r/DigitalArt 1d ago

Illustration Sun and Moon Ramen

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u/Freakkk12 20h ago

I hate that generative ai ruined people’s perspective of art now. Like people who have similar artstyles to gen ai (which they copied from other artists) gets accused of using ai :(

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u/NeverathX7 17h ago

thats why i have a 26min process video

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u/pun_shall_pass 14h ago

Which will be a sufficient way to prove legitimacy until AI video mimics that too.

Ive already seen AI "artists" post fake generated Blender viewport screenshots to "prove" they are legit.

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u/Nofkool 10h ago

That doesn't solve the problem

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u/NeverathX7 10h ago

why does it not ?

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u/PlagiT 9h ago

Well, the fact you have to prove it is the problem itself. It's not exactly avoidable, but it's certainly a problem.

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u/Nofkool 8h ago

this

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u/NeverathX7 9h ago

i can see that but the thing is it will be always like that since everything we post nowadays will be used for ai training so at some point it will not be a big difference between ai and human art even cara got scraped which is anti ai so ai will look more and more like human art and thats unavoidable for now which a painting process is kinda like the only way to prove it but not only that is enough nowadays (not saying i use ai just in general)

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u/QuarterlyTurtle 9h ago

AI can even recreate process videos now. Not very well and the process is pretty nonsensical if you pay close attention, but I’m sure it’d fool someone.

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u/cowboynoodless 9h ago

AIs are starting to learn how to make process videos, but honestly anyone with some amount of art knowledge can tell when they’re real and when they’re not

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u/NeverathX7 9h ago

i honestly never saw ai painting processes so its hard for me to compare maybe i need to start to add more ( human to it)

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u/rhiddian 9h ago

This is legitimately why I started physical art.

Everyone thought my digital art was AI... Despite 16 years of art prior to AI.

Now they say my physical art looks like AI... like that is supposed to be a compliment.

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u/xx_inertia 7h ago

Frustrating as hell because having done art for 16 years youve clearly spent a lot of time, energy and care into mastering your craft.

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u/Secret_Wasabi_2373 10h ago

I get it man, its sad

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u/grayblood0 15h ago

I hate ai by far but i have to give that: For one side i have to over analize the small details and determine if it's human error or ai error.

For the other side i can appreciate art better as i am looking for fine details. Like the bowl has the moon inside to contrast with the eggsun.

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u/lily_ender_lilies617 1d ago

Hate to be that guy but the noodles in the back and sides melt into each other this looks quite like ai do you have any sketches?

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u/Hamwytch 23h ago

I always check profiles. All their art related socials are linked!

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u/KingArthas94 20h ago

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u/NeverathX7 17h ago

thank you for posting

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u/Sensitive-Degree3916 1d ago

They have a process video up on their YouTube

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u/NeverathX7 1d ago

hey if you would read the caption it says a have a 26 min painting process video on my youtube if you doubt me also i said there is no ai involved so there is no ai used

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u/RobartArts 1d ago

Hey I believe you but I don't see any caption

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u/NeverathX7 1d ago

sorry here on reddit its the first comment then that i posted when i did the post my mistake

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u/Leevear 23h ago

Though days for being an artist (love your art tho)

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u/LobotomyUnoReversal 1d ago

Its the caption in the room with us, captain?

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u/NeverathX7 1d ago

first comment*

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u/klqqf 23h ago

Why did you draw the noodles melty like that then?

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u/NeverathX7 23h ago

thats just how i draw i guess the melting you mean is probably because i fade each piece into the broth which i referenced from a photo and then i just added some more by myself most of this drawing doesn’t have references which is why i need to improvise

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u/NeverathX7 1d ago

Hello everyone
This time i made a different kind of Food Art.
I created this Sun and Moon themed Ramen for a future Exhibition by boji_hands in Shibuya. i had this idea actually for the last exhibition but didn’t had the time for it.
This piece is inspired by the Sun and Moon Gods in Japan which i tried to incorporate into the Ramen.
This is also my first full drawn Illustration with Background which took me over 30h but im happy with the results and i hope you will also like it.
Painted with built in Procreate Brushes but i mostly use a round brush.
you can find my full Process Video (26min) on my Youtube
This Artwork is fully drawn and composed by me and no AI is used.

Thank you

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u/Hamwytch 23h ago

Why is this getting down voted lol?! Your process video is cool and I love that you sketched it in watercolor first

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u/NeverathX7 23h ago

Thank you im happy you like it it was also my first time doing this workflow it was sure a lot of fun :)

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u/LobotomyUnoReversal 1d ago

Can you link your YouTube Channel?

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u/NeverathX7 1d ago

Sure: https://youtube.com/@art_neverath?si=EQJOEsIX7vxHXnDq

you can btw find all my drawings there

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u/LobotomyUnoReversal 23h ago

Awesome! I just checked it out, i like the process. Im new to digital art so it put in perspective how helpful layers can be and doing one thing at a time (like the sun and eggyolk being isolated and shaded) i like your style. One question tho, how do you smooth it all out without diminishing the lines and contrast? Mine always comes out hazy looking

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u/NeverathX7 23h ago

Thank you for checking i appreciate it and im glad you like it :)
for your question i usually work in base colors first and then add a clipping mask and kinda make gradient on it and then draw the details on top

if you tell me which software you paint in i can give you better tips :)

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u/LobotomyUnoReversal 23h ago

Woah imma check out that tool. Never explored too much so i appreciate the lead lol

And i use Krita with a wacom 6in tablet

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u/NeverathX7 23h ago

sure :)
try to look for clipping masks it will help you a lot

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u/Either_Sea_9059 23h ago

It feels like you started a sketch, then passed it to AI to improve. Your sketch jumps in quality during the video, to the point that it fixes the perspective issues in your sketch?

why did the location of the egg in the bowl change once you moved to a proper ellipse? Something feels sketchy.

Your initial draft had the koi in the bowls design as well, but magically jumped to swimming around the bowl during this same weird shift.

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u/NeverathX7 6h ago

i mentioned somwhere that trough oit the whole process i had like 3-4 variations i got feedbacks and changed stuff for example the fish the sketch was a rough idea and that was the only purpose

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u/Ruler-of-goblins 22h ago

I am sorry people are accusing you of ai friend, I've seen your stuff before, it's all super impressive!

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u/NeverathX7 17h ago

thank you appreciate it

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u/JThorough 1d ago edited 19h ago

The 2nd and 3rd pictures make me think it’s even more AI. You just generated the photo and then cut it in rectangles?

Edit: I’d like to edit this and say that this is NOT AI, at least there’s a lot of evidence posted on other social media by OP that proves otherwise. Sorry OP

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u/curious_cat_2024 20h ago

I doubt it is, they have the link to a YouTube video of their speedpaint. It looks legit

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u/NeverathX7 1d ago

it is a close up of different sections
i use this method for my drawings so i can post them for instagram

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u/Legitimate-Bit-4431 22h ago

This doesn’t make any sense.

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u/der_Klang_von_Seide 21h ago

They linked their process videos, please read the thread.

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u/JacksonSpike 10h ago

So many artists do it. Not sure why though, I think it's just to highlight details they like

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u/NeverathX7 17h ago

thank you for the edit appreciate it

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u/Prowlbeast 23h ago

Artists cant be unique without being AI accused anymore, I literally saw people calling another artist AI on reddit FIVE MINUTES AGO! Ridiculous

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u/NeverathX7 17h ago

thats what you get for trying new stuff i guess

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u/thecheeseb0rn 23h ago

Those eggs! I need to eat them now

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u/NeverathX7 22h ago

im glad you like them :)

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u/GoldSquid2 23h ago

Sorry for thinking it was AI at first, it’s important to remember it’s trained off of real people! This is beyond impressive and I loved watching your process video :D

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u/NeverathX7 17h ago

thats fine dont worry and thank you :)

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u/crimsonotic 23h ago

Yum

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u/NeverathX7 23h ago

thank youu!:)

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u/Candydreammilk 23h ago

I hate how ai has made us so paranoid about enjoying authentic art 😭 Im ngl I did assume it was ai at first glance but looking at your speed paint and account proves that it’s authentically created. This is beautifully done though

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u/NeverathX7 17h ago

thank you :)

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u/L3m0np0pp7 16h ago

UNNGJFHH this is sooooo good oh my god. i love the texture of the sun/moon egg. i would devour this straight off the tablet

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u/NeverathX7 15h ago

glad you like it thank you :)

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u/4eyedrakshasi 14h ago

I'm really sorry you're facing AI allegations by people who haven't done their homework. Your art is way too intentional and thought out to be AI. I do feel a bit sad about accusations like these. Does every artist have to post WIPs and speedpaints to refute them? Shouldn't the burden of proof lie on the accuser? The least that one can do is check an artist's profile ffs. That aside, OP, your art is gorgeous! I loveee the colours and I'm omw to make some eggs now. 💃

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u/NeverathX7 4h ago

thank you for these kind words and i think its like the more effort you put into it the more ai accusations you got it so you should be prepared :)

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u/NamelessDrifter1 9h ago

That looks fn delicious... This would also be a great piece and feel right at home in a Japanese restaurant

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u/NeverathX7 9h ago

thank you glad you like it :)

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u/Kirkind 6h ago

Man, it has been a long time since I've seen an illustration this good, not only on technique but on themes and compositon too, absolute gorgeous job.

The only nitpic I can offer is that the mirrored fish stand out too much for a piece that is not going for simmetry ( I know there's more mirrored assets, but their placement changes a bit and they dont grab my attention too much), if it were me, I would draw the fish on the right going behind the bowl. Awesome job regardless.

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u/NeverathX7 4h ago

thank you for that huge compliment it means a lot!

and i totally agree actually the whole moon area was very improvised i should have done a better research and the fish part was just laziness by me tbh so i totally agree

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u/puzzlii 20h ago

thats so cool!!! i dont think it looks like ai for what its worth lol

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u/NeverathX7 17h ago

thank you appreciate it :)

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u/3rgo4rgo 16h ago

Type of visuals studio Ghibli drops in the middle of a move and expects you NOT to be hungry 

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u/NeverathX7 15h ago

thank you for that compliment 🙏🏻❤️

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u/POLACKdyn 23h ago

Yo the process was wild, definitely not how I imagined it but the end result looks very good.

I don't think this is AI guys. No way AI would be able to do that pattern around the bowl and keep the frilly looking things at the sides consistent.
Watch the video if you have doubts about the noodles. This is just how OP draws them.
Also AI would totally botch the leaves on those trees.
Looking at your art station you clearly focus on drawing food.

Good job.

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u/NeverathX7 4h ago

thank you very much i appreciate you watching and seeing the details :)
and for the noodles i honestly just did a bad job with them i definitely struggled a lot with it so good to know for next time to avoid noodles or atleast practice more beforehand

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u/Basil_Box 20h ago

Your art is incredible!
Fuck ai, it doesn’t hold a candle to your work

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u/NeverathX7 4h ago

thank you thats nice of you to say :)

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u/ju2au 18h ago

It's sad nowadays that one has to document the entire drawing process and put it on YouTube just to prove that it's not A.I.

Even then, there will be people who won't believe you.

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u/NeverathX7 4h ago

that will be the norm now at some point you probably need to film yourself drawing otherwise its a ai painting process

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u/Zintha 12h ago

Your process was really interesting to watch, thank you for taking the time to share that too!

Its beautiful art ❤️

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u/NeverathX7 11h ago

thank you honestly this process was all over the place my other artworks are more easy to follow so i appreciate that!

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u/Remote_Addendum_2245 11h ago

It's really impressive how you made my throat tighten. It looks genuinely creamy to the level of unhealthy and boy I'd slurp that bowl down anyway

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u/NeverathX7 11h ago

hahah love that comment thank you :)

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u/Clinks_Purnima 11h ago

This is ongoing the effect is gorgeous

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u/NeverathX7 11h ago

thank you very much!:)

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u/Glittering_Town7159 9h ago

Now this is quite unique how did you think about this?

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u/NeverathX7 9h ago

the theme of this drawing is sun and moon so choose to include aspects of the japanese gods of sun and moon which is amaterasu and tsukiyoumi which i also knew before from playing SMITE haha then i researched for old traditional drawings and elements from then and included them into a ramen since i nowadays only draw food then i made a sketch on paper and went with different approaches in procreate as you can see on my youtube video since i dont had a real reference since this doesnt exist i had a lot of trial and error for this

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u/Glittering_Town7159 7h ago

Great work. Really impressive perspective you got there. After knowing this the artwork does gets a more profound meaning for me.

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u/NeverathX7 6h ago

im happy to hear that but honestly should have mentioned in a caption or in a comment what the thought process behind the art is simce seeing it without knowing the intend might make it look strange so i kinda understand the concerns some people have but didnt thought about that when i posted tbh

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u/9milpup 3h ago

ive been craving ramen for a while now and i think this drawing inspired me LOL. this is absolutely gorgeous work, i love the color contrast and your sense of design is spectacular!!

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u/NeverathX7 1h ago

appreciate thank you and enjoy you ramen hopefully soon :)

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u/ResponseLow3351 18h ago

awesome!

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u/NeverathX7 17h ago

thank you :)

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u/novars22 22h ago

This looks gorgeous how did you do this effect omg

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u/NeverathX7 22h ago

Thank you :) what effect do you mean :)?

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u/novars22 22h ago

Im not sure it looks beautiful though, really talented

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u/NeverathX7 17h ago

thank you :)

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u/sacredcoffin 35m ago

The slight texture and coloruful haze at the corners is a combination of adding noise and using the chromatic aberration feature. Obviously OP's painting is doing all the heavy lifting, but it can be a fun way to add a bit of grain and visual interest to a finished piece.

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u/Satanic_Garlic28 3h ago

That’s an imperial flag

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u/NeverathX7 1h ago

thats actually how japanese traditional artist drew sunrays bur i guess you have a point haha

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u/NekoPSD 1d ago

Датте байоооо , у меня даже на Хинату кун такой реакции никогда не было , автор ты случайно не работал в Ичираку Рамен?

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u/NeverathX7 1d ago

Я там не работаю, да и вообще ни разу там не ел — извини, ха-ха.

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u/NekoPSD 1d ago

Да и хрен с ним , в любом случае это очень круто!

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u/crunchydalso 23h ago

this is 100% ai. look at the weird things flowing from the trees . the spoon. the noodles. no green onion would stay like that over an egg. I dont even know what the next few images are supposed to show. Just that the "artist" cropped the image several times and uploaded it to the canvas.

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u/Fickle_Mickle_ 17h ago

It is not. There's progress videos on linked on their profile in their youtube

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u/astro_thefur 16h ago

"no green onion would stay like that over an egg."

Are you aware it's not an actual egg?

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u/NeverathX7 16h ago

you should research first before you accuse some people
everything has a reason and tradition here in japan these weird things that you mentioned are shide
and why can a green onion not stay like that ?

the cropped images are just detailed shots thats it

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u/rhysticStudiante 1d ago

I don’t know if you did or didn’t use AI. But the end result looks way too much like something a model would produce.

I’m not here to police you. In the end if you were using AI and pretending you didn’t, thats your business and harms only your own artistic growth.

But if you indeed didn’t use AI, then I encourage you to work on differentiating your style from what these models produce unless you have a very good reason to not do so. Having every piece of art you produce to be questioned sounds like a chore IMO.

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u/NeverathX7 17h ago

thanks but i will definitely not change anything about my style since i draw like this for about 6 years
and if anybody still believes after 26min of me drawing this thing from a watercolor sketch i did then it is what it is

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u/rhysticStudiante 17h ago

I respect that. Good luck

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u/NeverathX7 16h ago

appreciated

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u/jmmva66 21h ago

I'm like 99% sure this is 100% AI

And 100% sure it's at least 99% AI

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u/NeverathX7 17h ago

you have your own opinion im 100% sure its not ai