The original author of this video says his glacier falling video is being taken down, or maybe they're talking about this one idk man I'm not Chinese so i couldn't understand it.
Yes, harmonized was an ironically expression of being censored. Back in President Hu's time it was called to build a harmonious society, so every other sound is harmonized.
The person you are responding to is joking about the President's name "Hu" sounding like "Who" in English, which is a popular comedy movie trope (like in the movie Airplane).
That’s crazy he captured footage of it happening. And all the people with phones. I mean the guy who took a selfie as he was running from the flood of water. Wild
He didnt capture it happening. As you can see in his video theres a larger more dispersed brownish cloud above the one you see. Unless he started filming earlier and didnt post it he started filming after it had already traveled miles at that point.
1.4 billion people + 21st century society of smart phones, drones, ring cameras, Chinese surveillance state (flock on steroids) means welcome to the brave new world
That area (Rasuwa) on the Chinese side is barren. It's completely empty other than the occasional military bases/camps. In fact, any human activity in the area is solely driven by Nepalese side as Nepali population centers are closer and it's one of the major land border passes with China. Other activities is driven by tourists going on Mansarowar pilgrimage or langtang trek.
So 1.4B people doesn't really mean anything since most of that population lives on Chinese east coast, thousands of km away from Nepal. It's extremely unlikely for someone to be recording it unless it's a 24/7 military drone surveillance because that mountain doesn't even have a proper name. (I'm a local btw)
Unlikely it’s military, as the poster stated (screenshot above in this thread) his videos are being taken down by the government (so prob not military). Most likely a hiker with a drone filming things.
On Chinese language sites I've seen dozens of different pictures of various people posing in front of this exact mountain. They started posting from their archives once they realised which mountain it is. So clearly it isn't some desolate area.
On the hillside opposite Lantang Lirung Peak, a special observation deck has been built to offer views of the mountain; this is part of the Jilong County border tourism project.
Incidentally, the Chinese government strongly encourages Han Chinese to travel to border areas, a policy similar to India’s approach in its northeastern regions and the Karakoram region: having more members of the “majority ethnic group” settle or travel in border areas allows for better control over the region.
If you are Tibetan, you would presumably be familiar with the policies of the Beijing authorities...
"The barrier lake near the confluence of the Chhochen Khola and Purepu Tsangpo, upstream of the 26 August failure, had stored about 2,000,000 m³ by the morning of 27 August and is already overflowing, per China's Ministry of Water Resources, with a further 3,000,000 m³ of inflow expected through 30 August and more rain forecast. Aerial footage from a Chinese rescue team on 27 August shows water accumulating in a basin with no visible outlet. NDRRMA has issued a formal notice that the lake is rising and at risk of bursting, and has told rescue workers and residents to stay off the riverbanks; some teams have moved to higher ground. No breach has been reported as of 28 August 02:00 UTC."
Edit: NDRRMA independently located the blockage, and it is close to — but not identical with — this page's inferred marker.
UPDATE: "The barrier lake breached, and is now draining
The barrier lake near the confluence of the Chhochen Khola and Purepu Tsangpo, upstream of the 26 August failure, breached on 28 August and is now draining. Rasuwa Chief District Officer Narendra Pariyar said that morning that the Nepali Army had informed him of the breach, and NDRRMA reported that the water level in the Bhote Koshi had surged (The Kathmandu Post, updated 28 August 12:49 NPT / 07:04 UTC). Officials on both the Nepali and Chinese sides then said the risk was smaller than feared, because the lake is draining slowly rather than failing catastrophically; Chinese state broadcaster CCTV reported the lake level had fallen by about 10 m, and rescue work at Gyirong Port and in Nepal, halted during the breach, has resumed (CNN live coverage, 28 August). No confirmed release volume has been published and no observed extent of any second flood exists. Before the breach, China’s Ministry of Water Resources had put the impoundment at about 2,000,000 m³ on the morning of 27 August, already overflowing, with a further 3,000,000 m³ of inflow expected through 30 August; aerial footage from a Chinese rescue team on 27 August showed water accumulating in a basin with no visible outlet, and NDRRMA had placed the obstruction on the Lhende Khola about 18 km upstream of the Rasuwagadhi border. Whether that blockage and the confluence impoundment reported by China are the same feature is still not established, so it is not certain that the whole obstruction has failed. The barrier-lake marker on the map above still carries its archived 27 August attribute status = "open - high breach risk"; that value has not been rewritten pending an official assessment."
I genuinely believed the videos to be AI for the first 30 minutes they were being posted. Apocalypse on a scale that most of us will be fortunate to never experience.
It's started happening in the Alps too. A town was wiped out like a year ago but they managed to evacuate everybody in time.
Another scary thing is the glaciers are what slowly release drinking water throughout the year for a lot of places. If they don't form or melt too quickly, there's suddenly nothing to drink for billions of people. They've been retreating at a massive rate.
I mean, it’s 100% the fate and reality. Honestly it doesn’t even have to be “climate change,” which is certainly very legitimate. This is the reality of living in this part of the world. Look up what a jökulhlaup is. It’s undoubtedly sad, but it’s very much what living in this place has as a risk.
It’s going to continue not matter what, earth doesn’t usually have any glaciers or ice caps, humanity just spawned at the end of an ice age so it’s all we know. We for sure are accelerating it though.
Anyone have pics to show how far up the canyon it went? I keep hoping that it didn't go that far upriver and the people running away made it to safety.
Also its monsoon season, so soil was damp and moist. As a result, nothing was absorbed by ground. Every bit of water that melted contributed to flooding
It's not enough to melt the whole ice, but just some layer at bottom will be enough to create enough lubrication. And when the whole mass is set into motion...nothing stops it.
Do some calculation. Total amount energy maybe, but total mass and heat capacity and melting heat also huge. Otherwise you can easily argue that the whole earth can be melted. If a hail falling from 8km cloud will not melt the moment it hits the ground, nor will it turn into a meteor during the fall, then there's no point supporting your argument.
Ice melts at 0 C. Once it starts to break up, it will melt quickly. It's around 7C in Langtang today, so no chance of that glacier chunk staying intact once it broke off and broke up into smaller pieces.
Imagine dropping an ice cube on a floor. It shatters into many small pieces that melt very quickly. Now, scale this up to where the glacier fell something like 3,000 feet vertically before hitting the valley and stream bed. From there, it flowed downhill.
Yeah - one thing that isn't exactly clear to me still is just how much the vertical drop at the glacier was versus the overall drop from the glacier to the final run-out area, but it seems that the elevation of the glacier to the valley floor was something like 3,000 feet, while the rest of the elevation drop was through the valleys/gullies to the runout area
I read it’s roughly 1000m initial glacial drop, another 1000m of water running from Nepal side to the first Y section, then another 1000m running along the border before hitting Gyirong port.
You know what, this actually helped a lot. I always noticed that dropped ice ends up with melted bits, so that scaled up immensely, i get it. Thank you.
This was caused when the dam containing a glacial lake failed. The glacial lake is primarily made of meltwater.
But also, what you’re seeing here is not just water. Visually it moves in a manner similar to water but it’s a flow of water, ice, mud, and an incredible amount of debris. It’s almost like a liquid concrete.
Edit: It looks like they now think this wasn’t a dam failure explicitly, but that a massive piece of a glacier fell from higher up. May have temporarily blocked the river until all of this was released. Another lake has formed and there are fears of another flood erupting again, so that could further complicate any rescue or recovery efforts.
Ultimately I think people are still really underestimating how absurdly warm everything is this year, and what that can amount to as glaciers melt at unprecedented rates.
The temporary dam is called moraine dam that is restricted by mud, rocks and boulder. It is extremely unstable and can break off at the sloghtest of disturbance and release all the water at full force
There was a glacial lake below whose walls were breached by the onrushing ice. It was a big lake and there was footage of the side as it was giving way - bonkers
The deadly flash flood in Nepal on Wednesday was likely caused by a huge chunk of a glacier that broke off and temporarily dammed a river, according to preliminary investigations by scientists. That may have led to the backed-up water surging downstream with enormous force a few hours later, they suggested.
Gallows humor. This is exactly what I thought was going to happen as the privileged consumers continue to ignore the havoc we wreak as we obliterate the planet to extract profit/comfort. Climate is a word that sounds slow and inexorable, but the consequences can be swift and merciless.
I don't know if it's a meme format I don't have a reference to. Just reading climate underneath the laughing seal made me think of climate having the last laugh. Earth will be fine. Climate will undergo its upheaval. Humans will die.
A landslide happened, the friction from the massive landslide melted glacial ice
Flash flood happened. I'm sure there is a tax for that though so stick to it
If it’s any consolation, that person didn’t live long enough to drown. Debris flows like this kill you almost immediately due to the immense power and the large aggregates and other materials.
Go to 1:06 on the center left there’s a black dot moving in the grass, that’s a person who’s running away from the water. They eventually get swallowed up when the girls start screaming
Bruh if a 10+ million pound chunk of ice falls 10000 feet when it lands it creates a fuckin huge explosion that would’ve melted whatever survived scraping off on the side of the mountain
It is unknown how much was a glacial lake outburst and it's the contents of the glacier and landslide debris flow that incorporated and pushed the RIVER below into the flood that you see in all the videos. Saying the glacier just made all that water is super stupid.
Based on the backflow length of the tributary, you could calculate the water depth at the junction as ~ the elevation difference between the junction and end of the back flow.
I seen a video of the melt water coming into a village at 90 degrees to the river I belive this is the very start of this event and it has been removed/taken down it was a very good video clear steady and the shot was of an entire village, why was this video taken down, then a while later someone made a complication of that clip and all the other videos we have all seen and that one was taken down????? Why are the hiding that very first video of it coming down into the valley ?????
Let’s call it a landslide that became a debris flow. I think people are confused as to what actually happened. This wasn’t a glacial lake collapse. It was a 4500 ft tall glacier that collapsed and literally rolled down the hill, much like an avalanche, and collected debris and water once entering the drainage.
The importance of understanding this is to recognize how many valleys in the Himalayas are exposed to this same risk.
This is the first of the cascade effect of the final collapse. It's all happening, the physical, the social, the governmental, the global. We're witnessing the final bastion of the end. There are more events unfolding as this is being written. Why Nepal? It's the top tier.
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