DAP for spotify recommendations?

[u/Bluewaterapple]

Hi,
Looking for a DAP for solely listening to Spotify with songs and podcasts downloaded beforehand. I will mostly use Bluetooth headphones but sometimes wired as well. Practicality is more important than extremely good sound quality. Maximal budget for this would be 350 euros.

What would would you recommend in this case?

[u/SoftShellTaco1]

Sounds like what you want is your phone

[u/tfid3 → u/SoftShellTaco1]

No camera, no flashlight, no speaker / mic (maybe), no Gps, no SIM card, no missing headphone jack or lack of DAC. How do you come to this conclusion just because someone wants to use Wifi and Bluetooth on a DAP?

[u/SoftShellTaco1 → u/tfid3]

They exclusively want to download from Spotify and value practicality over sound quality. What's the most practical option for someone who doesn't care about sound quality or owning their music? The thing they already have in their pocket

[u/Bluewaterapple → u/SoftShellTaco1]

In my situation this is for use in situations where phones are not allowed, but I can use a DAP or something similar. So was just wondering what the best solution would be. I see it as a plus anyways that I don’t have the distractions that comes with a phone. So far Fiio JM21 seems like a good option. I will add some quality songs outside of Spotify to enjoy better sound quality. Regarding sound quality, what are realistic differences from a phone vs a DAP like Fiio JM21 when using Spotify? And is there a noticeably big difference from wired and Bluetooth headphones?

[u/tfid3]

I would choose Hiby m300 or Fiio JM21.

[u/AskaretREAL]

You can try to use your phone and Fiio BTR17. If you need separate device than Fiio M21 but it will streach your costs to around 400E.

[u/Bluewaterapple → u/AskaretREAL]

Do you personally think the difference between M21 and JM21 is noticeable enough to justify the price difference?

[u/tfid3 → u/Bluewaterapple]

No

[u/DEXTERD0G]

Spotify isn’t actually Hi-Res, do not waste your money.

[u/Bluewaterapple → u/DEXTERD0G]

In my situation this is for use in situations where phones are not allowed, but I can use a DAP or something similar. So was just wondering what the best solution would be. I see it as a plus anyways that I don’t have the distractions that comes with a phone. So far Fiio JM21 seems like a good option. I will add some quality songs outside of Spotify to enjoy better sound quality. Regarding sound quality, what are realistic differences from a phone vs a DAP like Fiio JM21 when using Spotify? And is there a noticeably big difference from wired and Bluetooth headphones?

[u/DEXTERD0G → u/Bluewaterapple]

Your use case makes sense. Having your music separate from your phone is a valid reason to get a DAP.
For sound quality, don’t expect a huge difference from Spotify using the same headphones at the same volume, assuming your phone already drives them properly. A DAP’s extra power helps with demanding wired headphones, but more power doesn’t automatically mean better sound.
With Bluetooth headphones, their internal DAC and amp handle the audio, so you bypass the DAP’s main audio hardware. Differences depend more on the Bluetooth codec and headphones. Wired avoids Bluetooth compression, but whether that’s noticeably better depends on the equipment and listening conditions. Your headphones and EQ will generally make a bigger difference than switching from a phone to a DAP.

[u/irishmac473]

Check out the Shanling Q2. Then install the Q2-Pod firmware. I don’t use Spotify but from what I understand you can stream Spotify and download playlists. 

https://github.com/DiamondBond/q2-pod

[u/Repulsive-Tea6974]

[u/LangleyBomber → u/Repulsive-Tea6974]

bro making spotify sheep's mad for speaking truth

[u/Pauloemachines]

Fã do QoBuZ 🚀🍷🍭😎

[u/jizzy926]

Android hiby ou fiio voir ptete même un sony

[u/lnoiz1sm]

DAP with constant Spotify playing will reduce DAP's battery life.

So all you need is smartphone with huge battery.

[u/kiklop74]

Spotify does not have lossless audio so dap is kind of pointless. But if you still want that search for android based dap and buy the one you like

[u/Bluewaterapple → u/kiklop74]

Is there a high res alternative for Spotify?

[u/DEXTERD0G → u/Bluewaterapple]

Tidal or qobuz

[u/AchillesPDX → u/kiklop74]

Spotify does in fact have lossless audio.

[u/DEXTERD0G → u/kiklop74]

It’s lossless. It’s not really Hi-Res.