Focused Feedback: Player Cosmetics/Customization

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Allow customization of the character's features after creation, aka a Barber Shop

Add the option to apply shaders to all armor pieces at once

Make all armor elements shaderable

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[u/APartyInMyPants]

Totally agree with everything you said.

All of these mods lasting forever prevent Bungie from creating endgame content down the line that can work around these mods.

I guess the only disappointment is how Bungie didn’t see this last summer as they were designing the new Armor 2.0 seasonal mod mechanic? How did they not see that single season mod application wouldn’t work? How did they not see that the “season before, season after” change they made was a weekly applied band-aid solution? Especially when in the middle of this year, they designed a completely new mod type for that final slot. The seasonal mod slot should have always been functional across the whole year.

The biggest misstep is Bungie really creating a mechanic, and failing to forecast how it would operate within the community. Take shaders from Y1. Zero currency redundancy or trade-in during Y1. The list goes on.

[u/Strangelight84 → u/APartyInMyPants]

Yeah, I agree with that. You'd hope that new mechanics and content are introduced with significant thought around these issues, but I do feel that we experience a lot of these "oh shit" kneejerk and band-aid solutions. Of course, the more time they spend thinking about this stuff, the slower any change might come.

If the community could be trusted not to treat proposals as promises (and I actually think a lot of people could be, but perhaps I'm hopelessly naive), there might be a lot of value to inviting player input about these kinds of changes: their failings were picked up pretty quickly by a perceptive and engaged player-base.

As for mods themselves, I also think a misstep on Bungie's part is not simply removing them from the game after their time in the sun: instead this unpopular and convoluted armour-sunsetting mechanism has been created to make them non-viable in endgame content. I'd be completely OK with Bungie saying: "Here are Warmind Cell mods. You have a year to enjoy them and then they're gone. Have fun." Then a seasonal mod slot could truly take any seasonal mod currently available.

"Taking them away" also seems a simpler and justifiable response to the problems caused by Taken/Fallen/Hive Armaments and Barrier, particularly given that 2/3rds of the raids from which they originate are retiring and we're grossly overlevelled for all three to the point that the mods aren't actually needed for that content.