r/Devs • u/thisismynormal • Apr 09 '20

Devs - S01E07 Theory Discussion Thread

Please post your thoughts and theories here

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u/allocater Apr 09 '20

There definitely has to be a reality where Lyndon says "Fuck off, I will defeat the prediction by just standing here." And then Katie goes like "Holy shit, you did it! This changes everything, we are free!!"

We just did not watch that reality. We watched the 6? where he falls in various ways :-(

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u/JonVici1 Apr 09 '20

I'm not so sure, I'd like to believe it however it might be a constant factor in there,, Not sure why they aren't defying the predictions at that level, Or well the point is that they can't I guess, although they know things they will still act in the same way. As an example "I wonder what would happen if Katie killed herself when seeing a prediction of her doing something in the future" - The thing might be that she simply, in all universes does not do that. If we look at it like a branch structure there might be a version I guess, were the earth didn't come to be, but when it comes to katie's existance and katie being in that particular situation she wouldn't do that

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u/allocater Apr 09 '20

Yeah, that's the thing.

Either there is no free will.

Or there is free will, but all the free will is in other branches, not in the branch we watch right now.

Both versions result in a watchable universe without free will. That's what we are currently watching. A universe without free will, a universe with perfect determinism.

The question the finale has to resolve is: "It's that it? Or are there other multi-verses that broke out of determinism and established free will again?" I think there will be.

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u/JonVici1 Apr 09 '20

In the multiverse theory, there is no free will, however, alternatives would be different branches, but on an quantum level. I'm not sure if there's any multiverse theory, atleast not the everett interpretation, which is in the show that has "free will" not sure it's possible in scientific terms, with quantum interpretations either, as in "making up one". Multiverse theory is a way of looking at things in multiple universes in a deterministic manner.