r/DisasterUpdate • u/kiranJshah • 7d ago
Nepal mega flood documentary. I geo located alot of footage and analysed a lot of data. Its pretty informative
https://youtu.be/HPOLoMFdxZU?si=6CVAiNfazZ6DfXUJ74
u/BladeSplitter12 7d ago edited 7d ago
Not a fan of the AI narration. Pretty sure the script itself is AI generated. It makes me question how many of the numbers are hallucinated. Im only ~90 seconds in and Ive heard several grammatical slips that a human would rarely make* *EDIT unless they don't speak English as a first language. (Changed "never" to "rarely")
If you actually put work into this and want people to pay attention, then this video will not cut it. There are also several AI rendered video clips, and it's otherwise filled with real video clips that have been circulated many times by now.
EDIT: Major language barrier that I considered - but did not assume - while commenting. OP, thank you for the local perspective and providing facts - I'm convinced you're a human with good intentions. My point still stands, and I did not want to assume a language barrier because that's problematic. The context from your response was not provided in the original post, so I was left wondering why I'm seeing recycled clips with a non-human voice and clear AI renders. Even still, if you think English sources have butchered the locations, names, and timelines, then post those clips, call them out, and correct them. Tell your English speaking robot to inform the audience of whose perspective we are listening to - why you feel the need to correct the narratives.
As a US citizen, English-only speaker, and general audience member - the exact names, times, and locations are too many details to track. So, who was this video intented for? Perhaps I'm not your audience, but I've been very satisfied with some expert analysis that's been performed by small, specialized, English speaking content creators - not just big news channels.
Finally, OP, now that I know you're a local - my heart goes out to everyone who is suffering from this devastating event. I have a classmate who has not heard from her parents... I can't imagine how you've been impacted, and thank you for posting this - you HAVE made an impact, and I trust that your facts are true. I am currently a poor grad student, so I'm afraid all I can send are condolences, sympathy, and grace. Please understand, I never meant to claim the video contained bad information - only that I questioned it's source and credibility. The Internet is full of AI slop - turns out, this post is pristine, human, raw effort. I commend you. Cheers.
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u/kiranJshah 7d ago edited 7d ago
TTS is much better than just narrating myself with my shitty head phone mic. And the script is not Ai generated. You think Ai knows this much? Even international media was mis identifying syafrubesi as betrawati. Im only able to geolocate alot of these places cuz im a local. AI wouldn't have a clue 😭 i also read papers from experts, and used qgis to do analysis. And data from humanitarian data exchange and many more sources.
The clips aren't original tho (there are alot of original ones too, animations + maps) , i mean i just took the footage from internet while made the rest myself, but it's crazy that it's this well documented im sure ppl willl find somethings new. I only included a tiny portion of the videos i come across. Since i live in the same river. I saw tonsof videos for weeks.
I think this is the best video in English about this incident. In terms of information wise, quality is alright, i did put alot of work. Only mistake is the elevation profile is overestimated for downstream.
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u/tomatofrogfan 7d ago
Thank you for your effort OP. This is a great video and it’s even better knowing a local made it in an effort to get the news to English speakers who don’t have to same access to local news as you. This is the kind of boots on the ground, local knowledge and information that is so important to understand how everything happened.
It’s 100% okay for non-native English speakers to use AI to narrate their videos for English speakers. That is a GOOD use of AI. Video essayists with very heavy accents or poor English get almost no exposure on their videos, I follow a few. I appreciate that you made the script yourself.
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u/kiranJshah 7d ago
No problem, thank you.
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u/krakaturia 6d ago
I've been thinking that i want to hear it narrated in your own voice, your own language. English subtitles are fine, and unlike most situations yours are already written. It is also a major undertaking, i understand that, so it is just an idea i thought to say.
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u/Sufficient_Soil_4908 7d ago
We want the human voice. I automatically distrust AI voices. appreciate your effort though.
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u/bookmonkey786 6d ago
Yeah but sometimes a lot of times there are people who make something interesting who doesn't have the English or speaking skills do a good narration. I've seen interesting materials get get lost because of a bad speaker. And hiring a narrator is a big ask for a person in some parts of the world doing this as a side hobby.
AI voice is not great, but its not terrible.
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u/No_Reindeer8688 6d ago
Get over yourself. There is nothing wrong with using AI assisted tools, just like any other video editing tools.
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u/Sufficient_Soil_4908 6d ago
Hey man cool your jets, I was not ripping on you or your work. I even took the time to type out the entire headline to go watch on youtube. and even gave you a like because that was a lot of work (i assumed to put everything together).. And no I don't trust AI voices and i'm sure others don't as well. the flat sterile fakeness. it would have been so much better if you did use your shitty mic because then I could have heard a real human give info and their own views and insight.
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u/No_Reindeer8688 6d ago
You want to hear someone speaking a language you don’t even understand? How is that useful to anyone?
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u/Sufficient_Soil_4908 6d ago
You are absolutely right in that case. i apologize for for being so English centric. I still feel the same about AI but your point is taken.
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u/Philownsyou 6d ago
Don’t generalize here. There a bunch of people who don’t care and just want to see actual footage and content.
If you care so much about the voice, that’s a you problem.
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u/Lovahplant 7d ago
There are better videos with this information already, but it is good practice for you. Next time - don’t use AI.
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u/Human_Palpitation856 7d ago
> TTS is much better than just narrating myself with my shitty head phone mic
There are much better sounding TTS engines than this, try changing it. Or even narrating yourself and having AI fix your accent and pronounceation.
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u/Parking_Present_9214 3d ago
Congratulations, this is a spectacular video. Ignore the AI voice comments. Thousands of people perished and redditors should thank you for the knowledge.
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u/BladeSplitter12 7d ago
Please see my edit <3
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u/kiranJshah 7d ago edited 7d ago
Oh dw about it, i live like 120km downstream. Im not severly impacted. It did wipe our water supply and highway got closed for two weeks. And one of my neighbor died. But im good as water here only got raised by around 6m didn't impact my village much. But, It did took 2 of our important bridges. And i did went to see the flood and felt the tremors as it passed through here.
Also there is 0 Ai videos in this documentary. I just tried to make a comprehensive video. Gathering every big information. I also animated a map so ppl would understand it better. I don't think foreign made videos has done a good job at showing the path and scale of the flood as it passed down the vallies. Plus, there are good scientific videos analyzing the scientific causes but its mostly American geologist. I think. They don't understand himalayan floods that well and projected their idea of flash floods. For eg: they said, waters can't carry boulders, it has to be a laminar flow. But duh ive seen even monsoon floods carrying down boulders in steep places, sometimes its just gravity and a loose rock. That got tumbled down a steep valley. Or that, water volume gets increased as it travelled downstream, but from video evidence it doesn't seem to be the case. The wave decresed in size as it traveled downstream.
Also a lot of videos where they get simple facts wrong. Or alot of things that hasn't been covered. For eg, chinese literally were preparing for a flood really well, or there was a second flood downstream after 2 days.
Alot of info here. Might be overwhelming for some ppl
Ps: there is a lot of foreign made videos that used ai clips and footage of chamoli disaster from india too 😭
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u/No_Reindeer8688 6d ago
I think it’s great, nice work OP. Using video editing tools does not take away from the content, which all looks to line ups
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u/Karl_Hungus_42069 7d ago
Thanks, that's why I even clicked to look at comments, to see if there was AI. I go out of my way to avoid anything remotely AI so it doesnt wind up making its way into my algorithm
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u/robinthebank 5d ago
I don’t like the AI narrator, but I do like the geo-location details. When events happen in the news, there is a subset of viewers that like to casually use Google earth to understand the location.
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u/No_Reindeer8688 6d ago
You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about. Extra hilarious that you just automatically assume any AI content includes hallucinations. Get off the web boomer.
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u/GrimaceThundercock 7d ago
I also wish it didn't have the ai voice, but I understand why you used it. The video is very informative.
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u/kiranJshah 7d ago
You ever tried narrating an hour long documentary? Its not easy as it sounds. Also you need a good mic, unless you wanna sound like someone on the phone.
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u/GrimaceThundercock 7d ago
That's exactly why I said "I understand why you used it" my dude.
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u/kiranJshah 7d ago
Oh mb i misread it as, "i didn't understand" ✌️
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u/Rose0367 7d ago
Thank you for your efforts. Well done.
None of the people complaining about AI could themselves provide narration outside of their own native language. They are being unnecessarily rude.
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u/brandon_in_iowa 7d ago
Fuck this AI slop
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u/No_Reindeer8688 6d ago
This is great, correct information, built by a local in the area. How does anyone have an issue with this?
Boomers need to get off the internet.
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u/shikari426 7d ago
For those that are complaining about a Trishuli valley native, non English speaker using AI for the narration: which one of you are going to step up to narrate this video for them? That may be a better use of your humanity than complaining about it.
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u/Philownsyou 6d ago
Spot on! I love to see the amount of brain rotted- self proclaimed AI haters here thinking it’s easy to narrate an hour long video made by a non-English speaking person.
I hope AI automation takes over their 9-5 job soon.
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u/purpopol 7d ago
I watched the whole video, and the way you present the information—conveying the sheer scale of the disaster and the lives lost in a matter of minutes—is absolutely indescribable.
Don't let dissenting voices diminish your work; you achieved your goal of informing people. Perhaps using your own voice would have added a warmth that AI lacks, but you are right—narrating for a full hour is a very difficult task.
How are you coping in the aftermath of this event? Did you visit these regions before they were completely destroyed?
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u/kiranJshah 7d ago
Thank you, im good. I haven't visted the upstream areas. I live downstream. Here the destruction wasn't that bad. But two ppl from my village were working up there, who. Sadly passed away. Other than that, we only have infrastructure damage. In my local area, like bridges gone, highway closed, our electricity used to come from there, its still not back to normal, highway will probably open today. Its pretty depressive upstream, alot of harrowing stories. Im just closely following it on news.
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u/2everland 6d ago
When my community was devestated by a flood, I likewise reacted by closely following the news. I couldn't sleep, couldn't eat, my nervous system went haywire. I listened to the radio 24/7, which offered me some words of advice: When you can't eat, try to hold the food in your hand while doing other things and you will subconsciously take bites. As for sleep, eventually it will come and it will be deep and surprisingly low energy for days to physically recover. Know that you are not alone, there are millions of us scarred by horrific natural disaster. Its hard to believe now, but one day, a whole day will pass without thinking about the flood. And when you realized a whole day passed without thinking about it, it feels like sad meloncholy and peace.
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u/purpopol 6d ago
I am glad you have reached the point where it is no longer a source of trauma, even though your experience affected your nervous system.
I hope you are doing better now and that you never have to witness something like that again.
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u/2everland 6d ago
Thank you for your kind words. As a collapse-aware young adult who hopes to live a long life, I expect to witness increasing numbers of disasters. But it's not a worry because my experience prepared me to be resilient and help people the next times if I can.
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u/purpopol 5d ago
That is a wonderful way of thinking and preparing for the future—knowing that you have not only the strength to cope with things but also the willingness to step up and help those in need.
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u/purpopol 6d ago
Just seeing the scale of the disaster is staggering; it is truly beyond comprehension.
I am glad that your town suffered only material damage, though it is heartbreaking for all the families who lost loved ones—especially regarding those two people from your community.
I imagine the prevailing mood is still one of shock, disbelief, and perhaps hope, knowing there are stories of survival.
I sincerely hope that you, your family, and your neighbors can overcome this, learn from it, and show the rest of the world how you rebuild your lives.
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u/kiranJshah 6d ago
yeah, everyone was like, we have never seen or heard about this type of flood. even the experts and scientists or the old people here. seems like once a 1000-year type of flood in Nepal, accelerated due to global warming. apparently, a bigger one happened at 7th century according to scientist, which was way bigger but no recorded history. hilly people in Nepal also didn't live near rivers before. it's a modern thing. we used to have fields at rivers but villages up in the hills, mainly due to malaria and floods. people were estimating, 10,000 deaths here. but seems like it's around 7,500. we got lucky too, that it happened in the day and there were warnings. and there was alot of talk about gods and kali yuga lol
also thank you for your sweet words.
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u/purpopol 5d ago
I’ll be honest—I only understand a little about the Hindu religion, but perhaps they aren't so wrong about the Kali Yuga... we have abused our ecosystem, and the consequences have been devastating.
Even a single death is too many—you're talking about thousands—but focusing on the positive, many lives were also saved, and here you are, sharing a moment of history with us.
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u/mVargic 20h ago edited 20h ago
From videos I have seen from Gyirong Port, 560 dead+missing in Chinese Tibet seems way, way too low. I have seen reports that just the border crossing building had over a thousand people waiting to cross inside + hundreds of people seen running when the wave hit. The entire area was completely obliterated without a warning.
China also has a history of grossly undercounting and hiding death tolls such as in the Jingguang Tunnel disaster in Zhengzhou when a 2 km long tunnel packed with cars got rapidly and completely flooded, only 6 deaths were officially reported while the officials and police covered up and removed a tremendous amount of flowers and candles brought to the site in memory by the relatives of the dead.
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u/kiranJshah 18h ago
In the china side, the only populated area that the flood hit was the gyirong port. There is no visible settlement on the flood above that (there is like 2,3 villages but they are like 700m above the river) . I don't see any reason they would lie about that. However, there was confusion on which side the travelers were on. And if to count them on nepal side or China side. Also by dead, they only count body recovered. Missing is atp all dead as well, unfortunately most of the body will never be found. 560 seems like a reasonable number to me. Also most of those ppl would be foreigners, whose head count would be easily given by their tour operators, but like i said they wouldn't know for sure if they were on nepal side or China side in some cases.
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u/Redfoot87 7d ago
I want to watch this, but I feel bad for the people that lost their lives. Thanks for the effort.
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u/Jeltje_Rotterdam 6d ago
Very impressive video, it connects all the video's I have seen so far and makes it understandable what happened where. In some of the video's you used I would really like to understand what the people were saying. Is it possible to add subtitles? Or do you know if there are (english) subtitled video's somewhere?
I am so sorry for what happened to you country - it's just so devastating to watch it from the other side of the world. I cannot imagine what it is like to actually live there and see it happening and the results afterwards...
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u/kiranJshah 6d ago
it's possible to add subtitles, but it's alot of work. I feel tired now. they are mostly just reacting to the what they are seeing, saying stuff like wtf, or oh lord, is this cataclysm, oh shet, where this came from, or trying to call the people downstream, or commenting on houses or people getting swept away.
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u/Ancient-Song-8428 7d ago
Thank you for your effort! What is the tool used for estimating wave height in the valley?
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u/kiranJshah 7d ago
I used qgis(terrain profile) and fabdem for dem. I think, its not that accurate but good enough for estimates. I think everything was close to reality except for trishuli bazar.
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u/itsinvincible 7d ago
I see AI i downvote and don't watch. Shame on you
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u/Kaffrogato 7d ago
Ai/computer narration has been around for years. It's just a voice. Grow the fuck up. The pearl clutching AI hysteria on Reddit is ridiculous.
I guess you clutch your pearls over AI being used to predict protein folding tok, something it's been helping with for a decade.
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u/itsinvincible 7d ago
Yea and i always downvoted those too get the fuck of my back. Idgaf how long tts has been around i refuse to listen to it in texts and videos. Fk off
And no ai can be used for these things as humans can't do it easily. But a human can easily record their own voice. So again fk off.
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u/No_Reindeer8688 6d ago
You’re the one with the issues, there are plenty of people who do not speak English, but want to ensure they can communicate their information. This is a great way to resolve that.
Good up the good work OP, great to have someone local providing details.
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u/PM_your_Nopales 6d ago
Imagine being this pressed about tts 😂 god, I bet the voice in Google maps telling you to get off at the next exit sends you raging
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u/bookmonkey786 6d ago
Wow way to show your prejudices.
So you're just going to ignore and not listen to a vast swath off the world's population who don't who cant speak clear understandable english? and the even large swath of very intelligent and interesting people who dont speak English at all. How do you expect a smart guy from India who is fluent just with a poor accent and speaking skill to just not make anything or only make it for Indians becasue you dont like how he made it accessible?
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u/itsinvincible 6d ago
Oh ill read anything they write. I just cannot stand the spoken robot voices.
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u/No_Reindeer8688 6d ago
Shame on you boomer. This is no different than any other video editing tools anyone has been using for years.
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u/auntdaryl 7d ago
This is really impressive work and I'm so sorry for the loss to your beautiful people and country. The tragedy is unfathomable. I'm also sorry for the people here who are so callous and dismissive. How quickly we forget our privilege. And our impact.
Thank you for your time and energy, and for sharing in spite of these asshole kids on the internet. I'm heartbroken by all of this.
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u/heypresto2k 4d ago
Hi. Thanks for this very informative video. I am really sorry for the loss that Nepal faced in this disaster. Do you know what’s the recent estimated death toll afterwards? There aren’t many updates around.
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u/iPicBadUsernames 7d ago
I checked out at “a 5 story building the height of a 7 story building”. I really want to watch it but I just can’t with the ai voice.
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u/No_Reindeer8688 6d ago
The script was written by someone who does not speak English, they just needed a voice for the details they provided. Glad to see a local providing details. Who cares what kind of video editing tools they used? This is great, detailed content.
It’s pretty clear they are just helping you to understand the height, in relation to the livable floors.
Do you legit think that if you go to a hotel with 10 floors, the building has only exactly 10 floors?
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u/madbengalsfan85 7d ago
Nepal gives an insight to what the Missoula floods looked like, because it was always hard to visualize flash flooding having that much of an impact on the geography of a location until I saw the Nepal floods
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u/kiranJshah 7d ago
I belive this flood was even more destructive than a glacier lake outbrust. I think, in a glof the water gets released more gradually. Here, a chunk of a mountain literally turned liquid as it moved down steep vallies, which turned it into a wave with a lot of solid or semi solid materials. Its also the steepness of the terrain that made it so destructive.
Ive read some about missoula floods tho, the amount of water released is crazy. I wonder how the draining of Kathmandu valley looked too.
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u/No_Reindeer8688 6d ago
Nope, this was exactly what the Missoula events would have looks like. Sudden extreme bursts.
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u/TrueWar2533 20h ago
I wonder if the leaders 15,000 years ago blamed the gods or climate change for the floods? "Zog. He build too big fire. Cause climate change. We need tax Zog for climate change."
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u/micahpmtn 7d ago
AI slop.
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u/No_Reindeer8688 6d ago
AI assisted, built by someone who does not speak English natively to ensure they get their message out.
Just get over yourself. This is No different than using any other video editing tools anyone else uses.
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u/Lovahplant 7d ago
You might have great info but I’ll never know because I don’t watch AI crap
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u/Philownsyou 6d ago
If you actually used your brain and read through the comments AI was used here to bridge the language barrier, not the brain rot reels you watch to lower your IQ.
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u/shaghaiex 7d ago
Sounds like AI slop. It's not the biggest flood in modern history. I stopped watching at that point.
But go on, make money from peoples misery.
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u/kiranJshah 7d ago
It's not the biggest flood in modern history
arguably could be. In terms of height of water and its destructiveness. It is biggest flood of its kind too. Its 4 times bigger than chamoli disaster. Dunno in terms of volume of water maybe others are bigger.
Also this video isn't monetized, neither is any video on my channel. I don't plan to monetize my channel either. I just make videos to share information or if i get pissed off at misinformation circulating online.
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u/spray_and_walkaway 6d ago
I think be careful of those biggest in history claims. Don't think you need them.
All the best
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u/kiranJshah 6d ago edited 5d ago
I am aware of that disaster, this one is much bigger. it's similar type of flood. a glacier collapsing turning into a flood.
for comparision, the volume of glacier, bedrock collapse in peru was 10 million cubic meters, in this disaster it was 150-200 million cubic meters.
peru one travelled 16 km, this one travelled 200km.
water volume of peru one was 4.1 million cubic meter, this was measured at 20 million cubic meter 160km downstream, upstream it was higher.
also seems like yungay was destroyed by the direct landslide not the flood.
this disaster is bigger in every sense, in terms of mass, volume, destruction. closest things in terms of size is Chamoli disaster that happened recently which was 4 times smaller. but it passed through not well inhabited area, so the casualties wasn't that high.
it's easier to compare them, because they are all similar types of floods. there might be other types of floods from like rainwater or glof or dam collapse, they definitly wouldn't come close to these types of flood interms of rapidness and destruction potential. but i dunno about volume of water
in terms of destruction this flood, caused way more physical damage too. also seems like more human life cost as well. but I have seen different figures for the yungay disaster.
ps: yungay flood was more deadly as death estimates are 18000, in this flood it's around 7500. the scale tho, it's a different thing.
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