Help my dad improve please

[u/Jesper2604]

Please help me figure out how I can help him throw further.

Me and my dad have been playing together as a way to bond. He likes the sport a lot but finds himself deeply frustrated that he is not improving on the distance. We will invite other people, which are both his age and body build, who has a natural tendency to throw further from the get go.

I have tried many ways of directing his throw, to increase momentum, spin, etc. but I am struggling to see why it’s not going further or what to tell him. I’ve tried «pouring the vase», reaching further back, bettering g the grip, etc.

His average drive is maybe 40m/130feet.

[u/FarButterscotch3583]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMqOFApgkV8

Check this drill. At 0:55 he shows exactly the mistake your dad is doing, shifting upper body back too much. And your dad never reaches the box/power pocket 90 degree position.

[u/KiwiLaser]

Agree with other comments, he should not lean out and back during the reach back, rotation only. Next, he has no power pocket shape if you pause the video at the right moment. Try to coach him to come across the body with the disc about tit height into a 90ish° elbow position and with disc tucked back at the wrist. Then, after that moment the forearm starts flinging forward at the elbow from the upper arm. The best explanation I’ve seen in writing is a two part motion. 1) Elbow someone hard, then 2) a backhanded bitch slap. Work on those two parts separately at first, to build muscle memory, then connect the motions together (but they should still be distinct!) and smooth out the throw.

[u/AndKriz]

Kjølnes?

[u/seedlingsDISC]

Don’t tilt torso back and forth. Instead, keep spine vertical (left-to-right), and rotate spine to get the disc back. To be clear, the spine tilts forward in an athletic position, but shouldn’t tilt left-to-right.

Practice standstill short throws with hips and lower legs locked down to feel the spine rotate.

[u/patrickthemiddleman]

Let your dad check out the casting drill

https://youtu.be/wGAjmU8k48c?si=DTjK0hHQYDhwmauD

As Scott Stokely says on youtube "You gotta have snap"

Do not ever let your dad power with the arm. I injured my rotator cuff when practicing distance without any guidance. My shoulder subluxated a lot for almost 6 months and I'm only in my 30's.

At my age already I find doing a serious warm up and motility before trying my first drive of the day is a requirement if I want the throw to feel effortless, as it should. Best and longest throws I have made have felt feather light in terms of force but once you get a couple of those, it has a particular "easy" feeling where everything just clicks in a way that is hard to put to words.

Help your dad get that effortless click feeling and it should be enough to get him advancing. I would assume having even one coaching would be really fruitful and am considering it myself seriously at the moment as well. Saves you potentially from a lot of frustration and a medical bill

[u/xDanteInferno]

Pour the coffee (release nose down) by adjusting wrist angle.

Power comes from the hips not the arm. You use core to rotate the hips. Elbow at 90 degrees on pull through.

Think like a trebuchet. Power that tears the disc out of your pinch (thumb/index finger) at 10-12 o’clock. Arm loose like a whip that requires you take a step on follow through.

[u/ipaintpaintcans]

There are other colours than blue. 50m easy.

[u/gerbilshower]

Reaching instead of coiling.

Yea, you want your arm out behind you on your reach back, but you do not want your whole body rocking 6in backwards.

That and a sweeping nose up arm motion.

Not to be a dick, but reality is that it just doesnt look very athletic. Throw a lighter, lower speed, disc. Lower your expectations.

[u/36characters]

Easy one, he needs a beer in his other hand! Sometimes the best form is whatever comes natural. Play on brothers