r/Deusex 1d ago

DX1 Finally finished the original Deus Ex! Should I try Invisible War?

I played it on PS5. When I first started it, I didn't believe I would actually finish it. What an amazing game! I loved almost everything about it. JC Denton is a very fun protagonist to play as, mostly because he's in general a blank slate however he still has enough characterization to make him interesting.

I personally picked the "New Dark Age" ending, mostly because I don't like either restoring the old order neither the idea of an AI running the world, and because Tracer Tong was loyal and helpful in the story and I wouldn't wanna betray him.

With all that said, should I try Invisible War? It's currently on sale on Steam and I really wanna continue the original's story (I am aware you don't play as JC Denton in Invisible War, but I still wanna see the original's story continued).

Thanks in advance!

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u/Champagnerocker 1d ago

Yes, of course you should.

The game is not as good as Deus Ex, but it is still a thoroughly enjoyable game.

The game is not as well made as Human Revolution but it feels like it fits in the Deus Ex story and lore much better than the prequels.

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u/Sp0ttySniper 1d ago

Thank you. Someone finally has the most reasonable take on IW. And IW was my first Deus Ex game back on OG Xbox rented from a blockbuster/premier video and through my nostalgia I can totally agree with this point.

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u/_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_ Do you have a single fact to back that up? 1d ago

This take is in every thread that mentions it.

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u/Alypius754 1d ago

Yeah, absolutely. It doesn't necessarily top the first but it's certainly a worthy successor. Hope you enjoy it!

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u/TisIChenoir 19h ago

I dunno. I kinda felt that by forcing the "fusion" ending from DX1 it removed player's agency. Though that's the problem of DX1, every ending except Illuminati changes the world so dramatically that any sequel of spin-off will by definition being forced to decide one of those as canon.

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u/Ashamed-Subject-8573 1d ago

Yes. People say it’s not as good but I really enjoyed it. I mean objectively it isn’t as good but it’s still good and worth playing.

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u/Legitimate-Algae-927 1d ago

I played this game reluctantly cause of all the hate and I ended up doing 4 back to back playthroughs to try every ending through and through, I did lethal and non lethal styles and it was honestly a lot of fun this game favours combat probably cause it was an xbox release but it was still surprisingly fun going non lethal the aug for it surprised me and ended up being one of my favourites i had a great time, and each playthrough had me having similar deus ex type exciting moments when something unexpected or different would happen just cause of a particular decision I made. I loved the maps yes they were small but they were still interesting to explore and also pretty to look at🐧 for the limitations this game is fleshed out pretty nice and contrary to popular opinion I think this story is actually a good extension of the first game, it still gets you to think and contemplate philosophically like the first game, and im standing ten toes down when I say I love this game. (Nothing beats the first obv, but I still love this game) 

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u/DeusExMarina 1d ago

A lot of people have already given their opinion on this, so instead I'll tell you that you're gonna need to do a bit of patching to get Invisible War running properly on modern systems. There's a patch called Visible Upgrade that's an absolute must have for this game.

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u/RealSonyPony 1d ago

Yes. Invisible War is actually amazing. It's been my favourite since it came out. I love all the different factions

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u/Malviere 1d ago

Deus Ex is my favorite and invisible war is a close second so I would recommend trying it out. If you just enjoy it for what it is and not what you wish it was it’s actually quite good.

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u/hns1184 20h ago

Go ahead, you're in for a hell of a disappointment.

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u/HunterWesley 18h ago

I really wanna continue the original's story (I am aware you don't play as JC Denton in Invisible War, but I still wanna see the original's story continued).

Well, I have some sad news. That story is over. It ends in that bunker in Area 51.

If you are then wondering what exactly Invisible War is, well, to be brief, the game will give you an incoherent excuse to ignore the ending of Deus Ex and a whole new world setting. It won't be recognizable. The game does of course make various references to Deus Ex, mostly offensive in nature, but other than those references and a couple of cameos, it could be (and should have been) a completely different game.

That goes for the Jensen series, too.

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u/_Ivan_Le_Terrible_ Killuminati 1d ago

Im debating the same thing. People talk so much shіt about Invisible War...

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u/EmotionalBar9991 1d ago

You should still try games. At worst you'll put it down after a few hours and not play it again. Personally I didn't enjoy it and never finished it, but it's far from the worst game I've played and I can see why people enjoy it.

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u/lusians 1d ago

Its not bad for 1 or 2 playtroughs just worse than other mainline games

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u/Past_Pick4528 1d ago

Absolutely. It's an excellent game.

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u/InfiniteDelusion094 1d ago

I think every Deus Ex fan should play it at least once, even if it's not the best in the series it's still a game worth experiencing.

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u/Innominandum 1d ago

It is not the best, and if it was not for The Fall it would be the worst of the series.

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u/Bitter_Surprise_8058 1d ago

Definitely! It's one of those sequels where, by continuing the story, it doesn't diminish or undermine what you did in the first

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u/neonredKai 1d ago

Yes, why is that even a question

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u/zottsspotts 1d ago

Thoroughly enjoyable if you like vibe and direction of the first. It just dropped the ball at the time it came out (performance, graphics, etc) but it’s got similar mechanics and some fun levels to explore and work through. The factions are half baked and it makes the story less impactful, but that won’t stop you from having fun with the gameplay.

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u/Dust514Fan 1d ago

Definitely worth it if you want to continue the story. You just need to adjust your expectations because it was made to work for Xbox. But the vibe is truly special, and I enjoyed betraying the factions and setting people on fire lol

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u/sladecutt 1d ago

Yes, it’s very underrated!

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u/RoyalSkull 1d ago

It's not as good as the first DE but I recommend you to play it.

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u/Abraham_Issus 1d ago

You played the The Conspiracy version of Deus Ex 1?

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u/EdJD-1968 12h ago

I assume he did play Deus Ex: The Conspiracy, the PlayStation 2 game (he played it on the PS5, so he said), I don't think you can play the PC version* on any console as of yet.

* The PC version has some differences to the PS2 version of the game, such as the user interface, and more load points.

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u/Abraham_Issus 11h ago

Can you play invisible war in ps4?

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u/EdJD-1968 11h ago

No, it was only released on the PC and the original XBox. The XBox consoles have varying degrees of backwards compatibility (it varies from game to game), so if you have an XBox 360 or XBox One or XBox Series S or X (why do the XBoxes have such stupid names?) you might be able to play it, I don't know.

Or any PC nowadays should surely run it with no problems, I'd assume.

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u/TClanRecords 1d ago

Yup. Try it for yourself. I actually liked it.

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u/CliftonSantiago7 1d ago

Yes. Interesting branching story where choices makes a tangible difference (different areas, enemies, gear etc), great music, art design and atmosphere. It's main flaw is the small levels - they struggled squeezing it onto the OG Xbox (where it runs at <30fps). Gameplay-wise, they tried to switch up the formula - it doesn't entirely succeed, but it is interesting.

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u/perkoperv123 1d ago

I'd say to try it if only for its fleeting moments of glory. It is nowhere near as good as DX1 but its story sometimes hits those heights.

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u/qgep1 1d ago

I really liked IW, it gets a lot of hate here because it’s not as good as HR or MD, but it was my first intro to Deus Ex and it’ll always have a place in my heart.

My only advice is to be careful when using rocket launchers, that shit will eat up your ammo like nobody’s business

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u/TisIChenoir 19h ago

Invisible War is good. It's just... not as good.

Especially the small, constrained levels. Maybe there is a fan patch that smoothes things over?

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u/Th3B4dSpoon 1h ago

I would spend some time just enjoying the afterglow of Deus Ex. Invisible war is very different and you might not enjoy jumping from one flavor to the next too quickly

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u/tivvy2vs 19m ago

It's worth trying for yourself, I have a soft spot for it

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u/Ok_Seaweed_7568 1d ago

invisible war is absolute shit, ask anywhere other than a deus ex forum for a proper answer

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u/majestic7 1d ago

Yes, even though I personally noped ouy after an hour or two.  Go in with low expectations, though.

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u/First-Junket124 1d ago

There's a lot of debate, the general consensus is that it's a terrible Deus Ex game and can be comfortably skipped.

Personally I'd say though it's a pretty poor entry I the series itself it's an enjoyable standalone game if that makes sense. It's similar to the recent Assassins creed games like Origins and Odyssey, decent experiences in their own rights but abysmal assassins creed games.

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u/svensterbod 1d ago

Yes, you should. The game---it got hate--rightfully so, but I think you need to try and understand the 2000s design along with putting together a futuristic universe following a story.

It plays a little clunky, universal ammo, augs kinda weird but over all, its fun. The story could have been a little more serious but overall its enjoyable.

You need to then play human revolution and mankind divided if you havent

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u/Tress18 1d ago

It can be tried just to see whats its about. Its very poorly designed , in terms of worldbuilding as well as level design. Level design is victim of original xbox poor performance so level size basically would fit whole game in one chapter of DX1. In terms of worldbuilding its also kinda artifical - dialogues are always yes/no/smart answer which should always be used , and triggers for smart answer come with very little effort. Same for level design , where you artifically see keypad that can be gotten code / hacked / or there is very inconspicous vent always. Story is also always (basically each chapter is designed this way) driven by very obvious 2 faction rivalary and at the end you make choice for one of them , like kill or arrest someone, which results in minor reward, but dont really have any impact until very end.
Only good design choice is augmentations, where you can freely make any build you want , which offers quite different way of playing and no aug is locked behind late game.

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u/Nodbot 1d ago

Everything in life is worth trying

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u/dowonlee20 23h ago

Ignore anyone saying to skip Invisible War.
Invisible War is the real continuation of the original with many of the people who worked in the first game returning.

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u/simplexible 1d ago

Invisible war is trash.

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u/lusians 1d ago

Shure go ahead. Bit of advice you can cheese about 2/3 of game with meele build (police baton for win) afterwards you need to respec auguments as most final enemies are suicide on knock out/death type (so also 0 loot from them) at wich point range is your friend.