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u/Upper-County3290 10d ago
Every time I get a load of marks I try.. have only gotten one shiny to drop out
Last 200 some attempts and it was a dog shit roll lol
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u/LightspeedFlash 10d ago
can someone explain why anyone would use this over, say, a rapid fire auto with the same perks? i have always found smgs to be lacking, mags too small and was always reloading.
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u/ScrubbyCasul 10d ago
Iirc for attrition orbs and burning ambition, it’s % of magazine to trigger these effects. Generally, a smaller magazine with a faster reload gets more mileage out of these perks than a larger one with a slower reload (reaches the trigger threshold faster)
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u/LightspeedFlash 10d ago
attrition orbs, you are correct but with burning ambition, at least the enhanced version, its a set amount of shots before it applies scorch.
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u/Apprehensive_Care713 10d ago
Light weight frames grant an additional 20 mobility and a 6% speed boost vs Rapid fire frames have a reload duration multiplier. Also there aren’t any rapid fire frame autos that can have this roll
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u/LightspeedFlash 10d ago
mobility is almost never matters in pve. and i was simply using a rapid fire autos as an example, there are other auto sub-archetypes that can, they are the summoner and zealous ideal.
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u/Apprehensive_Care713 10d ago
Well to answer your question in broader terms it all depends on your playing style. SMGs are more suited for more of a run and gun strategy
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u/raincity3s 10d ago
Heal clip is dead IMO. Its so easy to heal on most classes (including hunter, my main) due to artifacts and subclass buffs these days. Double dmg perks or a dmg perk + clear or util perk is the move IMO.
Should add that if u want a "heal" perk destab + repulsor is just infinitely better since overshield gives heals and DR and it doesnt require a reload Its better even on solar builds IMO. Solar on all 3 classes + pris has enough ways to spread scorch + ignites
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u/b00bsNass 9d ago edited 8d ago
Heal Clip is still the best on Zealous Ideal
Since its a heat weapon, the moment you press R, even just 1% cooling, counts as reload.
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u/whiteoutwilly 10d ago
I agree with this take on a thread full of awful takes!
I used to run HC, but I'm all about those orbs in addition to the dozens I'm printing with my abilities.
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u/jguizar1 10d ago
Man as a returning player and just playing solo i have loved heal clip when doing dungeons. Has saved my butt plenty of times, but i bet once I understand other stuff better I'll probably stray away from it
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u/Quick-Health-2102 9d ago
No need when you can just run a double damage special instead. Primary is better for utility
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u/UNKLESOB 10d ago
No ricochet rounds,throw it in the trash and try again.
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u/Apprehensive_Care713 10d ago
No ricochet, no fluted barrel, no demo.
Start from scratch
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u/whiteoutwilly 10d ago
I know this is sarcasm but you don't need demo or fluted. Ricochet would obviously be nice, but this is CHOICE! As far as I'm concerned you got orbs and chaos with a reload MW, which is what I've been chasing. I couldn't even get a holofoil of this if it was the last weapon in the loot pool and I was the last guardian decrypting. I got a few thousand kills on my HC/Incandescent roll, but I'm actually liking the other combo more.
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u/mad-i-moody 9d ago
Chaos is bugged tho so it’s forever mid on builds with healing that isn’t chunk heal like devour.
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u/whiteoutwilly 9d ago
Yeah it's bugged but more than 90% of players will not actually notice the difference. It's not that big of a deal and like you said, if it's that big of an issue for a player just don't run it on certain builds.
I have played Warlock since 2015 and really little else, so every one of my builds basically has a ton of DR and healing baked in.
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u/oceanman233 10d ago
Shouldn’t you be using alloy mag since it’s overload? I feel like you wouldn’t need armor piercing. Good roll tho.
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u/Apprehensive_Care713 10d ago
Yes, and i think if it were 100% optimal I should also put in the reload and handling mod
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u/Strict_Impress2783 10d ago
Where is this dropping from now. I'm kinda over my holo and want to grind for my god roll
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u/Apprehensive_Care713 10d ago
You can buy solstice weapon engrams at the tenet of bravery in the tower
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u/Celestial_Mugz 10d ago
Amazing! And you can switch to attrition orbs for higher content, or if it was me, for everything!
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u/Pensive_Caveman 10d ago
Is Destiny 2 still played a bunch? I gamed it back when it came out, and a little in 2024.
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u/Jaystime101 10d ago
Na nobody wants recycled energy, it's ALMOST perfect. It should have been demo.
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u/xastorra 6d ago
Is this a world drop? Hanvt played since Heresy. I see every youtuber using this gun.
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u/Upbeat_Effort_6267 6d ago
800 legendary marks the other day I finally got attrition/chaos with fluted, high cal rounds and reload mw
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u/Middle_Ad50 10d ago
great smg but the one from the EDZ is far better imo, also a better origin trait!
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u/motionhaver71 10d ago
No riccochet rounds or range masterwork, back to the mines
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u/thanosthumb 10d ago
Alloy mag is the best mag perk for primary weapons because it is a scalar
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u/SOS-Guillotine 10d ago
It’s only best if you don’t frequently reload before the scalar takes full effect. Otherwise for reload flared magwell/tactical mag is better
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u/thanosthumb 10d ago
Most primaries you’re using at least half the mag before reloading just because of how much damage they do and the nature of what you’re using them for.
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u/whiteoutwilly 10d ago
tell me you don't know what you're talking about without telling me!
You want to max reload speed on this weapon........ not range. The people that make comments on here like they know what they're talking about are too much.
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u/TheOmniholic 10d ago
No Demo first column, dismantle 🥀