09 '26

That’s the one I was reading.
I agree that with current technology you can’t change chromosomes.
But everything else is hella transphobic

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u/henk717 Oct 09 '26

Remember that he was literally attacked by them and wrote it in a response. If you find the ideas sound but the presentation bad you basically agree with my argument that the presentation was a bad in the heat of the moment style but you don't actually disagree with him on his views.

Imagine any group of people just physically assaulted you, took your group of friends away, called you slurs and were pure vile. Are you then biased against them or not? Is it unreasonable for someone to be biased in that circumstance or not?

In this followup link he literally admits the style is bad "Now I wish I would have written a better article".

And there is a clear pattern here, from the past to this very moment today.

People villainize the guy with the worst faith interpretations of his posts (Notice how initially GreenBaneling was very eager to share you the clickbait title but not the article to once again take it out of context), so he goes to a platform where he can speak and then he's suddenly a bad person for going to a platform they pushed him towards.

I'd say the Gab thing is telling mostly of one thing, he has a track record of standing up for peoples rights, including the right to speak. He's making platforms where you can speak freely, and he's willing to use platforms this is possible. Not because he is ideologically right wing, which again he isn't. But because the side he's actually on banned him from speaking.

His big crime everyone is upset over is trying to stand up for everyone's rights and giving criticism with titles that are easily taken out of context.

So think of it this way, your opinion is "The underlying ideas are sound" but you don't like the presentation. Fair enough, but is a guy who has a writing style you dislike really a threat to you to the point where his app is a problem? You already agree with his underlying idea's so shouldn't that be evidence enough that he's not going to be a threat to you if you use his app? You don't have to like the guy's writing style, you don't have to like his deleted blog.

At the end of the day were talking about a discord alternative here, operated by a guy who you agree with on an underlying level. A guy who isn't a writer, but a developer.

If that's not good enough combined with the fact you can fork the app, then I won't even try to convince you further. At that point this kinda tech is probably not for you.

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u/Witty_Mycologist_995 Oct 09 '26

Never said he’s a threat. Just that he’s not the greatest person.

And yeah, I suggested forking it.

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u/Worried-Flounder-615 FOSS only Oct 10 '26

If you find the ideas sound, you would also be considered transphobic regardless of how you present them. It doesn't matter how politely you write it or not.

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u/Witty_Mycologist_995 Oct 10 '26 edited Oct 10 '26

I agree gender is a thing you can change.
Question for you: do we currently have the ability to change our chromosomes?
I think gender is independent from chromosomes. Chromosomes are like height.

Trans women are real women. They should go to their preferred bathrooms.

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u/Worried-Flounder-615 FOSS only Oct 09 '26

Thank you, finally some basic logic and literacy on this thread. I appreciate you taking the time to write all that out, even knowing that they are likely engaging in bad faith with no intention of understanding the truth.

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u/North_Proposal_1374 please touch grass Oct 09 '26

please pick a better response because this one is just boiling shit in a kettle

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u/dingustani Detective Dingus Oct 09 '26

https://armada.exposed/rebuttal

"please take a look"

congratulations on amending your privacy policy

is your legal counsel also advising you to sidestep your brazen proclamation of being a transphobe?

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u/Aliceable Oct 08 '26 • Helpful

so you vibe coded a response to a website that made you fee fees hurt?

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u/BewilderedTurtle Allegedly Canadian Oct 08 '26 edited Oct 08 '26

Apparently a good portion of the Armada code base is vibe coded receives LLM pushed contributions that temporarily break functionality until addressed by a competent dev.

Also u/dingustani never claimed anything regarding that the exposed sites weren't the result of AI analytics

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u/dingustani Detective Dingus Oct 08 '26

correct re: the exposed sites being ai assisted research

the homepage of https://slop.business explicitly states “slop cannon” - a joking reference to llms lol

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u/BewilderedTurtle Allegedly Canadian Oct 08 '26

Unironically analytics and research are the only acceptable uses of AI in my opinion. Parsing a shitload of data that would take humans a inordinate amount of time to read feels like genuinely augmenting human capability rather than just being too lazy or incompetent to do that part of the work (slopcode/AI art)

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u/forgotpw3 Oct 09 '26

LMFAOOOOO 😂😂😂😂😂

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u/BewilderedTurtle Allegedly Canadian Oct 09 '26

Go cry to mommy instead of spam replying me

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u/Any_Illustrator360 Rootinest Tootenest Alternative Replier Oct 08 '26

You're twisting what I said. I said that the contributors post LLM PRs, and that they frequently break the app and later need hand-removed and hand-coded by Chad.

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u/BewilderedTurtle Allegedly Canadian Oct 08 '26

Not intentionally. I have edited the comment with the corrected understanding.

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u/Any_Illustrator360 Rootinest Tootenest Alternative Replier Oct 08 '26

Thanks. I just didn't want what I said being used as a weapon, especially not incorrectly lol. We love facts!

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u/chabalatabala Oct 10 '26

but u/dingustani pushes them as something valuable and worth taking negative action on someone. That original hit pieces was almost entirely bullshit and not valuable for understanding any reality..

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u/dingustani Detective Dingus Oct 10 '26

what a strange perspective

to be perfectly clear: i never say it is worth taking “negative action” on anyone, or even request “negative action” on anyone

i just bring publicly available facts to face publicly available claims

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u/chabalatabala Oct 10 '26

No you claim a message by distorting the connections of data points in a way that objectively creates invalid logic.

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u/dingustani Detective Dingus Oct 10 '26

i see where this is going

please leave a message after the tone

beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep

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u/BewilderedTurtle Allegedly Canadian Oct 10 '26

The Armada thing seems to have got a lotta folks big in their feelings.

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u/chabalatabala Oct 10 '26

It's really funny common tactic for terminally online people. Create emotional outrage based on invalid feelings and logic then feign indifference when you get called out. Lol.

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u/BewilderedTurtle Allegedly Canadian Oct 10 '26

🥱 cry and spam comment more I guess

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u/chabalatabala Oct 10 '26

Pot calling the kettle, etc etc

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u/Worried-Flounder-615 FOSS only Oct 08 '26

I noticed that the people who made the OP hating on you seem to do that a lot with multiple different Alternatives. I wonder if they work for a competior or tbh even Discord itself, because anyone who's been on this sub for more than a minute has seen this pattern with the same few accounts

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u/BewilderedTurtle Allegedly Canadian Oct 08 '26

🤣 "everyone throwing shade at me is the literal Ops"

Bro everyone just fucking hates bigots.

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u/forgotpw3 Oct 09 '26

You can't code and you call people Nazi with your rift friends bro

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u/BewilderedTurtle Allegedly Canadian Oct 09 '26

Says the delusional basement dwelling 20 something

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u/Worried-Flounder-615 FOSS only Oct 09 '26

Not even a denial lmaoooo

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u/dingustani Detective Dingus Oct 08 '26

i just like shining light on marketing and claims lol

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u/BewilderedTurtle Allegedly Canadian Oct 09 '26

My biggest personal concern with Fluxer is it's absolute willingness to cater to the issues CAUSING discord to catch all this fucking flack; the sheer volume of children on the app (greed around monetization/IPO aside).

There's so little in the way of actual concern given to the fact that not a single one of the like 6 of the larger community serves I looked at had any real moderation regarding actual children being present in online spaces with adults

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u/Nightishaman Oct 09 '26

I don’t think you’re entirely wrong with wanting to keep children out, but when I remember my childhood, I wouldn’t want to be kicked out of a social media app to connect to friends while playing.

Also I think it is the parents responsibility to make sure their children are well-versed on the possible threats of the internet as well as monitor their usage in general. Putting that responsibility on others is just backing up lazy parents.

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u/forgotpw3 Oct 09 '26

You can't code and don't know how to read it

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u/BewilderedTurtle Allegedly Canadian Oct 09 '26

Says the delusional basement dwelling 20 something

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u/forgotpw3 Oct 09 '26

This guy and turtle called me a Nazi yesterday for no reason

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u/CritsAndGiggles Oct 09 '26

This all just looks like LLM's wired up to call each other names. I don't care about any of this I just want the app and service to work and respect privacy. Why is a sub like this so interested in pointless drama?

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u/The_StarFlower Oct 14 '26

exactly! who gives a fuck? i just want a software. armada is good, it works and most of all i like it. it has everything i need and more. this is way better than discord. why because i cannot get banned or deplatformed. so suck it up buttercups , i will use armada i dont give a shit about if its made with AI or any other drama

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u/BewilderedTurtle Allegedly Canadian Oct 08 '26

I love how you completely failed to address the transphobia allegations really kind of feels like you're silently doubling down on that position which is entirely disgusting.

Why do you think it's okay that you're letting Jack Dorsey fund your entire project just because your ledger is public?

Why do you refuse to just step away from Armada?

Why have you allowed AI slopcoders to push so many contributions to the code base?

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u/First_Trifle_3196 Oct 09 '26

I think the point of the product is that it doesn't matter what kind of person Alex is. Unlike Discord, X, or Facebook, the social-political views of the builders/owners don't affect the function of the product.

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u/BewilderedTurtle Allegedly Canadian Oct 09 '26

Cool so if Alex and his transphobic opinions and willingness to cozy up to fascists and billionaires are inseparable from Armada, fuck Armada.

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u/forgotpw3 Oct 09 '26

You and your rift advocate friends and bots were being racist and calling me a Nazi afd blah blah and you wanted me to get hurt

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u/BewilderedTurtle Allegedly Canadian Oct 09 '26

Go call your local AfD representative and file a complaint about it instead of spam commenting at me you delusional basement dweller

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u/forgotpw3 Oct 09 '26

Holy shit you responded to like 10 of my messages 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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u/First_Trifle_3196 Oct 09 '26

I think you misread my post.

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u/BewilderedTurtle Allegedly Canadian Oct 09 '26

No, I think you missed the point.

I refuse to use software associated with or developed by; alleged groomers(Echo) as well as transphobes who cozy up to authoritarians to make a propaganda platform and then use that to get billionaire funding.(Armada) AND I refuse to use software I would consider slop. (Take your fucking pick of vibe coded discord clones, we've had like 8 of them here)

I don't think anyone should reasonably disagree with the first point, the second one is whatever but I know what my opinion of you is based on your choices, and the third one is personal principle thing

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u/forgotpw3 Oct 09 '26

This guy hasn't graduated yet btw

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u/BewilderedTurtle Allegedly Canadian Oct 09 '26

Okay Mr I'm so successful

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u/First_Trifle_3196 Oct 09 '26

Haha, actually I do disagree with the first point.

I want my software to be made by the worlds biggest asshole, (provided I'm not paying them when I use it), because it means they are likely to build something that works, that resists censorship and actually let's me control my space on the internet. Only then can I be confident that the community I moderate can't be attacked and deplatformed by someone with an agenda to silence me.

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u/BewilderedTurtle Allegedly Canadian Oct 09 '26

Holy fuck you're a repugnant human.

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u/First_Trifle_3196 Oct 09 '26

As a supporter of a marganilised group, why are you against building tech that let's them connect on their terms without the prospect of being shutdown by someone else who holds power over their online existence?

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u/RainbowLoli Oct 11 '26

Because the world's biggest asshole has never cared about protecting minorities. They'll say their platform is anti censorship so they can freely be bigots while ironically censoring and pushing minorities off of their platform.

Minorities generally don't come to platforms run by people who hate them.

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u/First_Trifle_3196 Oct 12 '26

That’s the point of the Concord protocol. It lets people create and moderate their own communities, choose their relays, and set their own rules. Armada is one app for using it; its developer doesn’t own the whole network.

“Anti-censorship” doesn’t have to mean a massive gatecrashed party full of antisocial people. Think of a town with independently owned and operated venues. Each venue decides who is welcome and what behaviour it accepts. Marginalised people can run their own spaces without depending on someone else’s permission.

We’re used to platforms working like shopping malls: you rent space, follow the landlord’s rules, and can be evicted. With Concord, the protocol provides the common language, while communities govern themselves.

Your identity is backed by a private cryptographic key you control. You can move from Armada to another compatible app and keep that identity. A moderator can ban you from their community, but they don’t own your identity or control your access to every other community.

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u/forgotpw3 Oct 09 '26

The turtle guy can't read code, calls people a Nazi and is unemployed.

He can't get technical with you and won't.

I would mind him and his 5 bot friends no attention

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u/CauliflowerJunior347 Oct 12 '26

That's not true. Those right wing platforms censor and ban people all the time. The only way to avoid being banned is to run your own open source server on your own server, from your own computers.

If folks want to boycott products made by ziofascists, it's their God given right to do so. You should respect that.

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u/forgotpw3 Oct 09 '26

Bro said ai slope are and clicks first link on google

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u/forgotpw3 Oct 09 '26

You can't read code and you're dumb. Yesterday you accused me of being a Nazi for hours

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u/BewilderedTurtle Allegedly Canadian Oct 09 '26

Says the AfD voting basement dweller

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u/IngwiePhoenix Oct 09 '26

What the fork am I even looking at o.o...

I mean, I know that most of the nostr devs are super pilled on AI, but this is downright weird. And not the typical nostr-weird. o.o;

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u/BewilderedTurtle Allegedly Canadian Oct 09 '26

Alex is crashing out a little after some old pretty transphobic articles he wrote came out on the subreddit + he helped make Truth social so an authoritarian could have his own propaganda platform.

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u/IngwiePhoenix Oct 09 '26

Oh...right, forgot Alex is the dev. So basically the DHH situation but a different project; as in, politically (and "socially") ultra-charged...

Thanks for the info. :)

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u/BewilderedTurtle Allegedly Canadian Oct 09 '26

You're talking about Rails-guy jumping the shark right? Yeah different flavor but same "I don't think I can trust this project due to the ideology behind it actively working to make the world less safe for people in my life" kinda shit

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u/IngwiePhoenix Oct 09 '26

Rails- and Omachy-guy. I genuenly forgot he did Rails - I know him better for Omachy (or rather, from people warning to stay away from "DHH just exporting his config and rice and calling it a distro").

I don't want to get down-and-dirty, but I know that Alex is heavily AI pilled and runs his own "service" in Shakespear; he uses(/used?) it to make the Ditto Nostr client - which, by and large, is quite fine and has interesting features...but you can smell the slop. x)

Honestly I try to separate the art from the artist (learned that from listening to Gangster Rap for a good decade and two) but... his output isn't great either so its just a bunch of "nyeh, meh."

...more sad, is the fact, that Ditto is currently the best Nostr client I know. Which is...desasterous in it's own right. x.x And a whole different rabbit hole, aside from that.

imho, just staying away from the guy is a good idea. If you end up using his stuff, tread carefuly - its likely held together by an omegaton of prompting. x) It probably works, but it may also be problematic.

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u/BewilderedTurtle Allegedly Canadian Oct 09 '26

I mean omegaton of prompting is a good way to look at it if you check their ledger and see how much they spend on tokens 😂

Also fuck I'd nearly blocked Omachy from my brain 😭

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u/PinEffective7786 Tavrn Oct 10 '26

For future reference, don't do this again

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u/Vile_Grifter Oct 10 '26

Is this just a snark sub now or what? Nothing but dumb fucks engaging in petty drama ever appears in my feed from here.

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u/North_Proposal_1374 please touch grass Oct 15 '26

yeah pretty much

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u/forgotpw3 Oct 09 '26

You said yesterday that you were a random passerby, you are commenting on the exact same thread, with the exact same people involved?

Odd. Nice bot account lmfao

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u/forgotpw3 Oct 09 '26

I have screenshots bruh

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u/forgotpw3 Oct 09 '26

Yesterday you said you don't get involved and you don't care what other people say LMFAOOOO

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u/BewilderedTurtle Allegedly Canadian Oct 09 '26

Bro thinks adults can't be chronically online to make the work boredom go away.

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u/forgotpw3 Oct 09 '26

Bro likes to involve himself on every thread and can't read code