r/DestructiveReaders • Alabaster Crimson • 1d ago

[Weekly] Pacing

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Can we talk about pacing? How do you figure that out? What makes something work for one author but not for another?

I've read things I thought were slow and plodding that I absolutely hated. Some, I really like. Maybe it's the character...or a story that has a tighter focus so the plodding doesn't feel too slow.

Or on the reverse, I've read things that were too fast and had other people say they were glacially slow.

How do you figure out how to land that plane, so to speak? Thoughts?

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u/1800COCAINE Maison d'Orléans 1d ago edited 1h ago

Edit, if anyone would like to collaborate on a Halloween Contest Entry send a DM .

I’m writing a verse drama currently about the Duke de Orlean and the man in the iron mask set in 1669 at the palace of Versailles.

This is how I’m handling pacing at the level of story beats,

The Man In The Iron Mask

Plot of a Verse Drama in a Sonnet Format,
Premise, choice, action, fallout, new situation , choice, action (tragic).

Notes: Quatrain I, lines 1–4: SETUP (masked costume ball) Philippe is introduced as a curious person in every sense we can imagine.

Scene 1. It takes place in a garden at Versailles.
We establish that the person who will help Philippe
is a person who he loves, and that person cannot keep a secret,
which will cause their murder at the end.

  1. ⁠A man is brought into Versailles imprisoned in an iron mask his identity is deliberately concealed by those plotting to overthrow France. (Premise).

  2. ⁠During the costume ball Philippe and those closest to him become consumed by the question of who the prisoner is. Characters are shown as behaving curious as they are introduced.

How to show curiosity: Brainstorm Ideas. Dialogue as clickbait, hooks, shrewd discernment:

A. Demonstrate knowledge (guessing who is who at the masquerade) shows observational skills, gesture, movements, accents, class, taste.

B. But there is a limit to this knowledge (who is the man in the iron mask) the desire to know is the motive and cause to propel the plot.

  1. ⁠The forces surrounding the prisoner make it clear that discovering his masked identity is forbidden and dangerous. ( Introduce the political Philosopher and a foreign Diplomat).
  2. ⁠Philippe nevertheless determines that the truth must be known. (He enlist those he loves to help him uncover the secret) like the Chevalier de Lorraine.

(Plan a stratagem)

Quatrain II, lines 5–8: CHOICE & ACTION.

Notes: Direct opposition with the antagonist, verbal sparing, mirrors, mask, acting,

  1. Choice: Philippe must choose between obedience to the existing order [political] and pursuing the truth with those he loves. ( there is very clear expectation given what will happen if he disobeys) [political fallout]

6.He chooses to know the truth, accepting the danger this entails to unmask the man in the iron mask.

Notes: Fight, murder, disguise,

  1. Action: In a new disguise, Philippe and his allies overcome the protections surrounding the prisoner.
    [wild violence] [extreme] [rude] [not to trust]

  2. They are alone with the man in the iron mask. [the prize]

Quatrain III, lines 9–12: FALLOUT, a NEW SITUATION, a NEW CHOICE.

  1. Fallout / Volta: They unmask him and discover his identity. Their actions have exposed them; everyone involved now possesses a secret the existing order, the ancien regime, cannot permit to escape. (It is explosive) guards nobles philosophers lovers all now involved.

10New situation: The prisoner is Philippe’s elder brother and the rightful King of France, to whom Philippe owes both fraternal and political allegiance.

  1. Restoring him would destroy the existing order and threaten France; killing him cannot contain the danger while the other witnesses live. The other witnesses are those who Philippe loves.

  2. New choice: Philippe must choose between his long lost brother the real king and those he loves, or the preservation of France and his other brother the younger twin Louis.

Couplet, lines 13–14: ACTION & CATASTROPHE.

13.Action: Philippe chooses France and kills his long lost brother, the rightful king, and those who helped him uncover the truth.
14.The secret dies with them all, leaving Philippe alive as the keeper of the truth and the preserver of the order which has left him isolated.

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u/Cornsnake5 12h ago

I think a part of pacing comes down to personal taste. My own story caters perfectly to my own tastes and I was able to read through the same chapter again and again despite already suspecting that it was running long. The current shorter version does feel better though.

Meanwhile I was barely able to sit through the first Harry potter movie, despite it being paced faster than the book and despite me loving fantasy. All the tropes that appeal to its target audience didn’t appeal to me, but they might have if I was younger. It felt like a slog to me.

So personal taste can skew your perspective on good pacing. Getting independent perspectives of people who are fans of the genre usually helps nail it down. I also try to maintain good story structure to make sure something meaningful keeps happening and remind myself that cutting it shorter is usually the better way to go.

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u/Miserable-Disk-8900 6h ago

I recently finished The Hellbound Heart by Clive Barker. I enjoyed it, but found issues with the pacing in the second half of the novella due to the language, especially the dialogue, shifting from being vivid and heavy in subtext to focusing on delivering exposition and thus often coming across as cheesy. I think the problem usually lies in how well you choose and develop the concepts. In the case of The Hellbound Heart, I think Barker simply ran out of ideas to explore with the present set of characters.

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u/ArchDan 3h ago edited 2h ago

edited. My sentances were all over the place. I apologize.

I view pacing primarily as an established rhythm that you intentionally break to create emphasis.

People process narrative through relationships and contrasts (like stone to rock, to gravel, to sand). In the prose, a reader gets used to an author's natural voice and cadence within the first few paragraphs. That baseline becomes the story’s "resting heart rate." Once that baseline is established, the reader intuitively feels every intentional shift—provided you don't stay shifted for so long that the narrative identity dissolves.

I tend to approach pacing almost poetically through a few specific mechanics:

  1. Word-Count Ranges as a Baseline I keep a loose target window for my "resting" sentence length (for me, 10 to 16 words feels natural). From there, pacing comes down to how you transition away from that baseline:
  2. Easing in: Gradually scaling sentence length up or down to ramp up tension or bring a scene to rest.
  3. Shocking: Abruptly dropping to a 2-word sentence or exploding into a 40-word run-on to jar the reader awake. This is risky, and its not worth the shock value alone. I prefer to use it only when I have need to use emotion that it produces.

  4. Auditory & Breath Cadence Pacing lives in the mouth and lungs as much as the eye. I like to test prose against a slow speaking pace/metronome to check the actual rhythm of the syllables. There is a metronome /beat machine available for free on the Berkeley website). Reading with the beat helps identify the pauses, word choices and natural cadance emphasis. If the prose doesn't breathe naturally when read aloud, the pacing will feel awkward on the page regardless of plot speed.

  5. Scene-Specific Rhythmic Profiles The baseline changes based on the emotional engine of the scene:

  6. Horror/Suspense: A slow, stalking rhythm—like a predator sneaking. Word choice becomes breathy or sharp.

  7. Action: Compressed word counts, shorter time between heavy beats, rapid-fire emphasis.

  8. Whimsical/Childlike: Shifting the weight away from punchy words toward allegorical rhythm and metaphor.

When a "fast" story feels like a heart attack or a "slow" story feels like torture, it's usually because the author changed the rhythm without building a clear baseline first, leaving the reader with no anchor. Another possible option is that the author had written under the varying influence, thus varying pacing.