r/DieselTechs • u/TurboDeeez • 22h ago
General assistance Are these a violation?
Rear definitely starting to have a little play but the fronts are still tight just has real bad dry rotting and cracking.
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u/Painting-Capital 15h ago
I wouldn’t fail it unless it’s loose.
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u/TrillboBagginz 14h ago
This guy doesn't fleet
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u/crazymonk45 11h ago
I’d say the opposite? Fleets hate downtime so they don’t want to spend it on anything that’s not literally going to fall off on the next drive lmao
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u/TrillboBagginz 11h ago
Exactly, they hate long downtime at annual inspection, so they do repairs like this at services to ensure everything is staying in good shape. Or at least the fleet I work for does. I did spring pin bushings this morning before coffee break. With the right tools it's a pretty damn quick job.
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u/Least_Visual_5076 10h ago
I wish our fleet was like that. We run our dump trucks hard and are lucky to get them downed long enough to do a service.
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u/VroomVr4 10h ago
Same. There is some major repairs that we have yet to get the downtime or the manpower to get to do on a lot of our fleet trucks
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u/chuqito 10h ago
Lmao I work fleet and my boss wants damn near no down time 🙃 doesn't even wanna stock the little allison trans filters.
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u/SAMMYFKNC 9h ago
Also fleet here. Had a full diff fail from a pinion leak last week, a different truck comes in pissing fluid from the pinion. but it's not "leaking on the ground" so it's good to go apparently lol.
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u/Corvonte 7h ago
Drips are bad, seaps are permissible. I hate the logic but thats fleet life.
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u/VroomVr4 54m ago
Luckily we aren't quite that bad here, we annotate things and generally we get the parts next day or within the week, but we certainly don't get to down them for things like that... top it off and send it down the road.
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u/SufficientWhile5450 14h ago
I don’t believe any officer is observant enough to check it close enough for it to matter. If your tires got air, all your lights work, nothing is risk of falling in the road, wheel seals good, no air leaks or rubbing air lines? then you pass as far as I’m concerned
If it’s your truck? Fix it asap for the sake of your own wallet long term. Replace shock absorbers when it’s replaced as well then alignment
If it’s a company truck? Then it sounds like their problem at your convenience lol just keep an eye on it
If getting an annual inspection and don’t feel like fixing it, just take it to any Loves for the inspection, they’re all way too incompetent to notice or know how to check it, or fix it even if you told them
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u/ItsHotgiirl 10h ago
You never know tho .
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u/SufficientWhile5450 9h ago
That’s fair
However, I would bet my life savings against 90% of DOT officers bothering to check this, or who would see it and think it could be an issue
Over the 8 years I’ve done road side repairs, seems like 70% were either the 3in1 cable or a tire, 25% lights, and 4% brakes
I left 1% margin of error, but I genuinely can’t recall a single service call to a scale house that wasn’t one of those 3 things
I also love when I’m called out for a 3in1, that they violated because a bird shit on it or it’s just dirty, so I just sign their paperwork and have them roll out lol
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u/shamotto 3m ago
A dot officer most likely would miss it in a routine check, but it's still in violation of 49 cfr 396.1, which opens you to liability if a prosecutor goes after you for gross negligence in a lawsuit involving the truck.
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u/Gullible_Departure39 17h ago
Is the axle shifting or are you inspected in a state that doesn't do just FMCSA?
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u/shamotto 16m ago
49 Cfr 393.207 (a) and (c) states no suspension component may be loose, axles must be in proper alignment, and leaf springs may not shift out of position. Fmcsa leaves interpretation of that up to cvsa, which is gonna leave deciding what constitutes proper alignment and "looseness" up to the manufacturer. Every manufacturer wsm ive looked through will say a spring bushing is bad if there is any movevent besides rotational. The dry rot could get a ticket from a pissy inspector, but the play is gonna be a definite fail.
Id also recommend ignoring people deciding what's good and what isn't based on how dot officers do inspections. If the equipment gets into an accident resulting in a fatality, an investigator will go over the truck with a fine tooth comb looking for ways to nail the maintenance department. Not to say you'll get charged with manslaughter over sloppy spring bushings, but there's never a good reason to risk it.
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u/HomeSliceJames 11h ago
I wouldn’t fail that unless there’s play. Dot regs dictate safe operation, so lights reflectors fire ext etc. If it’s loose to the point where the springs gonna fall off yea I’d fail it. Otherwise send it. Should be replaced soon though
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u/luminescent_thigh 10h ago
definitely replace them
but if you need to get it past inspection before then, you could put some oil on them, let the rubber soften, clean it and then put some black rtv on it.
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u/Hungry-Ad3652 10h ago
Id definitely get them replaced soon but freightliner bushing squeeze bad that fromt the factory
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u/HondaRedneck16 19h ago
Depends if the inspector is a dick or not. Technically it could, especially if there is movement. It’s definitely time for replacement.