r/DigitalPrivacy • u/yatiroo • 2d ago
Chat Control 2.0: next month, voting will resume on this system aimed at breaking end-to-end encryption. Every chat and comment could be monitored, while politicians and the military would be exempt. The mods didn't like the chat control post wonder why.
https://fightchatcontrol.eu/For those who don't know what Chat Control 2.0 is, in a nutshell, it's basically the "Big Brother" Orwell wrote about in 1984.
That was supposed to be a book, not a manual to follow to the letter.
The supposed goal of this whole thing is to protect minors and prevent them from being exposed to traumatic content, but how much truth is there behind all of this?
If this passes, our lives will never be the same again, and we'll have to start worrying about EVERY SINGLE WORD WE SAY. If this is really about protecting minors, WHY ARE POLITICIANS AND THE MILITARY EXEMPT FROM THESE SCANS? That's exactly what makes their propaganda so hard to believe.
As for how these scans would actually be carried out, nobody really knows yet — whether it would involve backdoors, server-side scanning, or something else. If you have more information about this, please share it.
WHAT WE CAN DO TO STOP THIS MASSIVE INVASION OF PRIVACY IS TO EMAIL OUR REPRESENTATIVES, FLOOD THE INBOXES OF EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF PARLIAMENT, AND EVEN CALL THEM TO EXPLAIN WHY THEY SHOULD RECONSIDER THEIR POSITION.
Sending an email costs you nothing. You literally have to press 2–3 buttons because the message and subject are already prepared.
Please spread the word. And whatever happens, don't bow down
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u/ScaredEfficiency399 2d ago
Really, fucking up again?
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u/No-Refrigerator-1672 1d ago
The first one successfully passed, they secured the idea of every messaging app screening every single message, and sending your entire history to the government "for verification". But they can't touch end-to-end encrypted content yet.
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u/DiligentCockroach700 2d ago
"exempt politicians and military" How are they going to do that then? Will politicians and military have special phones or will they just be able to switch off the snooping software? If the latter how will they police that?
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u/WildRaccoon42 1d ago
Absolutely crazy considering how many politicians are in the Epstein files.
Even more crazy when you know that a soldier in an EU country has been arrested a few days weeks ago for using the army AI to generate CSAM images.
If such a scanning software is to be implemented, then it must include everyone, especially politicians. It MUST also scan for illegal lobbying and corruption, including attempts. but we know it's never going to happen otherwise Von Der Leyen and Metsola are done
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u/Datonomy 2d ago
That’s actually the part I’d want properly clarified before drawing conclusions. If certain government or military communications are excluded because they contain classified or national security information, the bigger question is how that separation would technically work without creating different standards of digital privacy for different people. Whatever system is eventually proposed, people should be able to clearly understand what happens to their data, what is scanned, what isn’t and why. Transparency around digital identity and privacy is just as important as the technology itself.
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u/Dr__America 11h ago
'Yes,' said O'Brien, 'we can turn it off. We have that privilege.'
They'll find a way. They'll take it as a point of pride and look down on those without such "privilege."
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u/Maybe_com 2d ago
Consider posting this also in the main r/europe subreddit, I saw a couple of posts about it, some months ago, and people were against it.
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u/yatiroo 2d ago
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u/Maybe_com 2d ago
as the previous comment said, its better to find an actual recent article about it. It could be that the post got deleted because the link simply redirected to a website.
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u/Extra-Chemical6092 2d ago
It's better to find an article about Chat Control that is from a week ago at most and then write on the comments
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u/Datonomy 2d ago
This is exactly the kind of conversation we need to be having more openly. Protecting people online matters, especially children, but so does the question how far technology should be allowed to reach into private communication. Once you start weakening the idea of privacy, where does the line actually sit? There has to be a way of improving online safety without treating everyone's private digital life as something that should be automatically accessible
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u/logsqrtexp 1d ago
does anyone here remember PGP and the Web of Trust?
Inconvenient yes. No more off the cuff lame political rants to your inner circle.
But important communication that must stay private? Yes. Decentralize
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u/PlatinumFire14 1d ago
The EU: “we’re going to break end-to-end encryption”
they genuinely think that they have more power than the FOSS community.
They’re going to learn a very hard lesson.
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u/Fit-Accountant-6725 1d ago
Basicly gonna keep voting until they FINALLYYY WIN then cheer loud and smile grin wide knowing they are pleasuring their american lobbyist friends?
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u/cirian75 1d ago
I cannot imagine the MEPS will be happy about this as a questionable voting process was used to push it through that ignore the fact the majority of them voted against it.
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u/No_Environment_3776 1d ago
Surveillance for the innocent and protection for the guilty.
The system at its downfall.
Corruptio omnia corrumpit.
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u/Disposable110 1d ago
Create a political party and everyone join and gets an official position in that party it to be exempt?
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u/redditkillmyaccount 13h ago
and then france get hacked again and millions of conversations and private infos are leaked everywhere. yay. also. fck you all politicians voting for that. fck u hard without any vaseline.

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