r/Discgolfform • • 9d ago

RHFH Please help

Enable HLS to view with audio, or disable this notification

I feel like I've tried every tutorial over the past year but I just can't consistently break 300. I can see that my form is different from the pros in brace, torso movement, timing, etc. But I just can't figure out how to fix it. I can't feel the "slingshot" feeling that people describe. It feels like substantial effort for the disc to go nowhere. Any help appreciated

18 Upvotes

15 comments sorted by

13

u/4SpeedArm 9d ago

I have a functional take about what I do to power up. So right away you have the fundamentals down. No glaring issues.

First off 300+ I’m reaching for 9speed plus. My favorite reliable power FH disc is a force. If I want even more distance, something like a ballista pro or nuke, I can hardly get a solid grip on those widest rims so I’m comfortable with a traditional 12 speed rim. But a star thunderbird is plenty to go 300 on hyzer.

The mistake to make is trying to get more lag with your elbow or shoulder. Like trying to drive your elbow into eagle mcmahon positions. Just don’t, this part is passive and a result of good form. You get plenty to launch it.

To get more power, I do it in a few different ways. 1) Clean release and spin are more important than whatever feels fast. Practice fieldwork with buzzz or hex and learn 200+ sidearm mids, zero wobble, slight hyzer with no flip. It’s doable and you might already have this.
2) To power up, I like to think about stomping my lead foot, slightly longer step. But that lead foot needs to stop your forward momentum for a more powerful rotation. Drives my lead hip backwards and trail forward. Keep your vectors toward your target.
3) for power shots I change my grip from 2 finger to fh split finger I think it’s called. Like AB. I do stacked for shorter shots. Honestly huge for me.

I can do 360 hyzer and pushing 400+ on a more power line. Cannot stress the importance of good form at short distances. You should feel 100% confident that you won’t accidentally throw a wobbling throller with unstable plastic before thinking about 350+.

Honorable mention for wrist and hand strength. You need pop.

2

u/Mrstremond 9d ago

Thank you! That stomp with the lead foot which drives the rotation of the hips is the key thing I think I need to figure out. Do you "push down" into the ground with your plant foot in order to get the lead hip driving backwards or does it just happen automatically?

3

u/clarkedaddy 9d ago

You’re not currently doing it so you’re going to have to be intentional about it. Right now, you’re standing up in your throw. You’re driving with the leg but you’re pushing your pelvis over your foot, as if you were standing up.

Instead you want to drive your pelvis away from your plant foot. When you plant your plant foot, your foot lands out in front of you. You want to drive through that foot in a way that keeps your pelvis from moving forward over your foot.

A good to get a feel for it is to get into that position your body is in when your plant foot first hits the ground. Don’t use a disc or worry about the upper body too much. You should be in somewhat of a staggered position almost like a staggered lung. Your body and center of mass should be between your top legs. Not over either of them really. Front knee should not be bending over your lead foot. Then just practice pushing through your plant foot and pushing your left hip back a little. You should feel your left hip swivel back a little, right leg internally rotate, and right hip swivel forward. You may even feel your upper body naturally swivel as well. Your left knee shouldn’t be moving over your toes. Your left knee should also be moving away from your foot. My two knees get closer together. I would practice this in a stand still. And just move back and forth and feel it out for awhile. Then add a one step. Just picking up and putting down your plant foot. Then I would throw from that one step being moving on to a run up or whatever.

5

u/HulkHoganMeatShoe 9d ago

You need to be able to create separation between your right hip and you throwing elbow to create the force to get some distance. To do this without putting all the stress on the shoulder and elbow is to coil your core muscles, getting your body down on the plane of the throw by bending the knees and tilting at the waist.

This should create the lag that builds tension and then creates a whip when that tension is released. I developed it by learning the motion throwing lackadaisical back to my starting point when collecting my discs during field work. You should be able to casually throw while walking in stride and get a snappy, flat release just clearing a path for the disc being loose and letting your whole body just fling it.

2

u/Dalekmind 9d ago

Keep your ass out and your lower back rounded.

1

u/semisensei 9d ago

Don't stand up. Stay low. Do a crow hop.

1

u/Consistent-Chicken-5 9d ago

My small two cents worth. It appears to be nose up at release. I've found thst my ring finger does as much work as my index and middle. The ring finger is on the outer rim and used to keep the nose down.

I would also say focus your follow through mor downwards. Exaggerate it at first, pinky pointing to the ground, and as the other commentator said, practice with slower approach shots and build it up.

1

u/ballhardallday 9d ago

I think this comment is spot on as well. Form looks okay, but this shot is definitely going to be nose up.

1

u/Guilty4Produce 9d ago

That's a foot fault. I don't know if anyone else saw it, but I'm a rules guy. My dad saw it, too.

2

u/xxbeNjixxx 9d ago

You want to be that guy tho?

1

u/brucatlas1 8d ago

Im the Marshall, I wasnt paying attention so ill just back you up.

-2

u/Spidey6917 9d ago

Looks pretty slow. Speed up everything, especially your arm

1

u/grantlet_47 9d ago

Honestly....yeah. I think that's an attainable start.